Did Bond influence you to start smoking and/or drinking ?

edited May 2014 in General Discussion Posts: 19,339
For me,he certainly did influence me to try out drinking when i was younger,although i think it was always inside me anyway due to being half Irish hahaha !!

Smoking though,no not at all.I knew the risks of it and with no pleasure to it at all compared to drinking, so i have never smoked and never will.
I do drink a lot but i enjoy it ,especially watching a 007 flick.

How about you lot ? :D
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  • Posts: 11,175
    I suppose he did make me want to try a Vesper (or 3) when I was at the Barbican in 2012 ;)
  • SandySandy Somewhere in Europe
    Posts: 4,012
    Not at all. I only rarely drink (and when I do, very little) and was never a smoker. He did influence me to be a bit of a snob in what I drink but that might not be only Bond's responsability.
  • Posts: 11,175
    I've never smoked and have never been tempted to smoke. It was cool up until the 60s.
  • Posts: 802
    No but he made me want to shag like a banshee!
  • edited May 2014 Posts: 19,339
    Villiers53 wrote:
    No but he made me want to shag like a banshee!

    Hahaha totally agree with that,however there is a difference between wanting to and getting a smack in the gob from a girl when you try to !!

  • Posts: 802
    barryt007 wrote:
    Villiers53 wrote:
    No but he made me want to shag like a banshee!

    Hahaha totally agree with that,however there is a difference between wanting to and getting a smack in the gob from a girl when you try to !

    Happily life as a Bond aficionado has taught me the importance of seduction!
  • Posts: 19,339
    You stud you ^:)^ ;)
  • Posts: 7,599
    No it did not.

    I smoked because the girl I was in love was did and drinking has never featured heavy on my agenda. I quit smoking when my daughter was born.

    I do not think that 007 in books or movies influenced me at all, simply because they are entertainment.
  • Posts: 12,676
    No.
  • DragonpolDragonpol The Crazy World of David Dragonpol
    edited May 2014 Posts: 13,422
    I don't smoke or drink - so no. I strongly believe that you can still enjoy Bond very much without emulating him, though each to their own of course.
  • Posts: 802
    barryt007 wrote:
    You stud you

    Thanks!
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Robotswana
    Posts: 38,606
    No, but it is not my fault that I am unable to stop. I blame James Bond for that.
  • Posts: 10,274
    Haven't smoked and never plan to; any alcohol I've drunk wasn't influenced by Bond haha. So no to both.
  • edited May 2014 Posts: 5,740
    No on both accounts.

    And (on a sidenote...), Bond's taste in alcohol has never impressed me that much. Is it just me? All through the novels he seems to drink champagne... with everything... no matter what the food, mr Bond drinks champagne... It's not really that sophisticated. Expensive sure, but not sophisticated. I know there are exceptions to the rule, but in those cases I usually disagree with his choises. Like when he eats smoked salmon in Moonraker, and chooses... vodka?? What's the thought behind that?

    And the "Vesper drink" which I guess is what it's known as today, is really not that good. I believe I have heard from somewhere that Fleming even admitted he just made it up while writing (not the drink "Vodka Martini" of course, but the now very famous measurements), and later tasted it, realising he didn't like. Something like that...

    To be fair on behalf of mister Fleming, I guess it was more difficult to sample vines in the 30s, 40s and 50s than it is today. But champagne with everything?
  • Posts: 19,339
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  • Posts: 5,740
    Exactly! :))
  • Posts: 12,020
    No it wasn't Bond that got me drinking? It was me being a Cocktail Barman! :D
  • edited May 2014 Posts: 4,622
    No it was bad-boy teenage pals on both accounts.
    Although I must admit I did rather like the Players packaging, having read Thunderball long before I entered my reprobate late-teenage years, although no one else in our pack knew or cared about such 007 book trivia. If I tried to tell the story, eyes would glaze over, so that didn't last.
    Players though was a very popular brand in its own right, with us teenage males. We smoked PlayersLight of course, as a gesture towards "moderation" I guess. Ony hardcore smoked full strength Players. Scary dudes.
    As for booze, I was weened on steady diet of domestic beer and not much else. Nowadays I like sampling more sophisticated Bond drinks, although book-Bond, not terribly sophisticated really, seems to live on a steady diet of whiskey, bourbon, vodka-martinis and of course champagne. But Fleming's Bond generally drank good booze.
    Compare Bond with say Steed in the Avengers. Bond is a tough guy, serious boozer, who handles the hard stuff.
    Steed although very capable, is more bowler-hatted, umbrella-wielding, very cultured sort. Steed likes his expensive brandy and champagne.
  • Posts: 2,469
    Just martinis.
  • Posts: 4,622
    Just martinis.
    How do you mix your martinis Khan?

