Skyfall: Billion Dollar Bond

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  • edited January 2013 Posts: 11,119
    Another update of the 'Spy/Action Movies-list'. As of January 13th 2013, 'Skyfall' surpassed that other succesful film from 2008, 'The Dark Knight'! Christopher Nolan's 'The Dark Knight' got rave reviews and was prone to some unexpected media buzz. Something that has happened to 'Skyfall' as well.

    Also interesting to notice....'Skyfall' is bound to enter the TOP 10 of the 'All Time Worldwide Box Office Grosses Ever'-list from BoxOfficeMojo.com. 'Alice In Wonderland' ($1,024.3 Billion) and 'Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace' ($1,027.0 Billion) have been beaten by 'Skyfall' past week.

    Next stop for 'Skyfall' to become the first ever Bond film to enter this exclusive TOP 10 ranking will be 'Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides' ($1,043.9 Billion). Then the following stops until 'The Dark Knight Rises' ($1,081.0 Billion) will be 'Toy Story 3' ($1,063.2 Billion) and 'Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest' ($1,066.2 Billion).

    The box office figures for 'Skyfall' in China will certainly beat the mentioned movies above, making it a certainty that 'Skyfall' will end up at least on 6th spot on the 'All Time Worldwide Box Office Grosses Ever'-list. Also interesting to notice, excluding China box office figures, 'Skyfall' has already beaten 'The Dark Knight Rises': $1,032,863,00 for 'Skyfall' against $1,028,255,953 for 'The Dark Knight Rises'.

    Note for the reader: Take in mind that for, more or less, accurate comparisons, most of the below action/spy movies are produced in 1987 or later. Actually, most of them were produced after the 1990's. All movies in this list are 2D movies!

    Furthermore, I have updated the list in such a way now, so that you can also use it as a 'watchlist'. Movies with a '▪' are part of a spy/actionhero movie franchise. Movies with a '▫' are rebooted movies or remakes. Movies with a '∞' are based on previous tv-series.


    *UPDATED SUNDAY JANUARY 13TH 2013*:

    001) $1,081,041,287 -- 'Batman 8: The Dark Knight Rises' (2012) IMDB: 8.8
    worldwide gross (excl. China): $1,028,255,953
    domestic (US) gross: $448,139,099 - 41.5%
    foreign (rest) gross: $632,902,188 - 58.5%


    002) $1,032,863,000 -- 'JAMES BOND 23: SKYFALL' (2012, 80 DAYS IN CINEMAS) IMDB: 8.0 ▪
    DOMESTIC (US) GROSS: $299,363,000 - 29.0%
    FOREIGN (REST) GROSS: $733,500,000 - 71.0%


    003) $1,004,558,444 -- 'Batman 7: The Dark Knight' (2008) IMDB: 9.0 ▪
    domestic (US) gross: $534,858,444 - 53.2%
    foreign (rest) gross: $469,700,000 - 46.8%

    004) $825,532,764 -- 'Inception' (2010) IMDB: 8.8
    domestic (US) gross: $292,576,195 - 35.4%
    foreign (rest) gross: $532,956,569 - 64.6%

    005) $786,636,033 -- 'Indiana Jones And The Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull' (2008) IMDB: 6.4 ▪
    domestic (US) gross: $317,101,119 - 40.3%
    foreign (rest) gross: $469,534,914 - 59.7%

    006) $694,713,380 -- 'Mission: Impossible 4 - Ghost Protocol' (2011) IMDB: 7.4 ▪ ∞
    domestic (US) gross: $209,397,903 - 30.1%
    foreign (rest) gross: $485,315,477 - 69.9%

    007) $624,386,746 -- 'Hancock' (2008) IMDB: 6.5
    domestic (US) gross: $227,946,274 - 36.5%
    foreign (rest) gross: $396,440,472 - 63.5%

    008) $599,045,960 -- 'James Bond 21: Casino Royale' (2006) IMDB: 7.9 ▪ ▫ ∞
    domestic (US) gross: $167,445,960 - 28.0%
    foreign (rest) gross: $431,600,000 - 72.0%


    009) $586,090,727 -- 'James Bond 22: Quantum Of Solace' (2008) IMDB: 6.7 ▪
    domestic (US) gross: $168,368,427 - 28.7%
    foreign (rest) gross: $417,722,300 - 71.3%


