SKYFALL Trailers & TV Spots Thread

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  • Mostly everything leaked is exploited on YouTube these days anyway.
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    Supes007 wrote:
    Is it just me or did the trailer seem to imply that Silva is M's son?

    Uhm, no offense, but Duh. This has been the natural conclusion since the first press release about her "past" and all the secrecy around his identity, which is obviously a crucial point in the story. I just hope (pray) that the twist is not that Bond is actually her son and/or they are brothers. Go ahead, laugh, but Bond ends up at his family estate defending a couple pensioners (M and Albert Finney)...so what do you think that's about? The penny may be dropping for some of you, finally, that this is not a traditional Bond film of yore, but another Craig era twist. I'm using neutral language here and I am genuinely curious how audiences will react. I mean, I know it will be a hit, but how will more 'personal drama' play in this escapist franchise.

    Anyway, if it's a secret, EON just gave it away. Which would imply there's a further twist, as I say. And I guess explain that blonde hair.

  • VeryBond wrote:
    Supes007 wrote:
    Is it just me or did the trailer seem to imply that Silva is M's son?

    Uhm, no offense, but Duh. This has been the natural conclusion since the first press release about her "past" and all the secrecy around his identity, which is obviously a crucial point in the story. I just hope (pray) that the twist is not that Bond is actually her son and/or they are brothers. Go ahead, laugh, but Bond ends up at his family estate defending a couple pensioners (M and Albert Finney)...so what do you think that's about? The penny may be dropping for some of you, finally, that this is not a traditional Bond film of yore, but another Craig era twist. I'm using neutral language here and I am genuinely curious how audiences will react. I mean, I know it will be a hit, but how will more 'personal drama' play in this escapist franchise.

    Anyway, if it's a secret, EON just gave it away. Which would imply there's a further twist, as I say. And I guess explain that blonde hair.

    I think it's just Silva taunting 007 about the close relationship he has had with M, almost like a mother and a son.
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    Not so sure. Again, if you look at those other factors. There is at least some "adopted" maternal thing going on.
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    I kind of like the idea of YouTube being the place where the agents' names are leaked. It's very public. Fleming's books were always very in-tune with the times when they were written. I think Skyfall looks like a good benchmark for 2012.
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    Yeah I don't think Silva will be M's son, and if he is I think that's a pretty stupid idea that's just been shoved in to make it feel more emotional.

    I think Silva was just taking the piss out of Bond for his relationship with M, since in the last 2 films she's been like his mum. I don't like M being overused in the story again, but it could work. This is probably Dench's last film so for Bond 24 I hope we get a more straight forward Bond/M realtionship.
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    Yeah I don't think Silva will be M's son, and if he is I think that's a pretty stupid idea that's just been shoved in to make it feel more emotional.

    I think Silva was just taking the piss out of Bond for his relationship with M, since in the last 2 films she's been like his mum. I don't like M being overused in the story again, but it could work. This is probably Dench's last film so for Bond 24 I hope we get a more straight forward Bond/M realtionship.

    There is no way Silva is M's son. No way, no how. He's referring to Bond's relationship with M.

    I like M's relationship with Bond in Craig's films. I couldn't really care for it in Brosnan's. In Moonraker, the scene where M tells bond to 'take a vacation' gave me a smirk. I like that M trusts Bond, and know's the Bond is the best spy in MI6. I think this is what they're aiming for again in Skyfall.
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    Canada - unless you have read the entire script, don't tell me what is impossible. You want to speculate, fine, but don't declare anything from the mountaintop. I thought it was far-fetched myself, but you guys are either in denial or don't understand how screenwriting works. There is a THEMATIC REASON that the climax takes place at Bond's ancestral home and the movie is named after it AND
    The fact that M dies there
    . Jesus, the obtuseness on here...
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    edited July 2012 Posts: 40,473
    VeryBond wrote:
    Canada - unless you have read the entire script, don't tell me what is impossible. You want to speculate, fine, but don't declare anything from the mountaintop. I thought it was far-fetched myself, but you guys are either in denial or don't understand how screenwriting works. There is a THEMATIC REASON that the climax takes place at Bond's ancestral home and the movie is named after it AND the fact that
    M dies there
    . Jesus, the obtuseness on here...

    Either this is a slip up, you're incredibly misinformed, or you've just spoiled a very large part of the film for me. Spoiler tags are there for a reason, why is that so hard for people to comprehend? This is a topic on the trailers and TV spots, not a topic for the ending.
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    I'll put a spoiler tag on it.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited July 2012 Posts: 13,350
    @Creasy47, do you want to know which? Whether it's a slip up, being incredibly misinformed, or having a very large part of the film spoiled?

    I do agree, though, this is a TV Spot thread, that's in need of a clean up.
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    Samuel - do you work for EON? And why is it that no matter how much you post your counter stays at zero?
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    If I worked for EON do you think I'd be allowed to say?

    Honestly though, no, of course not.
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    You seem intimately in the know.

    What's with the counter?
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    VeryBond wrote:
    You seem intimately in the know.

    Just keeping up to date with the latest news, that's all.
    VeryBond wrote:
    What's with the counter?

    It always works for me.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    edited July 2012 Posts: 40,473
    Samuel001 wrote:
    @Creasy47, do you want to know which? Whether it's a slip up, being incredibly misinformed, or having a very large part of the film spoiled?

