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Easily the weakest link of SPECTRE, and second only to John Logan as the weakest link on Skyfall.
Controversial!
SF wasn't too bad at all but I think you meant to say 'a breath of stale air' regarding SP.
I was sad when Barry departed the fold a couple of times, but looking back, Bill Conti's score for FYEO added whole new dimensions to the 007 repertoire. The use of big band horns, synths and electric guitars added a new dimension to Bond that had been hitherto unexplored, except in the famous "James Bond Theme".
I would welcome a composer that could contribute to the writing of the title song in the way that Barry did, so that the main theme could be used as a leitmotif throughout the movie. this, I think, helps to give the movie a stronger identity and reinforces various themes that run throughout, depending on how the leitmotif is arranged.
I think it suggests that the score was NOT mailed in. If it had been, it would have sucked...and people in the know would have seen it that way.
From what I have heard, I don't like the SP score as much...but then again, I didn't like the SF score (as a whole) at first, either.
Newman's music isn't for everyone. I love it, actually. He hasn't done a score yet that didn't find thoroughly engaging...even the themes for Revolutionary Road and Little Children, films about suburban hell, are damn good. I think I like Newman for Bond because the music is personally atmospheric. It's not grandiose.
It's somewhat like Desplat's music for Zero Dark Thirty. I mean, here's a war film, where you think the music will be big and booming, and it's not. This piece is quite stirring:
That piece is quite a bit more orchestral than what Newman came up with (and I don't mind Newman either although I think Desplat would do a better job personally) and more suitable for us fans who long for more of a Barry sound.
It breathes and is suspenseful with a melody that's quite memorable. Takes me back.....listening to it again. There are definite elements of Barry's Zulu soundtrack in Desplat's work for Zero Dark Thirty.
Pro David Arnold is that he is English and at titlesong in the score or don't mind it to co-writing title song or look to earlier scores. Personaly i whas finished with his to much re-use of Twine bank scene/boat chase. For Narnia 3 he also re-using Twine music.
But with QOS it whas more refreshing then last two with DAD and CR. Exept boat chase/techno parts. I hoped with David Arnold not making music for Bond he get other big projects and then return to Bond. He also not comingback for Independence Day 2 and 3.
Best parts of music so far from Spectre are in teaser trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_1cR6DQo7s and trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTDaET-JweU who sound more David Arnold to me.
My first view Skyfall i give music 8/10 in movie and outside the movie 7/10. Later on i change this in 7/10 and 6/10. David Arnold is more like OHMSS, Octopussy and TLD John Barry and Bill Conti's FYEO, whyle newman is like Norman/Barry DR No or FRWL/TMWTGG John Barry or boring John Barry from Moonraker or Goldfinger/Thunderball.
As for Newman, he seems terribly disinterested and brings nothing outside of some decent action cues. Give Arnold one more go and if he fails, then bring in new blood.
I did. The music for the pts was quite good but I still prefer African rundown and time to get out.
Newman is obviously his guy on scores and yes, I think they come as a package. A lot of 'auteurs' use the same composer (Spielberg-Williams, Fellini-Rota etc) so if you want Mendes for B25 you're getting Newman.
Big question - would you trade a Newman score for a Mendes Bond?
Personally, I think Sam has probably had his fill - he's a busy guy and involved in a lot of projects and will probably want to do other stuff.
B25, I'd like a new team. No disrespect to Sam but I think it's time for a fresh look. If SP does really well, obviously the finance guys will panic and want to stick
I thought the Newman score for SP fairly underwhelming and I don't think he is that into Bond or 'gets it'. The absence of the Bond theme for a major moment was disappointing (well, the very end scene...).
Arnold does indeed love the franchise (and Barry) and understands what the score should be aiming for. He hits more than he misses and in writing the theme for CR was able to weave it into the score (always a winning move like Barry) - I still hum that and think of it still as DC'S 'theme'.
If Mendes says he wants to finish what could effectively now be a trilogy then I'd take it (along with Newman) but my first choice would be a grandstand showdown between Craig's Bond and ESB with a new director and composer
Newman has two, technically 1 and a half since he heavily recycled his own material. Enough is enough.
Agreed with all this But I vote Arnold back.
Claiming only half of SP's score is recycled is grossly exaggerating. Enough with that s---.
:-bd