Bond 25 (and Beyond) directors you consider. This can be directors, second Unit Director or D.O.P.

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  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe JK ROFLing
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    bondjames wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    I think Demange would have been terrific but I think the news of him wanting to make a Ken Loach remake seemingly ruled him out. Demange seems to be going down a similar career route as Loach and he wants to make films about working class culture and modern day poverty. He has a great gritty and sincere approach that is very well-suited to that genre.

    It's a real shame though because 71 seemed to suggest that he could have been a great action director.

    I think Bart Layton seems most likely. Both his films have got rave reviews and he won a BAFTA. He's qualified.

    Anyone seen American Animals or The Imposter? Thoughts?

    This is kind off big news, no? The supposed frontrunner suddenly out of the race.
    It's not a surprise to me at all. As I mentioned earlier, they had him in their sights for a long time but never pulled the trigger for whatever reason. It just wasn't meant to be.

    I think it's Layton because he has the screenwriter expertise in combination with being a hotshot director - which is what they apparently are looking for.

    They are forced into a corner a bit, if sets are already being built as speculated. The director/writer they bring on won't be able to create their own screenplay from scratch, presumably. They also need to get rolling soon, so he/she will have limited time to prepare. It's tricky, and I recall Roger Michell passed on Quantum for this very reason.
    I agree.

    No doubt timing is a potential issue and consdieration. This is certainly a big catch for a relative newbie, but also is risky for their future reputation given expectations - screw it up and ones budding career can go down the toilet. If they need someone to polish an existing script, then perhaps Layton is preferred. If they need someone who can hit the ground running then maybe Clarkson suits things better due to her tv skills.

    I can see a case for either and they both can be marketable (Layton on account of his new buzzy film and Clarkson on account of being the first female director). Isn't Star Trek 4 in a bit of a limbo at present due to salary disputes? If so, Clarkson's schedule may be open.

    Presumably we will know soon enough.

    Or it could be a wildcard, right? Very intriguing times! ;)
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @Pierce2Daniel, Collateral was a fairly good production - nothing special and mind-blowing, but worth a viewing.
  • In this interview, Demange carefully sidesteps the Bond question. Essentially playing down his involvement in the film last year and any talk he could step into Boyle's shoes. It's not a denial:

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/yann-demange-talks-taking-white-boy-rick-his-acclaimed-debut-71-1141605

    Though the interview is from a few days before the Twitter reporter, so there's a chance that the Twitter guy is more up-to-date.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    In this interview, Demange carefully sidesteps the Bond question. Essentially playing down his involvement in the film last year and any talk he could step into Boyle's shoes. It's not a denial:

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/yann-demange-talks-taking-white-boy-rick-his-acclaimed-debut-71-1141605

    Though the interview is from a few days before the Twitter reporter, so there's a chance that the Twitter guy is more up-to-date.
    To me, this seems as though he's trying to distance himself from it and wipe the connection from the media's mind. I don't think he wants to be known as the guy who was so close twice.

    Now, if only we can get an interview with Layton or Clarkson...
  • The Telegraph on Clarkson – quoting Variety, so probably old news:
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/09/06/james-bond-producers-consider-first-woman-director-sj-clarkson/

    Clarkson has said she is interested in “taking the action genre and high-octane storytelling and making sure characterisation [is] at its heart”.
  • edited September 2018 Posts: 4,850
    bondjames wrote: »
    I think Demange would have been terrific but I think the news of him wanting to make a Ken Loach remake seemingly ruled him out. Demange seems to be going down a similar career route as Loach and he wants to make films about working class culture and modern day poverty. He has a great gritty and sincere approach that is very well-suited to that genre.

    It's a real shame though because 71 seemed to suggest that he could have been a great action director.

    I think Bart Layton seems most likely. Both his films have got rave reviews and he won a BAFTA. He's qualified.

    Anyone seen American Animals or The Imposter? Thoughts?

    This is kind off big news, no? The supposed frontrunner suddenly out of the race.
    It's not a surprise to me at all. As I mentioned earlier, they had him in their sights for a long time but never pulled the trigger for whatever reason. It just wasn't meant to be.

    I think it's Layton because he has the screenwriter expertise in combination with being a hotshot director - which is what they apparently are looking for.

