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  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    GoldenGun wrote: »
    CrabKey wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    LeighBurne wrote: »
    John Barry’s scores weren’t really anything special until You Only Live Twice.

    I disagree with that. I think FRWL already shows Barry's brilliance. But the power injected in his GF and TB scores is phenomenal. I consider them very special and ahead of their time in almost every regard.

    Everything Barry did was special. Other than Star Wars, I can't think of another title song or tune as impactful as the opening of GF.

    I'd add Morricone's theme tune for Il buono, il brutto, il cattivo to that list, but that's as far as I go too.

    TB is also one of my very favourite Bond scores, so atmospheric and mysterious, I love it.

    Luftwaffe march - battle of Britain.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
    Posts: 2,022
    CommanderRoss wrote: »
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    CrabKey wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    LeighBurne wrote: »
    John Barry’s scores weren’t really anything special until You Only Live Twice.

    I disagree with that. I think FRWL already shows Barry's brilliance. But the power injected in his GF and TB scores is phenomenal. I consider them very special and ahead of their time in almost every regard.

    Everything Barry did was special. Other than Star Wars, I can't think of another title song or tune as impactful as the opening of GF.

    I'd add Morricone's theme tune for Il buono, il brutto, il cattivo to that list, but that's as far as I go too.

    TB is also one of my very favourite Bond scores, so atmospheric and mysterious, I love it.

    Luftwaffe march - battle of Britain.

    Not sure that one carries any weight outside of the UK. I've never seen the movie.
  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
    Posts: 2,232
    As much as I like Ken Adam, he doesn't work that much on Bond films.
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    CrabKey wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    LeighBurne wrote: »
    John Barry’s scores weren’t really anything special until You Only Live Twice.

    I disagree with that. I think FRWL already shows Barry's brilliance. But the power injected in his GF and TB scores is phenomenal. I consider them very special and ahead of their time in almost every regard.

    Everything Barry did was special. Other than Star Wars, I can't think of another title song or tune as impactful as the opening of GF.

    I'd add Morricone's theme tune for Il buono, il brutto, il cattivo to that list, but that's as far as I go too.

    TB is also one of my very favourite Bond scores, so atmospheric and mysterious, I love it.



    I think this theme would be the one that deserves that honor.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
    Posts: 9,332
    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    As much as I like Ken Adam, he doesn't work that much on Bond films.
    Ken Adam?
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    Posts: 7,666
    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    As much as I like Ken Adam, he doesn't work that much on Bond films.
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    CrabKey wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    LeighBurne wrote: »
    John Barry’s scores weren’t really anything special until You Only Live Twice.

    I disagree with that. I think FRWL already shows Barry's brilliance. But the power injected in his GF and TB scores is phenomenal. I consider them very special and ahead of their time in almost every regard.

    Everything Barry did was special. Other than Star Wars, I can't think of another title song or tune as impactful as the opening of GF.

    I'd add Morricone's theme tune for Il buono, il brutto, il cattivo to that list, but that's as far as I go too.

    TB is also one of my very favourite Bond scores, so atmospheric and mysterious, I love it.



    I think this theme would be the one that deserves that honor.

    Also a superb track, that's for sure.
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
    Posts: 8,846
    LucknFate wrote: »
    CommanderRoss wrote: »
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    CrabKey wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    LeighBurne wrote: »
    John Barry’s scores weren’t really anything special until You Only Live Twice.

    I disagree with that. I think FRWL already shows Barry's brilliance. But the power injected in his GF and TB scores is phenomenal. I consider them very special and ahead of their time in almost every regard.

    Everything Barry did was special. Other than Star Wars, I can't think of another title song or tune as impactful as the opening of GF.

    I'd add Morricone's theme tune for Il buono, il brutto, il cattivo to that list, but that's as far as I go too.

    TB is also one of my very favourite Bond scores, so atmospheric and mysterious, I love it.

    Luftwaffe march - battle of Britain.

    Not sure that one carries any weight outside of the UK. I've never seen the movie.

    I'm Dutch. ;-)

  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
    Posts: 2,022
    CommanderRoss wrote: »
    LucknFate wrote: »
    CommanderRoss wrote: »
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    CrabKey wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    LeighBurne wrote: »
    John Barry’s scores weren’t really anything special until You Only Live Twice.

    I disagree with that. I think FRWL already shows Barry's brilliance. But the power injected in his GF and TB scores is phenomenal. I consider them very special and ahead of their time in almost every regard.