  • Posts: 2,469
    Shaken, not stirred, of course.

    ;)

    Seriously, though, shaking is the best approach for vodka martinis where super cold temps are desirable because warm vodka tastes funky. The colder the better, and shaking produces cold better than stirring.

    With gin martinis, it's just the opposite. I stir these because gin has all sorts of botanicals which can be "damaged" and produce off flavors during agitation. A stirred gin martini, on the other hand, is just the thing and quite a delight when the gin is good.
  • BirdlesonBirdleson San Jose, CAModerator
    Posts: 29,638
    No question that when I go on my annual smoking binge (lasts a month or two) it's usually precipitated by a Bond film or a Bogart film.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded Dancing at midnight under the BeBop Moon
    edited May 2014 Posts: 11,746
    No for smoking. I've never smoked and don't see the appeal. And kissing a man who has smoked recently is ... yeah, let's not go there. Not a turn on.

    No for drinking. I was happily drinking as a young teen, Bond or no Bond (first Ripple at a friend's house, then graduated to finer things than Ripple), and I still drink occasionally. Wine maybe twice a month, sort of like that. I don't get out to anywhere where cocktails are usually served. Kind of rare, but I do enjoy that sometimes. Hmmm. So no influence except now when I order a mojito, champagne, or martini I do think of Bond, probably nearly every time. And Bond films have probably influenced me more with my style of drinking, how to drink with elan and confidence, how to hold a glass correctly or seductively (not saying I have perfected this by any means). :D
  • edited May 2014 Posts: 4,622
    Shaken, not stirred, of course.

    ;)

    Seriously, though, shaking is the best approach for vodka martinis where super cold temps are desirable because warm vodka tastes funky. The colder the better, and shaking produces cold better than stirring.

    With gin martinis, it's just the opposite. I stir these because gin has all sorts of botanicals which can be "damaged" and produce off flavors during agitation. A stirred gin martini, on the other hand, is just the thing and quite a delight when the gin is good.
    Great tips there Khan. Bond has nothing on you! Being a Bond fan, I wouldn't think of doing anything but shake a martini...thus very helpful regarding the gin preparation.

    @birdleson Smoking binges. That's radical. I couldn't do that. Took me almost two years to quit when I finally got around to making the effort. Haven't relapsed since and never will. Occasional cigars I find don't make any difference. Puffing on a pricey cuban stogie doesn't make one return to the "fags"

    @4everbonded The Japanese haven't turned you into a sake drinker?

  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded Dancing at midnight under the BeBop Moon
    Posts: 11,746
    Ah sooooooo. No, I don't like sake, dear Timmer. Or plum wine, alas; too sticky sweet, even for me. :)

    I do love a traditional gin martini. With the biggest, fattest olives. Yum! And yes, stirring is mandatory for that one so as not to "bruise" the gin due to the botanicals, as Perilagu_Khan mentioned. I think it's juniper. I even like its smell, and I do take a touch of vermouth in mine.
  • DragonpolDragonpol The Crazy World of David Dragonpol
    Posts: 13,422
    Killing though is another matter... >:)
  • Posts: 12,292
    I used to smoke and I do drink but I wasn't really influenced by Bond.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    Posts: 4,171
    Not really influence per se, but who hasn't tried a Vodka Martini? ;-)

    Of course warm vodka tastes rancid, as mentioned by @Perilagu_Khan. Which is why my first experience with vodka martinis tasted some, erm, peculiar.

    Now it's Guinness all the way. Cider gives me heartburn and lager tastes like vomit, so my choice is rather limited.

    The first time I smoked, (disliked the way it tastes, so never took it up), I had an image of Sean Connery in Dr No. Unfortunately, I wasn't as suave as him, choking on my ciggy. ;-)
  • Posts: 12,676
    As a teenager, listening to my best friend at the time coughing his lungs out as if he was an old man put me off smoking for life. No Bond movie or novel would have made me look at smoking as a glamorous activity. But I do find that cigars have some charm.

    About Bond's tastes in alcohol, I never thought they were sophisticated, not in Fleming anyway. In the movies, they turned Bond's latent alcoholism into caricatural snobbery.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 18,295
    Bond neither got me to smoke nor to drink. Caviare and Foie Gras, by contract, I have tasted my share of. ;-)

    I like how in Bond's universe, those things are perfectly acceptable. But in real life, I'm fully aware that, unlike Bond, I'm not indestructible myself.
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