    They are forced into a corner a bit, if sets are already being built as speculated. The director/writer they bring on won't be able to create their own screenplay from scratch, presumably. They also need to get rolling soon, so he/she will have limited time to prepare. It's tricky, and I recall Roger Michell passed on Quantum for this very reason.
    It´s not necessarily a director´s job to create everything from scratch. Maybe a number of directors prefer to do that, and those won´t like the given situation, but basically a director´s job is to direct actors according to dialogue written in a script. Especially a company as experienced with second and third units as Eon will easily be able to provide everything else.

  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    It's a shame that Demange decided to withdraw. @peter mentioned that after Boyle dropped out, Eon contacted Demange's reps and sent him the script. So he was a real prospect. I suppose either script wasn't for him or he had other things going on.

    I'm planning on watching The Imposter tonight, but I hear that it blends the thriller/documentary format very well. I'm just surprised I hadn't heard Layton's name before.

    Did anyone see SJ Clarkson's show Collateral? I found the trailer online, and must admit it does look very stylish:


    I enjoyed it a lot. Very slick and well acted. Mulligan is great. It's not exactly groundbreaking but it was very well-made. BBC drama output seems to be going from strength to strength lately.
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
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    S.J. 'circle shot' Clarkson copyrighted by a certain M. Bay
  • edited September 2018 Posts: 618
    It's a shame that Demange decided to withdraw. @peter mentioned that after Boyle dropped out, Eon contacted Demange's reps and sent him the script. So he was a real prospect. I suppose either script wasn't for him or he had other things going on.

    I'm planning on watching The Imposter tonight, but I hear that it blends the thriller/documentary format very well. I'm just surprised I hadn't heard Layton's name before.

    Did anyone see SJ Clarkson's show Collateral? I found the trailer online, and must admit it does look very stylish:

    I saw it 2 weeks ago. She seems very competent - even if I didn't saw any standout sequence - and also very good directing actors, but directing a Bond movie is a quite a leap.

    BTW, as Justin Kroll tweeted, we shouldn't consider McQuarrie and Wright 100% out of the run.
    I enjoyed it a lot. Very slick and well acted. Mulligan is great. It's not exactly groundbreaking but it was very well-made.

    Yep I agree.
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    matt_u wrote: »
    It's a shame that Demange decided to withdraw. @peter mentioned that after Boyle dropped out, Eon contacted Demange's reps and sent him the script. So he was a real prospect. I suppose either script wasn't for him or he had other things going on.

    I'm planning on watching The Imposter tonight, but I hear that it blends the thriller/documentary format very well. I'm just surprised I hadn't heard Layton's name before.

    Did anyone see SJ Clarkson's show Collateral? I found the trailer online, and must admit it does look very stylish:

    I saw it 2 weeks ago. She seems very competent - even if I didn't saw any standout sequence - and also very good directing actors, but directing a Bond movie is a quite a leap.

    BTW, as Justin Kroll tweeted, we shouldn't consider McQuarrie and Wright 100% out of the run.
    I enjoyed it a lot. Very slick and well acted. Mulligan is great. It's not exactly groundbreaking but it was very well-made.

    Yep I agree.

    I get Mcquarrie I am happy
  • Goldeneye0094Goldeneye0094 Conyers, GA
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    In this interview, Demange carefully sidesteps the Bond question. Essentially playing down his involvement in the film last year and any talk he could step into Boyle's shoes. It's not a denial:

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/yann-demange-talks-taking-white-boy-rick-his-acclaimed-debut-71-1141605

    Though the interview is from a few days before the Twitter reporter, so there's a chance that the Twitter guy is more up-to-date.

    Demange is obviously playing it coy at best why would variety a trusted outlet gossip and rumor? I think demange is the frontrunner for bond 25 and he's playing it alot more safe than boyle did.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    After all this time, we have to recognize that "confirmations" and "denials" from anyone in show business should never be taken as proper confirmations or denials.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited September 2018 Posts: 23,883
    Mackenzie commented a few days back:

    https://www.screendaily.com/news/outlaw-king-cast-and-crew-on-netflix-rollout-full-frontal-nudity/5132428.article

    On rumours that he is being courted to replace Danny Boyle as director of Bond 25, Mackenzie shrugged his shoulders, saying that he had only put Outlaw King to bed two days before its TIFF premiere screening. “All I can think about is taking a rest right now,” said the Scottish director. “I can’t answer anything about that.”'

