Lost but now found! The Unreleased Bond Music Thread!

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  • chrisesqetcchrisesqetc London
    edited January 15 Posts: 43
    mattjoes wrote: »
    I must say I'm severely disappointed by the upcoming LLLR releases of LALD and OP. After DAD, TWINE and TND, I was expecting track titles like these:

    Yo-Yo Fight and Vijay Gets It
    Mischka Gets It
    Orlov Gets It
    Gorilla Suit and Grischka Gets It
    Kamal Gets It and Finale
    Yo-Yo Fight and Vijay Gets It (Extended Version)

    and of course,

    If He Finds It, Give It to Him

    Makes you wonder why Thomas Newman didn't follow suit and opt for "M Gets It" on the Skyfall album!
  • edited January 16 Posts: 440
    mtm wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    Moonraker and Licence To Kill seem likely since they were up for consideration in 2019 allegedly.

    Apparently their release was only stopped because Eon/MGM wanted the focus on NTTD, so hopefully OP & LALD are a sign that they’ve softened on that. I just hope they don’t wait until the last week of the year to announce them, like they did with these!

    I've also heard through the grapevine that basically all projects that would've involved outside companies licensing their assets were put on hold until MGM was sold and the buyout was fully completed.

    And sure enough, about a year ago, a ton of MGM movie, show, and soundtrack releases which had slowly been going out of stock suddenly began to get brand new releases on boutique labels.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    edited January 16 Posts: 5,976
    peter wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    This is a very nice vid of Bond '77, featuring the bits which didn't get released on the score album: watch to the end for some bits from the underwater battle. Shows how much a full soundtrack release could feature.



    Fantastic… just listening to it makes the hairs on the back of the neck stand. Great and richly layered music….

    I saw Hamlisch in concert once. He was very talented.

    Also, Caroline Munro! Is there a more fun minor character in the Bond series? I don't think so!
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited January 16 Posts: 14,945
    mtm wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    Moonraker and Licence To Kill seem likely since they were up for consideration in 2019 allegedly.

    Apparently their release was only stopped because Eon/MGM wanted the focus on NTTD, so hopefully OP & LALD are a sign that they’ve softened on that. I just hope they don’t wait until the last week of the year to announce them, like they did with these!

    I've also heard through the grapevine that basically all projects that would've involved outside companies licensing their assets were put on hold until MGM was sold and the buyout was fully completed.

    And sure enough, about a year ago, a ton of MGM movie, show, and soundtrack releases which had slowly been going out of stock suddenly began to get brand new releases on boutique labels.

    Ah, that would sense, yes. I guess it was a bit of a perfect storm of all of those happening at once. Fingers crossed the situation now means there will be more on the horizon.
    echo wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    This is a very nice vid of Bond '77, featuring the bits which didn't get released on the score album: watch to the end for some bits from the underwater battle. Shows how much a full soundtrack release could feature.



    Fantastic… just listening to it makes the hairs on the back of the neck stand. Great and richly layered music….

    I saw Hamlisch in concert once. He was very talented.

    Also, Caroline Munro! Is there a more fun minor character in the Bond series? I don't think so!

    And it's her birthday today, if Twitter is to be believed!
  • mattjoesmattjoes Kicking: Impossible
    Posts: 6,721
    Sir Godfrey, your hat.

    Vj6Ynfp.jpg



    A View to a Kill: Arrival at Zorin's Chateau - Download here:
    https://mega.nz/folder/cFhB2Q7A#xrKGz2PgSzStVu7Y02cfWQ



    This track I had already shared here, back in 2021, but since then, I've applied some EQ to it, because I thought it could be improved a bit. If you have the 2021 version, I recommend you replace it with this one.

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    Moonraker: Venini Glassworks (remastered) - Download here:
    https://mega.nz/folder/cFQgDRIZ#a_FFwFdURR-HxDpjRuCPag
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 14,945
    Gorgeous as ever.
  • chrisesqetcchrisesqetc London
    Posts: 43
    Another excellent choice! Thanks for your hard work on these - AVTAK in particular is a joy!
  • Thank you for posting this - it’s gorgeous
  • Posts: 85
    This is wonderful, thanks so much @mattjoes! I know I've been lobbying you for the Chateau cue for some time. It's much appreciated.

    Also, the effort you make with the artwork is highly commendable. I've only just noticed the Chateau photoshopped behind dear Roger on the Eiffel Tower :D
  • Posts: 11
    @mattjoes Brilliant, thank you! I always listen to your amazing remakes on repeat!
  • mattjoesmattjoes Kicking: Impossible
    Posts: 6,721
    You're welcome.