    010) $546,388,105 -- 'Mission: Impossible 2' (2000) IMDB: 5.9 ▪ ∞
    domestic (US) gross: $215,409,889 - 39.4%
    foreign (rest) gross: $330,978,216 - 60.6%


    011) $543,848,418 -- 'Sherlock Holmes 2: A Game Of Shadows' (2011) IMDB: 7.6 ▪ ∞
    domestic (US) gross: $186,848,418 - 34.4%
    foreign (rest) gross: $357,000,000 - 65.6%
    012) $524,028,679 -- 'Sherlock Holmes 1' (2009) IMDB: 7.5 ▪ ∞
    domestic (US) gross: $209,028,679 - 39.9%
    foreign (rest) gross: $315,000,000 - 60.1%
    013) $478,207,520 -- 'Mr. And Mrs. Smith' (2005) IMDB: 6.4 ▪
    domestic (US) gross: $186,336,279 - 39.0%
    foreign (rest) gross: $291,871,241 - 61.0%
    014) $474,171,806 -- 'Indiana Jones And The Last Crusade' (1989) IMDB: 8.3 ▪
    domestic (US) gross: $197,171,806 - 41.6%
    foreign (rest) gross: $277,000,000 - 58.4%
    015) $457,696,359 -- 'Mission: Impossible' (1996) IMDB: 7.0 ▪ ∞
    domestic (US) gross: $180,981,856 - 39.5%
    foreign (rest) gross: $276,714,503 - 60.5%
    016) $450,717,150 -- 'Ocean's Eleven' (2001) IMDB: 7.7 ▪ ▫
    domestic (US) gross: $183,417,150 - 40.7%
    foreign (rest) gross: $267,300,000 - 59.3%
    017) $442,824,138 -- 'The Bourne Ultimatum' (2007) IMDB: 8.1 ▪
    domestic (US) gross: $227,471,070 - 51.4%
    foreign (rest) gross: $215,353,068 - 48.6%
    018) $431,971,116 -- 'James Bond 20: Die Another Day' (2002) IMDB: 6.0 ▪
    domestic (US) gross: $160,942,139 - 37.3%
    foreign (rest) gross: $271,028,977 - 62.7%