    I do agree, though, this is a TV Spot thread, that's in need of a clean up.

    I don't know. The thing he said about
    M dying in the end
    was the biggest thing for me, and I'm worried about knowing if it was right or wrong.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    Would you like to know whether it is right or wrong?
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Samuel001 wrote:
    Would you like to know whether it is right or wrong?

    Yeah, why not. I'd rather not have it hang on the edge for the rest of this three month wait.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited July 2012 Posts: 13,350
    Creasy47 wrote:
    Samuel001 wrote:
    Would you like to know whether it is right or wrong?

    Yeah, why not. I'd rather not have it hang on the edge for the rest of this three month wait.
    He's right. M dies at the end of the film in Bond's arms. That is the big twist ending to Skyfall.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Samuel001 wrote:
    Creasy47 wrote:
    Samuel001 wrote:
    Would you like to know whether it is right or wrong?

    Yeah, why not. I'd rather not have it hang on the edge for the rest of this three month wait.
    He's right. M dies at the end of the film in Bond's arms. That is the big twist ending to Skyfall.
    Well, I suppose I know now. Just a real shame I found out by way of massive spoiler, totally unhidden whatsoever. I'm incredibly pissed; not at you, just the fact I had no idea that that would happen.
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    VeryBond wrote:
    Samuel - do you work for EON? And why is it that no matter how much you post your counter stays at zero?

    Why so hostile? You're worse than some of my ex-girlfriends.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @Samuel001,
    now that I know the big twist ending with M's death, is there any other twists/surprises I can look forward to? That's pretty much the only big thing I know, aside from what we've seen in the trailers and what have you.
  • tqbtqb
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    Here's the theatrical trailer which is different than the international trailer
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    VeryBond wrote:
    Samuel - do you work for EON? And why is it that no matter how much you post your counter stays at zero?

    Why so hostile? You're worse than some of my ex-girlfriends.

    That wasnt hostile at all, just asking a question. If I sounded a little hostile with you, it was because you were totally dismissing my thoughts without knowing anything yourself. Maybe that's what your girlfriends objected to, I couldn't say.

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    Sorry, Creasy, I honestly believed everyone on here knew that detail months ago.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    VeryBond wrote:
    Sorry, Creasy, I honestly believed everyone on here knew that detail months ago.

    I had no idea, nor am I sure why everyone would know the ending. But, I know it now, there's no going back, and nothing I can do about it. Thanks for an apology.
  • marketto007marketto007 Brazil
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    @Creasy47 and @Samuel001
    But don't need to worry SO MUCH mate. In my opinion, M won't actually die, judging by the last scenes filmed on the rooftop of a building in Whitehall, with Eve giving to Bond a "box". I think this "box" contain some kind of confirmation from M, proving she's alive and well somewhere, but "missing" (like Bond in the beginning of the movie). This would give room to a new M, in this case, Mallory (Ralph Fiennes).

    ;)
  • VeryBond wrote:
    Supes007 wrote:
    Is it just me or did the trailer seem to imply that Silva is M's son?

    Uhm, no offense, but Duh. This has been the natural conclusion since the first press release about her "past" and all the secrecy around his identity, which is obviously a crucial point in the story. I just hope (pray) that the twist is not that Bond is actually her son and/or they are brothers. Go ahead, laugh, but Bond ends up at his family estate defending a couple pensioners (M and Albert Finney)...so what do you think that's about? The penny may be dropping for some of you, finally, that this is not a traditional Bond film of yore, but another Craig era twist. I'm using neutral language here and I am genuinely curious how audiences will react. I mean, I know it will be a hit, but how will more 'personal drama' play in this escapist franchise.

    Anyway, if it's a secret, EON just gave it away. Which would imply there's a further twist, as I say. And I guess explain that blonde hair.

    You make some very good points here. Silva could well be M's son, that isn't far fetched at all in context to the "Mommy" comment. But M and Silva related to Bond? That I can't see. Unless they are going to tell us a story that torpedoes everything Fleming wrote about his background and the death of Bond's parents, which in the past has been acknowledged by EON in at least one special feature on one of the UDVD's, can't remember which one it was on. I'm not buying "Mommy" means Bond is M's son or even that he's referring to their past relationship of CR/QOS until I see the movie. It's all a little too ambiguous to assume the worst case scenario you describe, although it is possible.

    What I'm thinking is that Bond takes M to his ancestral home for safety reasons and that Silva somehow finds out about it, especially if there is a high ranking traitor in their midst as they have alluded to. Or it could be that he is a computer specialist like Q and he hacks/intercepts a message from M/Bond to someone they know they can trust. Granted, the traitor can access Bond's file and may put 2 and 2 together for him. He confronts them there where he can find them, and not for some personal reason.


    As far as a "traditional film", I suppose it depends on what element(s) you consider to define traditional. We may have a Bond who's initially a little off his game and out of shape but certainly he's not going to be the rookie of the two prior films. If these "twists" make sense and tell a good story, it's certainly going to be more entertaining than the formulaic and cliched same old, same old of other eras.
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    Anybody know whether M's appartment is the same in Casino Royale, Quantum Of Solace and Skyfall? If no, why not make this every movie the same, for the sake of continuity?

    The same goes for the MI6 interior. Are we seeing the same spaces/rooms in Daniel Craig's Bond movies?
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @marketto007, thank you so much! Leaves things unsure for me, so now I won't know what to expect. ;)
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