    Also, the effort you make with the artwork is highly commendable. I've only just noticed the Chateau photoshopped behind dear Roger on the Eiffel Tower :D
    Thanks for noticing. I treat these tracks like single releases, hence the different artwork of each one of them.
  • chrisesqetcchrisesqetc London
    Posts: 43
    As we near the release of the expanded Octopussy soundtrack from LaLaLand Records, for the completists out there I have located and matched up a series of source music tracks from the film.

    They make up mostly circus music, with a couple of exceptions. Have listed in full below - I think all are accurate. Some are sourced from the De Wolfe music library and the KPM Music Ltd library (now APM Music). Whilst the KPM music has been uploaded to YouTube, I am unable to track down a downloadable copy of all the De Wolfe music beyond the main link on their website.

    @Bond_Scores may be of interest for your Octopussy complete score write up in the other thread :)

    The Belle of Chicago (Edrich Siebert)
    KPM Music Ltd (now found at https://www.apmmusic.com/)
    Plays just after the title sequence as 009 flees from the circus as Mischka and Grischka give chase.


    Dramatic Drumming (M. Kansara)
    De Wolfe Music Ltd
    https://librarymusic.jp/dwlp306010/
    I believe this plays when during the jungle chase when Bond removes the leech and then is chased by the crocodile.

    Tom Tom Rhythms (Sy M'Boko)
    De Wolfe Music Ltd
    https://www.dewolfemusic.com/search.php?id=27475356&code=ou48UG
    Unsure of the exact placement of this one, but probably in the jungle chase.

    The Liberty Bell (Edrich Siebert)
    KPM Music Ltd (now found at https://www.apmmusic.com/)
    Featured at the end of the first circus sequence after Bond drops off M at Checkpoint Charlie, just before Bond changes into the Octopussy Circus worker uniform.


    Jubilee March (Jack Trombey)
    De Wolfe Music Ltd
    Featured when the Octopussy Circus arrives in the US air base, just after Bond kills Grischka in the woods.
    https://www.dewolfemusic.com/search.php?id=27475363&code=2l3FNt

    Over the Waves (Edrich Siebert)
    KPM Music Ltd (now found at https://www.apmmusic.com/)
    Featured when Magda is holding the tiger cub in the circus tent and Gobinda gets fearful when some circus workers crash into the bomb-containing cannon with a large ball. Just after Bond declines a sausage from the Germans in the car.


    Entry of the Gladiators (Edrich Siebert)
    KPM Music Ltd (now found at https://www.apmmusic.com/)
    Featured when Gobinda leaves the bomb-containing cannon and signals for Kamal Kahn to leave the circus tent; Kamal apologises to the general and says he has to leave.


    Spotlit Sequins (Keith Papworth)
    De Wolfe Music Ltd
    Featured during a short clip showing the bomb timer, just before Bond passes Kamal and Gobinda in the car.
    https://www.dewolfemusic.com/JSON/getSiblingTracks.php?page=1&pagesize=100&aggregation=false&redirect=/search.php&track_id=137506&libraryType=1

    Dancing Plumes (Keith Papworth)
    De Wolfe Music Ltd
    https://www.dewolfemusic.com/search.php?id=27475203&code=tgQCdY
    Featured during the scene when Magda steals the General's wallet - Son of a gun!

    Gridiron March (William Loose)
    KPM Music Ltd
    Featured when Bond is evading police in the dressing up caravans


    Circus Circus (Paul Ruhland)
    KPM Music Ltd (now found at https://www.apmmusic.com/)
    Plays as the bomb-containing cannon is wheeled into the circus tent


    Clown In The Ring (Keith Papworth)
    De Wolfe Music Ltd
    Unsure about the exact placement of this one, but seems to be featured thoughout in several instances during the circus scenes.
    https://www.dewolfemusic.com/search.php?id=27475377&code=kWn0gl

    Downtown Parade (Keith Papworth)
    De Wolfe Music Ltd
    https://www.dewolfemusic.com/search.php?id=27475227&code=4sQJNC
    Featured after the bomb is defused, when Bond is looking around in the crowd just before the scene cuts to India.




  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    edited January 31 Posts: 1,368
    God! I'm so excited for these scores. There's a feel good factor about Bond music I can't describe.
  • Posts: 85
    As we near the release of the expanded Octopussy soundtrack from LaLaLand Records, for the completists out there I have located and matched up a series of source music tracks from the film.