    019) $411,348,924 -- 'Batman 1' (1989) IMDB: 7.6 ▪ ▫ ∞
    domestic (US) gross: $251,188,924 - 61.1%
    foreign (rest) gross: $160,160,000 - 38.9%
    020) $397,850,012 -- 'Mission: Impossible 3' (2006) IMDB: 6.8 ▪ ∞
    domestic (US) gross: $134,029,801 - 33.7%
    foreign (rest) gross: $263,820,211 - 66.3%
    021) $383,531,464 -- 'Die Hard 4: Live Free Or Die Hard' (2007) IMDB: 7.4 ▪
    022) $378,882,411 -- 'True Lies' (1994) IMDB: 7.2
    023) $372,710,015 -- 'Batman 6: Batman Begins' (2005) IMDB: 8.3 ▪ ▫
    024) $371,397,565 -- 'Taken 2' (2012) IMDB: 6.6
    025) $366,101,666 -- 'Die Hard 3: Die Hard With A Vengeance' (1995) IMDB: 7.3 ▪
    026) $362,744,280 -- 'Ocean's Twelve' (2004) IMDB: 6.2 ▪
    027) $361,832,400 -- 'James Bond 19: The World Is Not Enough' (1999) IMDB: 6.3
    028) $352,194,034 -- 'James Bond 17: GoldenEye' (1995) IMDB: 7.2
    029) $352,114,312 -- 'Catch Me If You Can' (2002) IMDB: 7.9
    030) $341,433,252 -- 'Wanted' (2008) IMDB: 6.7 ▪
    031) $333,011,068 -- 'James Bond 18: Tomorrow Never Dies' (1997) IMDB: 6.4
    032) $321,731,527 -- 'Lethal Weapon 3' (1992) IMDB: 6.6 ▪
    033) $311,312,624 -- 'Ocean's Thirteen' (2007) IMDB: 6.9 ▪
    034) $300,428,192 -- 'The Expandables 2' (2012) IMDB: 7.1
    035) $293,503,354 -- 'Salt' (2010) IMDB: 6.4
    036) $288,500,217 -- 'The Bourne Supremacy' (2004) IMDB: 7.7 ▪
    037) $285,444,603 -- 'Lethal Weapon 4' (1998) IMDB: 6.5 ▪
    038) $278,346,189 -- 'The Tourist' (2010) IMDB: 5.9
    039) $277,448,382 -- 'xXx 1' (2002) IMDB: 5.7 ▪
    040) $276,144,750 -- 'The Bourne Legacy' (2012) IMDB: 6.9
    041) $274,470,394 -- 'The Expendables' (2010) IMDB: 6.5 ▪
    042) $264,105,545 -- 'Charlie's Angels 1' (2000) IMDB: 5.5 ▪ ∞
    043) $261,930,436 -- 'Knight And Day' (2010) IMDB: 6.3
    044) $255,000,211 -- 'Cliffhanger' (1993) IMDB: 6.3
    045) $259,175,788 -- 'Charlie's Angels 2: Full Throttle' (2003) IMDB: 4.7 ▪ ∞
    046) $240,031,094 -- 'Die Hard 2: Die Harder' (1990) IMDB: 7.1 ▪
    047) $230,685,453 -- 'Get Smart' (2007) IMDB: 6.6 ∞
    048) $227,853,986 -- 'Lethal Weapon 2' (1989) IMDB: 7.1 ▪
    049) $226,830,568 -- 'Taken' (2009) IMDB: 7.9 ▪
    050) $217,764,291 -- 'Collateral' (2004) IMDB: 7.6
    051) $215,887,717 -- 'Jack Ryan 3: Clear And Present Danger' (1994) IMDB: 6.8 ▪
    052) $214,034,224 -- 'The Bourne Identity' (2002) IMDB: 7.9 ▪ ▫
    053) $212,404,396 -- 'Entrapment' (1999) IMDB: 6.1
    054) $207,884,401 -- 'Safe House' (2012) IMDB 6.8
    055) $200,512,643 -- 'Jack Ryan 1: The Hunt For Red October' (1990) IMDB: 7.6 ▪
    056) $199,006,387 -- 'Red' (2010) IMDB: 7.0
    057) $193,921,372 -- 'Jack Ryan 4: The Sum Of All Fears' (2002) IMDB: 6.3 ▪
    058) $191,185,897 -- 'James Bond 15: The Living Daylights' (1987) IMDB: 6.7
    059) $178,051,587 -- 'Jack Ryan 2: Patriot Games' (1992) IMDB: 6.9 ▪
    060) $177,238,796 -- 'The A-Team' (2010) IMDB: 6.8 ▪ ∞
    061) $176,070,171 -- 'The Italian Job' (2003) IMDB: 6.9 ▪ ▫
    062) $170,268,750 -- 'Starsky And Hutch' (2004) IMDB: 6.0 ∞