    Everything Barry did was special. Other than Star Wars, I can't think of another title song or tune as impactful as the opening of GF.

    I'd add Morricone's theme tune for Il buono, il brutto, il cattivo to that list, but that's as far as I go too.

    TB is also one of my very favourite Bond scores, so atmospheric and mysterious, I love it.

    Luftwaffe march - battle of Britain.

    Not sure that one carries any weight outside of the UK. I've never seen the movie.

    I'm Dutch. ;-)

    Congrats. Doesn't mean most of the world has ever heard of that song.
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
    Posts: 8,846
    LucknFate wrote: »
    CommanderRoss wrote: »
    LucknFate wrote: »
    CommanderRoss wrote: »
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    CrabKey wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    LeighBurne wrote: »
    John Barry’s scores weren’t really anything special until You Only Live Twice.

    I disagree with that. I think FRWL already shows Barry's brilliance. But the power injected in his GF and TB scores is phenomenal. I consider them very special and ahead of their time in almost every regard.

    Everything Barry did was special. Other than Star Wars, I can't think of another title song or tune as impactful as the opening of GF.

    I'd add Morricone's theme tune for Il buono, il brutto, il cattivo to that list, but that's as far as I go too.

    TB is also one of my very favourite Bond scores, so atmospheric and mysterious, I love it.

    Luftwaffe march - battle of Britain.

    Not sure that one carries any weight outside of the UK. I've never seen the movie.

    I'm Dutch. ;-)

    Congrats. Doesn't mean most of the world has ever heard of that song.

    Well, in aviation circles it is extremely well known. Slightly behind Top Gun (obviously). And that's not only in Europe, but worldwide.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited July 17 Posts: 18,566
    I'd say there's been quite a few movie tunes as impactful and iconic as Goldfinger (and indeed I think most would probably rate the James Bond theme itself above that), but it's subjective I guess.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    Posts: 7,666
    mtm wrote: »
    I'd say there's been quite a few movie tunes as impactful and iconic as Goldfinger (and indeed I think most would probably rate the James Bond theme itself above that), but it's subjective I guess.

    I would say I do. James Bond Theme first, and then GF and NDIB.

    Other immediately recognisable stuff could include Jaws, The Godfather, La dolce vita, Star Wars, some spaghetti western scores by Morricone, and probably quite a few more too.

    Doesn't take anything away from the fact that the 007 series has some immortal tunes attached to it, ofc ;)
  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
    Posts: 2,232
    j_w_pepper wrote: »
    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    As much as I like Ken Adam, he doesn't work that much on Bond films.
    Ken Adam?

    Forget this, I forgot to delete it.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
    edited July 17 Posts: 2,022
    CommanderRoss wrote: »
    LucknFate wrote: »
    CommanderRoss wrote: »
    LucknFate wrote: »
    CommanderRoss wrote: »
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    CrabKey wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    LeighBurne wrote: »
    John Barry’s scores weren’t really anything special until You Only Live Twice.

    I disagree with that. I think FRWL already shows Barry's brilliance. But the power injected in his GF and TB scores is phenomenal. I consider them very special and ahead of their time in almost every regard.

    Everything Barry did was special. Other than Star Wars, I can't think of another title song or tune as impactful as the opening of GF.

    I'd add Morricone's theme tune for Il buono, il brutto, il cattivo to that list, but that's as far as I go too.

    TB is also one of my very favourite Bond scores, so atmospheric and mysterious, I love it.

    Luftwaffe march - battle of Britain.

    Not sure that one carries any weight outside of the UK. I've never seen the movie.

    I'm Dutch. ;-)

    Congrats. Doesn't mean most of the world has ever heard of that song.

    Well, in aviation circles it is extremely well known. Slightly behind Top Gun (obviously). And that's not only in Europe, but worldwide.

    I don't think you can back that up. It is hardly comparable to Top Gun in terms of pop culture awareness and popularity these days, be real.

    Google proves me right: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=/m/01jwxx,/m/018js4&hl=en

    My only context for this movie is Jeremy Clarkson's obsession with it on Top Gear, and that was already over a decade ago as well.
  • AnotherZorinStoogeAnotherZorinStooge Bramhall (Irish)
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    every 007 is terrible and the people who watch them need to grow up
  • 007HallY007HallY
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    AnotherZorinStooge wrote: »
    every 007 is terrible and the people who watch them need to grow up

    Why do I genuinely believe this an opinion you hold? 😉 I’m kidding of course.