    They make up mostly circus music, with a couple of exceptions. Have listed in full below - I think all are accurate. Some are sourced from the De Wolfe music library and the KPM Music Ltd library (now APM Music). Whilst the KPM music has been uploaded to YouTube, I am unable to track down a downloadable copy of all the De Wolfe music beyond the main link on their website.

    @Bond_Scores may be of interest for your Octopussy complete score write up in the other thread :)

    The Belle of Chicago (Edrich Siebert)
    KPM Music Ltd (now found at https://www.apmmusic.com/)
    Plays just after the title sequence as 009 flees from the circus as Mischka and Grischka give chase.


    Dramatic Drumming (M. Kansara)
    De Wolfe Music Ltd
    https://librarymusic.jp/dwlp306010/
    I believe this plays when during the jungle chase when Bond removes the leech and then is chased by the crocodile.

    Tom Tom Rhythms (Sy M'Boko)
    De Wolfe Music Ltd
    https://www.dewolfemusic.com/search.php?id=27475356&code=ou48UG
    Unsure of the exact placement of this one, but probably in the jungle chase.

    The Liberty Bell (Edrich Siebert)
    KPM Music Ltd (now found at https://www.apmmusic.com/)
    Featured at the end of the first circus sequence after Bond drops off M at Checkpoint Charlie, just before Bond changes into the Octopussy Circus worker uniform.


    Jubilee March (Jack Trombey)
    De Wolfe Music Ltd
    Featured when the Octopussy Circus arrives in the US air base, just after Bond kills Grischka in the woods.
    https://www.dewolfemusic.com/search.php?id=27475363&code=2l3FNt

    Over the Waves (Edrich Siebert)
    KPM Music Ltd (now found at https://www.apmmusic.com/)
    Featured when Magda is holding the tiger cub in the circus tent and Gobinda gets fearful when some circus workers crash into the bomb-containing cannon with a large ball. Just after Bond declines a sausage from the Germans in the car.


    Entry of the Gladiators (Edrich Siebert)
    KPM Music Ltd (now found at https://www.apmmusic.com/)
    Featured when Gobinda leaves the bomb-containing cannon and signals for Kamal Kahn to leave the circus tent; Kamal apologises to the general and says he has to leave.


    Spotlit Sequins (Keith Papworth)
    De Wolfe Music Ltd
    Featured during a short clip showing the bomb timer, just before Bond passes Kamal and Gobinda in the car.
    https://www.dewolfemusic.com/JSON/getSiblingTracks.php?page=1&pagesize=100&aggregation=false&redirect=/search.php&track_id=137506&libraryType=1

    Dancing Plumes (Keith Papworth)
    De Wolfe Music Ltd
    https://www.dewolfemusic.com/search.php?id=27475203&code=tgQCdY
    Featured during the scene when Magda steals the General's wallet - Son of a gun!

    Gridiron March (William Loose)
    KPM Music Ltd
    Featured when Bond is evading police in the dressing up caravans


    Circus Circus (Paul Ruhland)
    KPM Music Ltd (now found at https://www.apmmusic.com/)
    Plays as the bomb-containing cannon is wheeled into the circus tent


    Clown In The Ring (Keith Papworth)
    De Wolfe Music Ltd
    Unsure about the exact placement of this one, but seems to be featured thoughout in several instances during the circus scenes.
    https://www.dewolfemusic.com/search.php?id=27475377&code=kWn0gl

    Downtown Parade (Keith Papworth)
    De Wolfe Music Ltd
    https://www.dewolfemusic.com/search.php?id=27475227&code=4sQJNC
    Featured after the bomb is defused, when Bond is looking around in the crowd just before the scene cuts to India.

    Great job with this @chrisesqetc! I will certainly update the Octopussy section of my thread with all of this information.
  • morcarvicmorcarvic france
    Posts: 32
    clown in ring is a series of trombone motifs/squirts with end note of which the film uses two trombone motifs followed by end note.the placement for this edit occurs immeadiately after checkpoint charlie over cut to berlin circus with a clown performers face. also if i might add entry of gladiators is used again briefly after main titles prefacing belle of chicago and i think spotlit sequinss is faster alternate version.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Kicking: Impossible
    edited February 2 Posts: 6,721
    To add to the above:

    1) Tom-Tom Rhythms is heard in the jungle scene, before Dramatic Drumming.

    2) There are two Dramatic Drumming tracks, 1 and 2:
    https://www.dewolfemusic.com/search.php?id=27500420&code=oG3FI9
    https://www.dewolfemusic.com/search.php?id=27500423&code=2qz3Op
    I couldn't determine which one is in the film (if not both), so my playlist includes both.