    063) $167,645,000 -- 'Argo' (2012) IMDB: 8.3
    064) $159,330,280 -- 'The Jackal' (1997) IMDB: 6.1 ▫
    065) $156,491,279 -- 'This Means War' (2012) IMDB: 6.3
    066) $156,167,015 -- 'James Bond 16: Licence To Kill' (1989) IMDB: 6.5
    067) $153,178,000 -- 'Jack Reacher' (2012) IMDB: 7.2
    068) $143,049,560 -- 'Spy Game' (2001) IMDB: 6.9
    069) $140,767,956 -- 'Die Hard 1' (1988) IMDB: 8.3 ▪
    070) $130,786,397 -- 'Unknown' (2011) IMDB: 6.9
    071) $126,690,726 -- 'Law Abiding Citizen' (2009) IMDB: 7.3
    072) $124,305,181 -- 'The Thomas Crown Affair' (1999) IMDB: 6.7 ▫
    073) $120,207,127 -- 'Lethal Weapon 1' (1987) IMDB: 7.6 ▪
    074) $118,063,304 -- 'The Saint' (1997) IMDB: 6.0 ∞
    075) $115,097,286 -- 'Body Of Lies' (2008) IMDB: 7.1
    076) $104,391,623 -- 'The Tuxedo' (2002) IMDB: 5.0
    077) $101,191,884 -- 'The Recruit' (2003) IMDB: 6.5
    078) $099,965,792 -- 'Hitman' (2007) IMDB: 6.2
    079) $099,480,480 -- 'The Good Sheperd' (2007) IMDB: 6.8
    080) $098,159,963 -- 'Killers' (2010) IMDB: 5.2
    081) $096,105,964 -- 'The Manchurian Candidate' (2004) IMDB: 6.6 ▫
    082) $094,882,549 -- 'Green Zone' (2010) IMDB: 6.9
    083) $089,456,761 -- 'The Long Kiss Goodnight' (1996) IMDB: 6.7
    084) $085,416,905 -- 'Max Payne' (2008) IMDB: 5.7
    085) $082,087,155 -- 'Abduction' (2011) IMDB: 4.7
    086) $080,630,608 -- 'Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy' (2011) IMDB: 7.1 ∞
    087) $071,022,693 -- 'xXx 2: State Of The Union' (2005) IMDB: 4.1 ▪
    088) $070,692,101 -- 'Ronin' (1998) IMDB: 7.2
    089) $067,876,281 -- 'The American' (2010) IMDB: 6.4
    090) $065,977,295 -- 'Bad Company' (2002) IMDB: 5.4
    091) $060,965,854 -- 'Colombiana' (2011) IMDB: 6.2
    092) $060,222,298 -- 'The Ghost Writer' (2010) IMDB: 7.3
    093) $060,161,391 -- 'The International' (2009) IMDB: 6.5
    094) $056,308,881 -- 'Lucky Number Slevin' (2007) IMDB: 7.8
    095) $052,826,594 -- 'From Paris With Love' (2010) IMDB: 6.4
    096) $051,070,807 -- 'The Mechanic' (2011) IMDB: 6.5
    097) $050,732,945 -- 'I Spy' (2002) IMDB: 5.3 ∞
    098) $043,883,000 -- 'Red Dawn' (2012) IMDB: 5.7
    099) $041,771,168 -- 'The Informant!' (2009) IMDB: 6.5
    100) $033,372,606 -- 'Haywire' (2012) IMDB: 5.9
    101) $028,008,462 -- 'The Tailor Of Panama' (2001) IMDB: 6.1
    102) $027,664,173 -- 'Traitor' (2008) IMDB: 7.0
    103) $027,038,732 -- 'Rendition' (2007) IMDB: 6.8
    104) $024,188,922 -- 'Fair Game' (2010) IMDB: 6.8
    105) $019,924,033 -- 'Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever' (2002) IMDB: 3.5
    106) $016,933,380 -- 'Largo Winch 1: The Heir Apparent' (2008) IMDB: 6.4
    107) $015,705,007 -- 'Enigma' (2001) IMDB: 6.4
    108) $014,046,075 -- 'Largo Winch 2' (2011) IMDB: 6.0
    109) $008,112,712 -- 'Spartan' (2004) IMDB: 6.7
    110) $000,933,549 -- 'Michel Vaillant' (2003) IMDB: 5.0
  • edited January 2013 Posts: 1,098
    Well......looking through the box-office sources again, and other media reports relating to the adjusted BO figures for the Bond films, i can say this:-