    Not definitive either way.

    EDIT: I forgot he had already commented more comprehensively a few days back in a Hollywood Reporter story on having met only with Babs & P&W early on. That was posted on the Production thread last week and it slipped my mind.
  • edited September 2018 Posts: 4,395
    @Pierce2Daniel The miniseries Collateral is pretty good, but the reason it's pretty good is that it was written by two-time Academy Award nominee David Hare. TV is a writer's medium.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded Dancing at midnight under the BeBop Moon
    edited September 2018 Posts: 11,223
    Cavill as Bond? No, I don't see that at all. Michael Wetherby I like. But not for Bond either. You know what? I'm excited we still have Daniel Craig in this role. Yes, considerably. :)

    Directors - I am looking forward to news from EON. I don't mind a new, younger director.

    Nolan - I have always liked his work and if he can do a Bond film later, that is fine with me. It won't be Bond 25, though. Inception is my favorite film of his that I have seen (I have not seen all of his work). But the constant chat of Nolan has gotten rather old.

    I think a couple of members have said they are against a female director merely because she is ... a woman? I think I read that. That is so laughable. Some times I cannot tell if people are being sarcastic or not. But if serious: well, hell no that's a ridiculous thing to say.

  • mattjoesmattjoes Quantum of Moustache
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    After all this time, we have to recognize that "confirmations" and "denials" from anyone in show business should never be taken as proper confirmations or denials.

    I can confirm this.
  • Bart Layton could prove to be an inspired choice.

    I got around to watching ‘The Imposter’ and I have to say it’s pretty terrific. It’s an example of classic suspense filmmaking.

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    Layton only provides as much information as needed and shrouds the story in paranoia and mystery, slowly trickling information to the audience when necessary. Additionally, he isn’t afraid to imbue the story with a humorous and mischievous touch as well.

    I was very impressed with the overall approach to the story, which despite being a documentary interweaves filmed footage. The whole film plays like a thriller and the interview components have a sincere and honest quality to them. The characters are all sympathetic, despite being equally dubious and morally questionable.

    Meanwhile, Frédéric Bourdin (the central figure of the film) is at once disturbing and charming at the same time. Layton portrays him in a very layered and complex fashion, which I’m sure could provoke endless debate. There’s even a show-stealing turn from an American private investigator, who feels like he’s stepped straight out of a Coen brothers film.

    The actual narrative elements are very slick and stylish. The cinematography by Erik Wilson is beautifully handled and expressionistic. It has the feel of a David Fincher film at times. Meanwhile, it has one of the best thriller scores I’ve heard for a while.

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    I really recommend that people watch the film and avoid reading too much beforehand, as some of the twists are brilliantly handled.

    Layton’s the real deal. Perhaps a more accomplished filmmaker than Demange. I’m glad his name was added to the discussion, because I may not have seen this terrific film otherwise.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    MaxCasino wrote: »

    Not that it pertains to the thread, but that's incredible news.
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    Bart Layton could prove to be an inspired choice.

    I got around to watching ‘The Imposter’ and I have to say it’s pretty terrific. It’s an example of classic suspense filmmaking.

    Thanks, I'll check it out.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    Indeed, Layton has definitely got a good grasp on how to wrangle tension and anticipation from a story. I had already heard of Bourdain before I watched it, and I was still quite gripped throughout. It's a documentary, but treated the same way as a narrative film.

    Heard good things about American Animals. Though I'm a bit more biased on that front.
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
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    Erik Wilson dop work looks like more like Skyfall and parts of Spectre.

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    Looks like very much on circle of fire from QOS (maintitle) And SF (ice fight scene)

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  • MaxCasino wrote: »
    Aw, it's nice to hear that it was one of her best experiences.

    I still want a new Bond girl, though. Sorry Lea!
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    Danny Boyle would be brilliant. If only.....
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    Barbara, I'm begging on my knees, please read that very inspired comment above by @Pierce2Daniel and choose Bart Layton.
  • RC7RC7
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    Bart Layton could prove to be an inspired choice.