    3) Per my playlist, Circus Circus Circus is first heard after Clown in the Ring and before The Liberty Bell. I don't remember specifics, but it's probably in the circus scene in Berlin.

    4) There is an orchestral hit heard several times in the circus scenes of the film, which remains unidentified.
  • morcarvicmorcarvic france
    Posts: 32
    mattjoes wrote: »
    To add to the above:

    1) Tom-Tom Rhythms is heard in the jungle scene, before Dramatic Drumming.

    2) There are two Dramatic Drumming tracks, 1 and 2:
    https://www.dewolfemusic.com/search.php?id=27500420&code=oG3FI9
    https://www.dewolfemusic.com/search.php?id=27500423&code=2qz3Op
    I couldn't determine which one is in the film (if not both), so my playlist includes both.

    3) Per my playlist, Circus Circus Circus is first heard after Clown in the Ring and before The Liberty Bell. I don't remember specifics, but it's probably in the circus scene in Berlin.

    4) There is an orchestral hit heard several times in the circus scenes of the film, which remains unidentified.

    would or could that be circus tumble by keith papworth also featured on 1967 de wolfe album the big top.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Kicking: Impossible
    Posts: 6,721
    morcarvic wrote: »
    mattjoes wrote: »
    To add to the above:

    1) Tom-Tom Rhythms is heard in the jungle scene, before Dramatic Drumming.

    2) There are two Dramatic Drumming tracks, 1 and 2:
    https://www.dewolfemusic.com/search.php?id=27500420&code=oG3FI9
    https://www.dewolfemusic.com/search.php?id=27500423&code=2qz3Op
    I couldn't determine which one is in the film (if not both), so my playlist includes both.

    3) Per my playlist, Circus Circus Circus is first heard after Clown in the Ring and before The Liberty Bell. I don't remember specifics, but it's probably in the circus scene in Berlin.

    4) There is an orchestral hit heard several times in the circus scenes of the film, which remains unidentified.

    would or could that be circus tumble by keith papworth also featured on 1967 de wolfe album the big top.

    I wasn't thinking of that music, but that actually could be the source of the drum roll heard in the film. I'll try to verify later.

    I was actually thinking of the brass chord heard at 1:01 in this video.

  • edited February 5 Posts: 39
    President of LaLa Land Records confirmed on FB over the weekend that Octopussy will go out around Valentine’s Day. There was a change of process at the CD manufacturer and they missed Octopussy off this due to the Holidays. I asked him outright whether they had others in the pipeline and he said no but that can change any time. When I jokingly typed *cough* Moonraker and View To A Kill please *cough* he loved the comment. Not too long to wait now for OP (plus LALD if you ordered them together).
  • If you are having trouble waiting, click on the track listings for OP on the LaLa Land website and some of the new music can be played (same for LALD).
  • dle1877dle1877 UK
    Posts: 1
    Hi. This is a great source for missing music - thanks to everyone who has contributed. There are a few links via picosong that no longer work. Does anyone have any alternative links for these pieces please? Thanks!
  • Posts: 85
    For those of you in possession of the LLLR Live and Let Die release (or those keenly anticipating it), here's the film version of 'Just A Closer Walk With Thee/New Second Line', which doesn't feature on the album. It's based on the track @chrisesqetc posted last month, but I've edited it so that the bridge and ending mirror what you hear in the film.

    I've also included the 2018 remaster of the main title, which has more bass and different panning. This was done by McCartney's team; I believe La-La Land Records weren't allowed to touch it and so the version on this release is the same as the one on the 2003 CD.

    https://mega.nz/folder/3YNWRSbb#T71thAttsZVUZhElYd9dUg
  • Order on LaLa Land from Xmas Eve just changed to awaiting shipment… OP must be about to be posted out
  • Update on website

    OCTOPUSSY CDs have arrived and will start shipping out to all who ordered it. All pre-orders containing this title will ship in the sequence in which we received them. We ask you please remain patient, as we have thousands of orders to fulfill and ship. You will receive a shipping confirmation e-mail once your order is on its way.

    We promise that we will be working hard and steadily to get these orders en route. Please remember that Monday is a holiday in the States and there is no postal shipping that day.
  • astansillastansill London
    Posts: 32
    For those of you in possession of the LLLR Live and Let Die release (or those keenly anticipating it), here's the film version of 'Just A Closer Walk With Thee/New Second Line', which doesn't feature on the album. It's based on the track @chrisesqetc posted last month, but I've edited it so that the bridge and ending mirror what you hear in the film.