    If you take the most recent reports, (as you have to to get the correct inflation figures), then it appears there is quite a variation in figures, ranging from the top Bond film 'TB' having an estimated gross in todays figures of anything between a little over $1 bill - $1.3 bill (thats quite a gap).

    the first example is the most recent list compiled with 'SF' added, but original list was compiled sometime ago, so figures may be on low side.

    Note: the author of this document, by adding SF to the list seems to of accidently deleted 'LALD'!

    http://cogerson.hubpages.com/hub/James-BondHis-Best-and-Worst-and-all-the-rest-Or-mathematical-proof-Sean-Connery-was-the-best-Bond-ever

    1/ Thunderball :- $1127.9 million
    2/ Goldfinger:- $1082.3 million
    3/ Skyfall:- $1billion + and counting.

    2nd example, which is at the high end, though if you were to apply BO Mojo's inflation method to their International grosses as per their domestic grosses, then you arrive at similar figure

    http://www.soundonsight.org/james-bond-by-the-numbers/

    This list was compiled earlier on in 'SF's release

    1/ Thunderball :- $1318.6 million
    2/ Goldfinger:- $1287.2 million
    3/ Skyfall:- $1billion + and counting.

    As we can all see now, there is quite a variation in figures, in fact no one really knows what the films of yesteryear would gross if released today....so i think a fair guess would be to take the medium of all the figures composed from the most upto date lists, and from that perspective the first list ive linked to here falls into that category!
    Hopefully this info helps!

    Anyway, for the time being we can definitely say that 'SF' is the biggest Bond film on the 'International' box office circuit ever.................but 'TB' is by a long way the biggest Bond film in North America, followed by 'GF'. 'SF' is now 3rd having surpassed 'YOLT'.

    In relation to actual profits made (ie box office to budget)......it appears that accolade could be 'GF's!

    Just one more week of small grosses for 'SF' before the launch in China, hopefully the film will gross a shed load of RMB there.....personally as others have stated here somewhere around the $50 mil mark will be great, anything more will be icing on the cake.
    I was supposed to be going on a trip to China in early Feb'....and was hoping to see 'SF' there....as i wanted to see how good 'DC's Chinese was!

    :)
  • Posts: 12,506
    Outstanding achievement! Congratulations to all involved! =D>
  • Posts: 1,098
    RogueAgent wrote:
    Outstanding achievement! Congratulations to all involved! =D>

    Thankyou

    ;)
  • edited January 2013 Posts: 11,119
    mepal1 wrote:
    Well......looking through the box-office sources again, and other media reports relating to the adjusted BO figures for the Bond films, i can say this:-

    If you take the most recent reports, (as you have to to get the correct inflation figures), then it appears there is quite a variation in figures, ranging from the top Bond film 'TB' having an estimated gross in todays figures of anything between a little over $1 bill - $1.3 bill (thats quite a gap).

    the first example is the most recent list compiled....

    http://cogerson.hubpages.com/hub/James-BondHis-Best-and-Worst-and-all-the-rest-Or-mathematical-proof-Sean-Connery-was-the-best-Bond-ever

    1/ Thunderball :- $1127.9 million
    2/ Goldfinger:- $1082.3 million
    3/ Skyfall:- $1billion + and counting.

    2nd example, which is at the high end, though if you were to apply BO Mojo's inflation method to their International grosses as per their domestic grosses, then you arrive at similar figure

    http://www.soundonsight.org/james-bond-by-the-numbers/

    This list was compiled earlier on in 'SF's release

    1/ Thunderball :- $1318.6 million
    2/ Goldfinger:- $1287.2 million
    3/ Skyfall:- $1billion + and counting.

    As we can all see now, there is quite a variation in figures, in fact no one really knows what the films of yesteryear would gross if released today....so i think a fair guess would be to take the medium of all the figures composed from the most upto date lists, and from that perspective the first list ive linked to here falls into that category!
    Hopefully this info helps!

    Anyway, for the time being we can definitely say that 'SF' is the biggest Bond film on the 'International' box office circuit ever.................but 'TB' is by a long way the biggest Bond film in North America, followed by 'GF'. 'SF' is now 3rd having surpassed 'YOLT'.

    In relation to actual profits made (ie box office to budget)......it appears that accolade could be 'GF's!

    Just one more week of small grosses for 'SF' before the launch in China, hopefully the film will gross a shed load of RMB there.....personally as others have stated here somewhere around the $50 mil mark will be great, anything more will be icing on the cake.
    I was supposed to be going on a trip to China in early Feb'....and was hoping to see 'SF' there....as i wanted to see how good 'DC's Chinese was!

    :)

    That's why I prefer comparing 'Skyfall' with more recent action/thriller/espionage blockbusters. 'The Dark Knight Rises' included off course...

    Still, when it comes down to calculations regarding inflation adjustments, I prefer to use the calculator and my own economic skills. I think that's why Samuel001 is using the simple 'adjustment calculator' to the 2012 prices.

    Concerning the websites you are referring too......please dig down in how they made their own calculations instead of simply seeing them as 'other valuable inflation adjusted lists'.
  • edited January 2013 Posts: 1,098
    Yes very true Gustav_Graves.....best to compare like with like.......

