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Controversial opinions about Bond films

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  • 007ClassicBondFan007ClassicBondFan
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    007HallY wrote: »
    Reflsin2bourbons wrote: »
    Take the opinion of Craig vs Brosnan 10 years ago, and the opinion now, and there's probably been a shift in Brosnan's favour. Even if Brosnan hasn't risen in their rankings, Craig has probably fallen due to complaints about the tone and style of the last few films. And one thing this forum has that the general Bond community doesn't is an increasing annoyance with Skyfall, a film that the general populus still loves. Give it time and Brosnan will probably be back on the rise more than before.

    Craig, I expect, will go to being underrated for quite a while until the end of Bond 7's tenure.

    My only concept of this are these forums and friends/family, but for what it’s worth I think Craig’s still the favourite. Honestly, by quite a margin. Maybe it skews more that way outside here, and I think more complaints about ‘tone’ are more a thing with fans.

    I certainly hope Bond 7 will give Craig’s a run for his money and even be better (insofar as that’s subjective).

    I think on here Craig may be the favorite but if you scroll over to the James Bond Reddit page you’ll find a rather large number of users who are Pro Brosnan/Anti Craig - it’s unfortunate because while I may prefer Pierce I can still see the value of Craig’s portrayal and what he brought. On the Reddit forums however you’ll tend to see a lot of generalizations about the Craig era as a whole and his portrayal in general.

    I don’t think Brosnan has gone down in estimation with casual fans as much as he has with the hardcore fandom. Yeah some will whine and moan about him here but he’s still held up in high regard in general - it’s not an uncommon take to think that he rivals or even surpasses Connery - if anything it just goes to show how different everyone’s opinions are. I’m happy Pierce is getting the recognition he deserves - he’s been thrown under the bus by fans for things out of his control for far too long now and now that Craig’s era is behind us it’s allowed some fans to go back and revisit the Brosnan era with a fresh set of eyes in the way that Dalton’s films have undergone a renaissance.
  • AnotherZorinStoogeAnotherZorinStooge Bramhall (Irish)
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    007HallY wrote: »
    AnotherZorinStooge wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    Reflsin2bourbons wrote: »
    Take the opinion of Craig vs Brosnan 10 years ago, and the opinion now, and there's probably been a shift in Brosnan's favour. Even if Brosnan hasn't risen in their rankings, Craig has probably fallen due to complaints about the tone and style of the last few films. And one thing this forum has that the general Bond community doesn't is an increasing annoyance with Skyfall, a film that the general populus still loves. Give it time and Brosnan will probably be back on the rise more than before.

    Craig, I expect, will go to being underrated for quite a while until the end of Bond 7's tenure.

    My only concept of this are these forums and friends/family, but for what it’s worth I think Craig’s still the favourite. Honestly, by quite a margin. Maybe it skews more that way outside here, and I think more complaints about ‘tone’ are more a thing with fans.

    I certainly hope Bond 7 will give Craig’s a run for his money and even be better (insofar as that’s subjective).
    AnotherZorinStooge wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    AnotherZorinStooge wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I’d agree with CmrRoss that Brosnan has come off the worst after Craig, mainly because his period flirted with adding drama to Bond which all looks rather half-hearted next to the films which followed. They also tried to make him look tough at times, again paling in comparison to Craig who believably was a tough guy. Brosnan looks a bit fey to me now.

    I'd say the likes of TWINE and DAD are polished, not improved, by the likes of SF.

    Both Craig and Brosnan's tenure suffers from attempting a Dalton-esque approach to the narrative, whilst simultaneously failing to add the flighty joie de vivre of the originals.

    Brosnan comes off smug and Craig pretentious.

    I'd still watch all of the films (yes, dad included), but with the sickly tang of disappointment.

    My God, I’ve never read such misery when it comes to Bond 😂

    You've never lived.....TWICE!

    You only live twice. Once when you look death in the face… the other when you’ve decided to watch TWINE and DAD back to back.

    Kidding of course 😉 actually I need to revisit both.

    TWINE, DAD and SF is one heck of a night!

    Get something to drink and plenty of snacks!

    SF is the perfect pallet cleanser, aye!

    Closest I’ve ever done is watching Mission Impossible Rogue Nation and then SF with a mate. Didn’t enjoy the former, and I got him to watch it to prove Bond at its best (imo) is better than MI supposedly at the same stage. To be fair SF went down better in that viewing.

    Regardless, my favourite beer and pizza Bond film is TND.

    Interesting shout.

    TLD, for me.
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