    I've also included the 2018 remaster of the main title, which has more bass and different panning. This was done by McCartney's team; I believe La-La Land Records weren't allowed to touch it and so the version on this release is the same as the one on the 2003 CD.

    https://mega.nz/folder/3YNWRSbb#T71thAttsZVUZhElYd9dUg

    Thank you so much for this! Fantastic stuff!
  • The music playing when Bond walks into the Hotel bar as Kamal Khan is playing backgammon with the Major is missing from the OP soundtrack. It sounds like Barry-composed music.
    Am I wrong?
  • mattjoesmattjoes Kicking: Impossible
    edited March 9 Posts: 6,721
    mattjoes wrote: »
    To add to the above:

    1) Tom-Tom Rhythms is heard in the jungle scene, before Dramatic Drumming.

    2) There are two Dramatic Drumming tracks, 1 and 2:
    https://www.dewolfemusic.com/search.php?id=27500420&code=oG3FI9
    https://www.dewolfemusic.com/search.php?id=27500423&code=2qz3Op
    I couldn't determine which one is in the film (if not both), so my playlist includes both.

    3) Per my playlist, Circus Circus Circus is first heard after Clown in the Ring and before The Liberty Bell. I don't remember specifics, but it's probably in the circus scene in Berlin.

    4) There is an orchestral hit heard several times in the circus scenes of the film, which remains unidentified.
    Number 4 has now been released. It's included at the end of disc 1 of the new Octopussy expanded soundtrack. Turns out it was by Barry all along.

    I think the only piece of music that remains unidentified is the snare drum roll which we were discussing earlier. Speaking of that, I have since checked this:
    morcarvic wrote: »
    mattjoes wrote: »
    To add to the above:

    1) Tom-Tom Rhythms is heard in the jungle scene, before Dramatic Drumming.

    2) There are two Dramatic Drumming tracks, 1 and 2:
    https://www.dewolfemusic.com/search.php?id=27500420&code=oG3FI9
    https://www.dewolfemusic.com/search.php?id=27500423&code=2qz3Op
    I couldn't determine which one is in the film (if not both), so my playlist includes both.

    3) Per my playlist, Circus Circus Circus is first heard after Clown in the Ring and before The Liberty Bell. I don't remember specifics, but it's probably in the circus scene in Berlin.

    4) There is an orchestral hit heard several times in the circus scenes of the film, which remains unidentified.

    would or could that be circus tumble by keith papworth also featured on 1967 de wolfe album the big top.
    Unfortunately, I think it's not the one heard in the film. The snare drum sounds different.

    I know it's a rather generic piece of music but the completist in me would like to find out its name, assuming it's library music.


    The music playing when Bond walks into the Hotel bar as Kamal Khan is playing backgammon with the Major is missing from the OP soundtrack. It sounds like Barry-composed music.
    Am I wrong?
    It is missing, and I don't know if it's by Barry. Could be. It wasn't on the tapes they found for the new album. From written documents, they do know the original plan was for the scene to use the instrumental of All Time High.

    To rule out certain possibilities, it wouldn't be a bad idea to check if that casino music is part of the De Wolfe or KPM music libraries.

    For those of you in possession of the LLLR Live and Let Die release (or those keenly anticipating it), here's the film version of 'Just A Closer Walk With Thee/New Second Line', which doesn't feature on the album. It's based on the track @chrisesqetc posted last month, but I've edited it so that the bridge and ending mirror what you hear in the film.
    Thank you both!
  • @mattjoes if you want to have a crack at reproducing the backgammon game music from Octopussy, we’d all be extremely grateful 😉👍🏻
  • chrisesqetcchrisesqetc London
    Posts: 43
    mattjoes wrote: »

    The music playing when Bond walks into the Hotel bar as Kamal Khan is playing backgammon with the Major is missing from the OP soundtrack. It sounds like Barry-composed music.
    Am I wrong?
    It is missing, and I don't know if it's by Barry. Could be. It wasn't on the tapes they found for the new album. From written documents, they do know the original plan was for the scene to use the instrumental of All Time High.

    To rule out certain possibilities, it wouldn't be a bad idea to check if that casino music is part of the De Wolfe or KPM music libraries.

    Will get around to having a look on the library sites to see if I can find anything. My main blocker is how to describe the particular piece of music. Would you say it was piano jazz?

  • I think so - David Arnold got an acknowledgment on the OP CD label so I even tweeted him to see if he knew what it was
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