    Its quite an achievement for a modern Bond film to reach $1 BIL.

    I'am sure there are many members here, who only a few years ago would hope that one day Bond would do Harry Potter type BO business!

    In relation to BO adjusted lists..........why dont members here refer to Boxofficemojo's own calculations on inflation adjusted figures....yet quote thier figures for all other boxoffice related data?

    In relation to the charts ive linked to, the second one with the highest figures, goes into quite some detail on how these figures were obtained, and how in general most people obtain thier figures!

    Basically the difference in figures appears to be whether the charts were based on the 'CPI' (consumer price index), or on the increased ticket prices to see films. The fact is the cost of movie ticket prices appears to of gone up higher over the years then the 'CPI'. Therefore i suggest taking the middle ground between the 2 figures, probably may represent a truer figure....but who knows!
    Ticket prices are easier to understand as they are real figures and are actually what contibutes to a movies BO!

    As ive said before, look at all sources of information, before coming to a conclusion!
  • Posts: 2,491
    Celebration time ! WOO HOO <:-P (I'll celebrate every sunday :D )
  • Posts: 12,506
    I bet the "Craig not Bond" ers are furious with this success!!! ;) =))
  • Posts: 161
    RogueAgent wrote:
    I bet the "Craig not Bond" ers are furious with this success!!! ;) =))

    They will make up other excuses trust me to find a way of trying to kee their hatred of Craig going.

    What a achievement for Bond to hit the heights of it's 60's peak with a actor nearly half of the Bond fanbase taught was all wrong to end up probably the best Bond of the franchise give the films and the character a new lease of life.
  • Posts: 11,119
    Check this website: http://www.007james.com/articles/box_office.php. This website is using the methodology from the website http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/franchise/James-Bond, using the most recent Consumer Price Index (Inflation Adjusted) from the US Department of Labor. I especially like this graph ;-):

    8380349689_4804d66711_b.jpg
  • mdo007mdo007 Katy, Texas
    Posts: 259
    RogueAgent wrote:
    I bet the "Craig not Bond" ers are furious with this success!!! ;) =))

    I bet this will make em more mad:

    http://www.mi6community.com/index.php?p=/discussion/4576/daniel-craig-is-the-descendent-of-the-real-james-bond#Item_12

  • Data_ThiefData_Thief Banned
    Posts: 75
    Skyfall earning 1 billion dollars worldwide just goes to show you that world audiences don't know a well-crafted film from a hole in the wall.
    After Casino Royale being such a masterfully done film, and QoS maintaining the seriousness of Craig's portrayal of Bond, I expected skyfall to be a serious, gritty drama. Especially after hearing Sam Mendes would be directing. American Beauty being one of my favorite films, I expected Mendes to deliver a more eerie suspenseful feel to Skyfall. Sadly what I got was a film Mendes aimed for the audiences of 12 year olds. I do not wish to start a forum war with my opinions, but as being a lifelong Bond fan my whole life, I walked out of skyfall greatly disappointed and wishing I could get my money back. I have lost great respect for Daniel Craig for even accepting such a lousy script of pure laziness and stupidity.
  • Posts: 5,745
    Data_Thief wrote:
    Skyfall earning 1 billion dollars worldwide just goes to show you that world audiences don't know a well-crafted film from a hole in the wall.
    After Casino Royale being such a masterfully done film, and QoS maintaining the seriousness of Craig's portrayal of Bond, I expected skyfall to be a serious, gritty drama. Especially after hearing Sam Mendes would be directing. American Beauty being one of my favorite films, I expected Mendes to deliver a more eerie suspenseful feel to Skyfall. Sadly what I got was a film Mendes aimed for the audiences of 12 year olds. I do not wish to start a forum war with my opinions, but as being a lifelong Bond fan my whole life, I walked out of skyfall greatly disappointed and wishing I could get my money back. I have lost great respect for Daniel Craig for even accepting such a lousy script of pure laziness and stupidity.

