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I think that's just because its a few days old and only updates after weekends. The 134 now means it passed OHMSS in the US.
Well click on the link and see! I omitted everything under QOS just for space.
Actually...........No.........TSWLM.....though a huge hit worldwide, wasn't actually that big in North America
Gross:- $46,838,673.......and adjusted $175,172,400......its way down in 15th position.
btw:- SP still needs close to another $500 mil to topple TB .......no chance of that! :)
No, acording with Box Office Mojo, unadjusted gross is 134,6 and adjusted gross is 130,4 .... :-S
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=jamesbond.htm
I could spend ages listing a whole raft of BO discrepancies (many to do with the Bond franchise)......but i'd rather stick cocktail sticks in my eyes!
Absolutely true. Pierce Brosnan meant a return to slightly more "Connery-esque" popularity from the 1960's. But the Craig era went even further than that. "Skyfall" is, with inflation correction, the most succesful Bond film in the US together with "Goldfinger" and "Thunderball"....even beating "YOLT".
........and Craig
I'd like to think Craig too but still too soon? Here in the UK we do seem to be rather protective of Craig though.
Given that Skyfall is the highest grossing film of all time in Britain and Spectre looks like it might be No.2, it's pretty odd to say that Craig is not big in the UK...?
I see what you mean. I guess there is a margin of error, but its a useful tool to see roughly how well the films stack up against each other.
It would indeed be pretty odd to say Craig is not big in the UK, which is precisely why I haven't said such a thing in relation to box office performance.
Whether he will be permitted to be regarded as a major top tier Bond like Connery or Moore in the affections of the public will only be truly apparent when he's no longer the incumbent in the role.
Brosnan topped or came runner up 'best since Connery' in best Bond polls in the UK during his time in the role but his stock has since fallen.
Anyway, over 10 years ago the BFI and Channel 4 set out to compile a list of what they believed were the most attended films ever in the UK.
In the list of the top 100 films, there are 7 Bond films, with there estimated admissions.
1. TB (Connery) 15.6 mil
2. GF (Connery) 13.9 mil
3. TSWLM (Moore) 12.46 mil
4. MR (Moore) 9.41 mil
5. LALD (Moore) 9 mil
6. DAD (Brosnan) 8.58 mil
7. YOLT (Connery) 8.3 mil
Here is a list from the European Admissions source:- figures collected from 1996 onwards
1. DAD (Brosnan) 7,858,277 (see below)
2. CR (Craig) 10,423,140
3. QOS (Craig) 9,883562
4. SF (Craig) 16,146,893
Summary, these figures go to show that in the UK, the Bond films of the Connery, Moore and Craig era's to be the most popular, in terms of bums on seats.
Interesting to see that there is quite a discrepancy for the estimated number of admissions for DAD between the BFI research, and the more modern European source. I think there is an error here with the European source, as they have a higher admission figure for TWINE, despite that film having a smaller BO take than DAD in the UK.
The admissions for Bond really rocketed with SF in the UK.
Notice, how even in the UK as per the US, admissions tailed off quite a lot after the Bondmania of TB & GF.
Interesting indeed. For some reason Brosnan just resonated with US fans more and became very marketable, likely with the success of Remington Steele in the states. When looking at the world wide inflation adjusted, LALD was 4 and TSWLM was 6, where they don't appear in the top 15 on that US chart. Similarly DAD & TND which ranked 6 & 7 in the states come in at 13th & 18th globally.
Global Inflation Adjusted BO
http://www.007james.com/articles/box_office.php
Yes, Brosnan was a pretty big star here in the '80s and that undeniably contributed to his appeal. Many people in the US didn't know who Dalton was when he was announced as Bond, although I did, having watched Flash Gordon many times as a child.
Box Office News France:
The attacks that took place in Paris last Friday and the closure of many cinemas over the weekend did not prevent the 24th episode of 007 to succeed the best start in 2015 in its first week of release in France, with more than 2 million spectators.
When everything goes wrong, the only one to turn Bond remains. James Bond. According to the ranking published today by CBO Box Office, SPECTRE, the new movie of secret agent in the service of Her Majesty had the fastest start of 2015 with 2.2 million viewers in its first week, despite the attacks that took place in Paris last Friday.
The 24th installment of the adventures of the famous British spy (played by Daniel Craig), released on the holiday of November 11, was attended by 2,203,549 viewers in France to 902 screens, even as the Parisian cinemas had closed their rooms in the aftermath of Saturday attacks in Paris.
James Bond is also stronger than the Minions. SPECTRE and beats the record held so far this year by The Minions, which drew 2,180,641 viewers in its first week of operation.
It's also the best start in France for a James Bond film. The previous James Bond, Skyfall, had collected 1,839,220 viewers in its entire first week in October 2012.
In comparison, last week "SPECTRE" entered the Chinese box office on Thursday on 3rd position with an estimated gross of $830,000 / $0.83 Million from 3,267 Screenings.
It means that, at least so far, "The Hunger Games 4: Mockingjay Part 2" is not going to break box office records in China. Something that I already expected. Remember, "Hunger Games 4" will not be shown in IMAX.
In the meanwhile, "SPECTRE" grossed another $3,033,000 on Thursday. Its box office total now stands at $65.2 Million. Expect good strong legs for "SPECTRE" in China upcoming weekend. http://www.boxofficechina.com/beta/2015-11-19
I agree in general but I actually think this works to Bond's advantage. Bond doesn't require complex dialogue. Much of the best dialogue in the films has always been very tightly scripted - short, pithy exchanges, full of wit. Action is not a problem for Bond either, although we obviously don't want too much.
SF is hardly an action fest and look how it did internationally.
I think Bond is well placed to conquer the world and still do it on his own terms.
It gets complicated when relying on foreign markets for box office gross.
I agree however that overreliance on the US market was not a good idea. Even then, they didn't need to go to the lowest commone denominator like they did from 1997-2002. There are ways to appeal to the American market without pissing all over the franchise in the process. SF is a perfect example.
But why did Americans LOVE SF and were meh about SP? Can it be simply explained by the wave of Britishness that swept the world in 2012, after the royal wedding/Olympics?
We aren't mindless drones going with the flow. However, I do think all that helped make SF a bigger event movie. The good reviews and word of mouth gave SF legs.
Americans getting blamed for the performance and not EON's half assed job is getting increasingly annoying.