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A good barometer though is @marko. He knows everything that is out there via "normal" channels, which quite a bit, but he hasn't read the leaks.
@smitty I only followed production of both QoS and SF ahead of time, and I found it enhanced my viewing. That's why I am right on top of SP. As much as we figure out ahead of time, nothing replaces seeing the film for the first time.
The thrill is in seeing it all come together. How all the familiar photos and looks get edited into a tight film. I only do this with Bond, so I've got every other film being made to watch fresh, so there is no shortage of such experiences.
But Bond, I like to learn as the film is being crafted, so I do thank those who diligently stay on top of production. The leaks are just bonus.
Following along is akin to help working on the project and then sitting back to see how all the hard work came together.
When I first saw Fields on screen in her trenchcoat, and Olga in her orange top and skirt outfit in QoS , I sat up straight in my chair, eager with anticipation to see how,the now very familiar images would play out in the finished product. I'd been gawking at those pictures for months. Now they were finally coming to life. Awesome experience.
Now with leaks, we also see how dialogue might play out or even evolve. ie the White cabin scene.
If others want to stay spoiler free, that's their call. Fully respect it, but I'd be quite happy if Mendes sent me the dailies everyday with his commentary. ;)
timmer, I think you underestimate a lot the difference between "not being surprised by" and "actually knowing". It's easy to watch a movie and keep on thinking "I knew that !" or "Told ya !". But here, for once, we actually know something.
@suive I think you understimate your own powers for obtuseness.
We get it. You believe there is still very much in the screenplay that has not been revealed yet.
No f*#@ing kidding. :-B
But I also believe that it is becoming more difficult for people to remember whether what they know, comes from the leaks or from what has got out there via "normal" channels.
Not complicated. Just a simple observation.
I'm still wondering how Sciarra's death will be done, considering it's quite a gruesome death and would require some special effects.
I'm thinking they don't need to show us the gory bits. There are ways to convey his demise without actually showing it. That said I'm hoping for something in between Raiders of the Lost Ark and Captain America: The first Avenger, both feature propeller kills. Most likely they might do something like in TND, where they also had a chopper with CG blades.
On a side note but still related, just finished reading Benson's The Facts of Death and in it one goon gets pulled into a cruise ship rotor leaving a huge cloud of bloody red bits in the water, and not to mention that moment from OHMSS, both in novel and film. I really hope they find some way to make Sciarra's demise work as scripted.
No idea.
Not everyone sitting at that table is mentioned in the script.
But they are all random SPECTRE agents.
Some of them will speak, some not. That's it.
It is not specified in the script, where everybody sits.
I'm just asking who people think it could be, from what you've read.
When Moneypenny's enters her office and discovers a gift from Bond
When Q discovers the DB10 is gone
Scenes with Moneypenny in her apartment - when she is talking with Bond in the chase
Nine Eyes voting
When Q sees Bond's whereabouts and lies to M
M and C in CNS Building scenes
Q in Horatio Hotel
Scenes with M, Moneypenny and C in The Foreign Office
Scene with M, Q and Moneyppeny in the Italian Restaurant
Scenes with M and Moneypenny in Car in the finale - this will probably be filmed on a green screen background
He is. It mentions so in the script and Oberhauser has a door behind him which the guy in the picture above doesn't. Plus Oberhauser has two guys by the door and two guys seated next to him. I think this guy in the photo could just be one of the people who stand up.
Well, I just re-read it, and if I'm not mistaken, in the December script that I can't quote here for copyright reasons :), there is no door specific to Oberhauser in the script, and Hinx is sitting at the far end of the table (opposite to Oberhauser then ?). Also it is said Oberhauser in the end looks upwards to Bond.
But note that in the script, it is said he is on a throne (however, I'm not an English native speaker so I don't know if "throne" is litteral here). We already know that obviously there were some little changes between this script and what they're filming, ie : the different clapperboard numbers.
Plus all second unit work with stuntmen.
Bond is above Oberhauser because he looks upwards towards Bond as if he's turned around and looked up, plus Bond throws the henchman on the table directly in front of Oberhauser and Oberhauser moves his drink before he lands, meaning Oberhauser would have to be directly under Bond to be able to do that.
... or Bond would have to throw that guy very far to the other side of the table. haha ;-)
I definitely think it's more Bondian than the previous ones. As people have noticed each film is getting more and more like the Bond we know and love, yet still keeping the tone they set up when they rebooted the franchise.
I think the romance between Bond and Swann will be better judged when seen on screen and how it's portrayed. It could definitely come across serious but that may just be because we haven't had a proper Bond girl who survives till the end and is a love interest. Of course, we had Camille but she didn't feel like a love interest as much. Also, I'd have to rank it after I'd seen it on the screen. The way I see it is, if you look at each Bond script, you could have said Bond had a serious relationship with any of the main Bond girls.
The film, to me, is top notch especially after the re-writes but I feel it'll be even better when you see how it's actually been taken from page to screen.
Where do I think the final film will end up in my rankings? That I can only tell when I see Mendes' work.
He could make a stunning movie from this script, but he could also go in a different direction. I don't mean content-wise, but the mood of the movie is not written down in the script.
Knowing Mendes, I believe, it will turn out being more Skyfall than Casino Royale.
The romance between Bond and Swann seems not as serious as with Vesper. They have romantic scenes like getting drunk together. But otherwise she's more a normal Bondgirl. You don't really get to know what Bond really feels in this film. I wouldn't say he's in love with Swann. But I'm extremley looking forward to the whole Morocco adventure.
With Swann it's less changing Bond's feelings, but more changing his thoughts.
When I say "normal Bondgirl", I mean, Swann is the kinf of character in the movie, that has to be saved by Bond on severel occasions. She's not an ass-kicking-Halle-Berry-side-kick-girl.
Coming to the action-scenes: in reality none of these would work out for Bond. So yes, they are over-the-top - a lot! The way he escapes collapsing buildings, sliding on their roof-tops. In the script it reads like a Legolas-scene from LotR oder The Hobbit. :-)
Wonder how many more of these we'll hear before the official one is released... urgh.
It's such a shame we won't be hearing the official one for a while. From what I can remember, Adele and Skyfall was announced and released around a month before the release of the film? But it was easier with that because we already knew she was doing it.
But this happens at the end of the scene, while the image above is probably at the beginning, and Bond moves during the scene to come closer.
And well, the direction means this guy is important, and he's not Hinx who's at the other side, so...
kind of a cool song. doubt its the one though
Bond can't move over to the other side to throw the guy over because there isn't a balcony on the other side. I think the image above is after Bond has moved closer.
I think @MadeleineSwann is right on this one.
I don't want to spoil or anything (ive read the script), but just to alleviate your concerns,