    I think you do want to start a war, I just wished you had done it in the proper thread. Just because your disappointed doesn't make it a bad film. It earned it's Billion.
  • SandySandy Somewhere in Europe
    Posts: 4,012
    JWESTBROOK wrote:
    Data_Thief wrote:
    Skyfall earning 1 billion dollars worldwide just goes to show you that world audiences don't know a well-crafted film from a hole in the wall.
    After Casino Royale being such a masterfully done film, and QoS maintaining the seriousness of Craig's portrayal of Bond, I expected skyfall to be a serious, gritty drama. Especially after hearing Sam Mendes would be directing. American Beauty being one of my favorite films, I expected Mendes to deliver a more eerie suspenseful feel to Skyfall. Sadly what I got was a film Mendes aimed for the audiences of 12 year olds. I do not wish to start a forum war with my opinions, but as being a lifelong Bond fan my whole life, I walked out of skyfall greatly disappointed and wishing I could get my money back. I have lost great respect for Daniel Craig for even accepting such a lousy script of pure laziness and stupidity.

    I think you do want to start a war, I just wished you had done it in the proper thread. Just because your disappointed doesn't make it a bad film. It earned it's Billion.

    ... and critical acclaim, and the applause of hard-boiled Bond fans. The list can go on, but of course you can't please everyone, but Skyfall even came close to that ;)
  • edited January 2013 Posts: 229
    Data_Thief wrote:
    Skyfall earning 1 billion dollars worldwide just goes to show you that world audiences don't know a well-crafted film from a hole in the wall.
    After Casino Royale being such a masterfully done film, and QoS maintaining the seriousness of Craig's portrayal of Bond, I expected skyfall to be a serious, gritty drama. Especially after hearing Sam Mendes would be directing. American Beauty being one of my favorite films, I expected Mendes to deliver a more eerie suspenseful feel to Skyfall. Sadly what I got was a film Mendes aimed for the audiences of 12 year olds. I do not wish to start a forum war with my opinions, but as being a lifelong Bond fan my whole life, I walked out of skyfall greatly disappointed and wishing I could get my money back. I have lost great respect for Daniel Craig for even accepting such a lousy script of pure laziness and stupidity.
    So you are the only person who've got taste ?
    You do have an inflated opinion of yourself lol
  • edited January 2013 Posts: 11,119
    Data_Thief wrote:
    Skyfall earning 1 billion dollars worldwide just goes to show you that world audiences don't know a well-crafted film from a hole in the wall.
    After Casino Royale being such a masterfully done film, and QoS maintaining the seriousness of Craig's portrayal of Bond, I expected skyfall to be a serious, gritty drama. Especially after hearing Sam Mendes would be directing. American Beauty being one of my favorite films, I expected Mendes to deliver a more eerie suspenseful feel to Skyfall. Sadly what I got was a film Mendes aimed for the audiences of 12 year olds. I do not wish to start a forum war with my opinions, but as being a lifelong Bond fan my whole life, I walked out of skyfall greatly disappointed and wishing I could get my money back. I have lost great respect for Daniel Craig for even accepting such a lousy script of pure laziness and stupidity.

    I think, it is so wunderful to see that 'Skyfall' even attracts trolls like you ;-)? It simply shows how big 'Skyfall' is. I don't mind opinions underlined with truthful arguments. Let's see if I can find you more often on this great James Bond forums ;-).
  • Data_ThiefData_Thief Banned
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    To be somewhat positive I enjoyed it until Silva was introduced. But I will refrain from any negativity in this thread and continue any other opinion into the user review thread. Thanks!

  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    Posts: 13,350
    Just like D2K then. He also enjoyed the film somewhat until Silva was on screen...
  • Data_ThiefData_Thief Banned
    Posts: 75
    I'm sorry but can somebody please fill me in about this person I am continually being mysteriously accused of being? I am intrigued by the fact somebody els actually shares my opinions. Could somebody tell me where I may find this particular person ? Is "D2K" still around on the forums?
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,368
    Data_Thief wrote:
    I'm sorry but can somebody please fill me in about this person I am continually being mysteriously accused of being? I am intrigued by the fact somebody els actually shares my opinions. Could somebody tell me where I may find this particular person ? Is "D2K" still around on the forums?

    @Dressed_2_Kill was an annoying troll who constantly whined and complained about everything. He was full of conspiracy theories and had an ego that was way too massive. He, too, shared the exact same views as you - giving Bond a high-tech smart phone, hating SF when Silva was introduced, etc. - and he has returned with numerous profiles because he has absolutely nothing better to do with the free time spent dwelling in his parents' spare bedroom.