    Obviously all Bond fans are degenerates and will never grow up.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 6,857
    CommanderRoss wrote: »
    LucknFate wrote: »
    CommanderRoss wrote: »
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    CrabKey wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    LeighBurne wrote: »
    John Barry’s scores weren’t really anything special until You Only Live Twice.

    I disagree with that. I think FRWL already shows Barry's brilliance. But the power injected in his GF and TB scores is phenomenal. I consider them very special and ahead of their time in almost every regard.

    Everything Barry did was special. Other than Star Wars, I can't think of another title song or tune as impactful as the opening of GF.

    I'd add Morricone's theme tune for Il buono, il brutto, il cattivo to that list, but that's as far as I go too.

    TB is also one of my very favourite Bond scores, so atmospheric and mysterious, I love it.

    Luftwaffe march - battle of Britain.

    Not sure that one carries any weight outside of the UK. I've never seen the movie.

    I'm Dutch. ;-)

    LOL.
  • SeveSeve The island of Lemoy
    edited July 17 Posts: 695
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I'd say there's been quite a few movie tunes as impactful and iconic as Goldfinger (and indeed I think most would probably rate the James Bond theme itself above that), but it's subjective I guess.

    I would say I do. James Bond Theme first, and then GF and NDIB.

    Other immediately recognisable stuff could include Jaws, The Godfather, La dolce vita, Star Wars, some spaghetti western scores by Morricone, and probably quite a few more too.

    Doesn't take anything away from the fact that the 007 series has some immortal tunes attached to it, ofc ;)

    NDIB?

    I agree though, plus a number of TV themes

    Lalo Schiffen's original version of "Mission Impossible" would be top 5 for me

    The "Thunderbird March" might not be so well known among younger folk these days, on the other hand there was rebooted TV series as recently as 2020

    Dr Who of course

    The theme to the old Western series "The Virginian", called "Lonesome Tree" by Percy Faith, is also a fixture in my all time top 5
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Nobody Does It Better. It’s an interesting point of GoldenGun’s that, alongside GF, it might be the most iconic Bond theme with the biggest life beyond the films. I guess maybe LALD might be up there too? Funny how it’s not necessarily the Barry ones.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    Posts: 15,252
    True about NDIB. I was aware of that many years before discovering Bond. One that does the rounds on easy listening stations.
  • SeveSeve The island of Lemoy
    edited July 17 Posts: 695
    mtm wrote: »
    Nobody Does It Better. It’s an interesting point of GoldenGun’s that, alongside GF, it might be the most iconic Bond theme with the biggest life beyond the films. I guess maybe LALD might be up there too? Funny how it’s not necessarily the Barry ones.

    Doh! Of course, yes, I was thinking in movie title mode...

    I'm with you there, they are the biggies for me too

    But I imagine other generations may feel the same about AVTAK (a US #1 hit song), YNMN or SF (first Bond Oscar winner)
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 18,566
    I don’t think YKMN would feature; although fans like it, it’s not terribly well-known I’d say.
  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
    Posts: 2,232
    mtm wrote: »
    Nobody Does It Better. It’s an interesting point of GoldenGun’s that, alongside GF, it might be the most iconic Bond theme with the biggest life beyond the films. I guess maybe LALD might be up there too? Funny how it’s not necessarily the Barry ones.

    Many people knew LALD through the Guns N' Roses version.
  • AnotherZorinStoogeAnotherZorinStooge Bramhall (Irish)
    Posts: 767
    007HallY wrote: »
    AnotherZorinStooge wrote: »
    every 007 is terrible and the people who watch them need to grow up

    Obviously all Bond fans are degenerates and will never grow up.

    Me especially

    If you want to fight me after school,
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
    Posts: 15,465
    GF, NDIB are sure Bond classics. LALD would be a good addition. I find AVTAK is a strong contender, along with SF over YKMN..
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
    edited July 18 Posts: 4,420
    mtm wrote: »
    Nobody Does It Better. It’s an interesting point of GoldenGun’s that, alongside GF, it might be the most iconic Bond theme with the biggest life beyond the films. I guess maybe LALD might be up there too? Funny how it’s not necessarily the Barry ones.

    Nobody Does It Better...That's the song that sparked my interest in Bond music...
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