    I got around to watching ‘The Imposter’ and I have to say it’s pretty terrific. It’s an example of classic suspense filmmaking.

    large-screenshot-1.jpg

    Layton only provides as much information as needed and shrouds the story in paranoia and mystery, slowly trickling information to the audience when necessary. Additionally, he isn’t afraid to imbue the story with a humorous and mischievous touch as well.

    I was very impressed with the overall approach to the story, which despite being a documentary interweaves filmed footage. The whole film plays like a thriller and the interview components have a sincere and honest quality to them. The characters are all sympathetic, despite being equally dubious and morally questionable.

    Meanwhile, Frédéric Bourdin (the central figure of the film) is at once disturbing and charming at the same time. Layton portrays him in a very layered and complex fashion, which I’m sure could provoke endless debate. There’s even a show-stealing turn from an American private investigator, who feels like he’s stepped straight out of a Coen brothers film.

    The actual narrative elements are very slick and stylish. The cinematography by Erik Wilson is beautifully handled and expressionistic. It has the feel of a David Fincher film at times. Meanwhile, it has one of the best thriller scores I’ve heard for a while.

    screenshot_00003.jpg

    I really recommend that people watch the film and avoid reading too much beforehand, as some of the twists are brilliantly handled.

    Layton’s the real deal. Perhaps a more accomplished filmmaker than Demange. I’m glad his name was added to the discussion, because I may not have seen this terrific film otherwise.

    Glad you enjoyed it.
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    I'd settle for anyone at the minute the way EON have royally ballsed it's up. New producers needed please
  • I do wonder why Eon is taking their time. Surely getting someone onboard is important at this stage.

    I'm not surprised Boyle bailed. He already turned down a knighthood and threatened numerous times to quite the Olympic job if his creativity was stifled.

    The final three directors Eon were zeroing in on were revealed a week ago. Which means they have all surely met with Eon now.

    So a decision has to come this week?

    Despite reporting that they still intend to start filming in December/January, I think Bond 25 must be entertaining the prospect of a delay and 2020 release.
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    I still say 2019 is going to be the release date
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    I can think of a couple of interesting directors who could step in that fit Eon’s bill:

    James Marsh – He’s an Oscar-winning documentary filmmaker and he’s made a number of narrative films. I suppose the issue may be that his filmography is a little spotty. It goes from mawkish biopics to the recent disposal Michael Caine-Hatton Gardens film. Though he fits the bill of ‘esteemed Oscar-winner’ that Eon seem to be after.

    John Hillcoat – He’s made some strong thrillers in Australia and America. He’s directed an episode of Black Mirror. He’s a good action director, but he hasn’t quite had a breakthrough film yet. Bond could do that.

    Stephen Daldry – He seems like the natural successor to Mendes. He’s a British theatre director who broke through making Oscar-bait movies. He’s been nominated for an Oscar on numerous occasions. He isn’t afraid to flex his more populist reflexes either (he directed episodes of Netflix’s The Crown, and has been attached to a Stars Wars and Wicked film)

    Stephen Frears – Pretty much royalty in the British film industry. He’s a little dusty and old-hat these days. However, he’s a prestigious filmmaker who works quickly and competently. He has name-value but he’s not exactly an overly exciting suggestion.

    Justin Chadwick – He’s done a few meagre and earnest British films. He’s probably one big film away from breaking through.

    James Watkins – A good workman English director who has made a number of British horror and action films. He is probably looking for a Hollywood breakthrough role.
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    They are pretty much all the boring middle-aged white guys that I can think of at the moment…

    Personally, I think Eon have a pick between two directors. Both these two directors were far more suited to Daniel Craig’s Bond than Danny Boyle and I’ve been suggesting them for months:

    Steve McQueen – He’s a real talent and has Oscar clout. He has just directed a heist/thriller that looks very populist and is winning raves at TIFF.



    Lynne Ramsay – A terrific director who recently made a dark crime film that was a hit at Cannes.



    If Eon want Ramsay or McQueen, I’d be up for a delay if it meant a good film.
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