    Oddly enough, he seemed to link quotes from the same sources as you. Nah, of course, it can't possibly be you, D2K. That would be INCREDIBLY pathetic, if it was the case.
  • edited January 2013 Posts: 12,837
    Data_Thief wrote:
    I'm sorry but can somebody please fill me in about this person I am continually being mysteriously accused of being? I am intrigued by the fact somebody els actually shares my opinions. Could somebody tell me where I may find this particular person ? Is "D2K" still around on the forums?

    I called you @TouchMyButtons before, @Samuel001 was the first person to call you D2K. So you haven't been "continually accused" and you've just given yourself away.

    Wow I'd make a brilliant detective :P
  • Posts: 3,271
    Data_Thief wrote:
    I'm sorry but can somebody please fill me in about this person I am continually being mysteriously accused of being? I am intrigued by the fact somebody els actually shares my opinions. Could somebody tell me where I may find this particular person ? Is "D2K" still around on the forums?
    How's it going, troller?

  • edited January 2013 Posts: 12,837
    Is there some way the mods or anyone else could check and see if he's using the same computer/phone?

    Because he might not have made it as painfully obvious as the last few times he rejoined, but I think it's the same guy as @sexpoinage / @TouchMyButtons / @DRESSED_TO_KILL / @Dressed_2_Kill
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,368
    Is there some way the mods or anyone else could check and see if he's using the same computer/phone?

    Because he might not have made it as painfully obvious as the last few times he rejoined, but I think it's the same guy as @sexpoinage / @TouchMyButtons / @DRESSED_TO_KILL / @Dressed_2_Kill

    I just flagged him, and I summed up his comparisons in another thread just a moment ago. It's him.
  • edited January 2013 Posts: 12,837
    Although it's hilarious seeing him join and get banned repeatedly, it's getting pretty tiring now.

    @Data_Thief When are you going to get the message?
  • SandySandy Somewhere in Europe
    Posts: 4,012
    Although it's hilarious seeing him join and get banned repeatedly, it's getting pretty tiring now.

    @Date_Thief When are you going to get the message?

    Yes, it's not as fun as it used to be.
  • AgentJamesBond007AgentJamesBond007 Vesper’s grave
    Posts: 2,630
    @Data_Thief When are you going to get the message?

    He found out he was caught bare handed, so he left :))
  • Data_ThiefData_Thief Banned
    Posts: 75
    I'm sorry but I am sincerely confused?

    So if anyone even dares to give an unbiased opinion on skyfall they are considered a troll or this person you're accusing me of being, "D2K" ?

    If this is the way a new member is treated I'll gladly leave with glee. Thank-you
  • AgentJamesBond007AgentJamesBond007 Vesper’s grave
    edited January 2013 Posts: 2,630
    Data_Thief wrote:
    I'm sorry but I am sincerely confused?

    So if anyone even dares to give an unbiased opinion on skyfall they are considered a troll or this person you're accusing me of being, "D2K" ?

    If this is the way a new member is treated I'll gladly leave with glee. Thank-you

    No offense, but your posts were similar to that of a member, @Dressed_to_Kill, who was a troll giving conspiracy theories and porn on this website... So we made comparisons.
  • edited January 2013 Posts: 12,837
    He's already given himself away.
    Data_Thief wrote:
    I'm sorry but can somebody please fill me in about this person I am continually being mysteriously accused of being? I am intrigued by the fact somebody els actually shares my opinions. Could somebody tell me where I may find this particular person ? Is "D2K" still around on the forums?

    I called you @TouchMyButtons before, @Samuel001 was the first person to call you D2K. So you haven't been "continually accused" and you've just given yourself away.

    Wow I'd make a brilliant detective :P

    And he shares the exact same opinions as D2K (only DN, FRWL and CR are good, SF was good up until Silva, Bond should have a smartphone, etc). What a coincidence.

    I think he's realised now that if he lets everyone know he's back, he gets banned, so this time he's actually making an attempt to hide his identity.

    Looks like he's gone again now but he'll probably be back with a new account sooner or later.
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