Most Underrated Film

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  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
    edited April 2012 Posts: 13,842
    Ah Camilla Belle. One of my favourite actresses, so I like hearing Hammond say that she's ok.

    I'm listening to the soundtrack as I type.




    The first 3:30 minutes B-) .
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Seriously though I hardly think of either of the first two JP films as being underrated. They were quite successful, financially as well as critically. :)
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
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    HASEROT wrote:
    I was curious - we are all movie fans here... what is a film (outside of the Bond franchise) that you feel is underrated - a movie that you feel either doesn't get the respect it deserves, or performed poorly at the box office - or a combination of both...

    i have a few films that i feel are underrated, but because i am watching this one right now.... i'll go with....

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    it might not be Fincher at his directorial best - but, it's still a damn fine effort. It is beautifully shot, wonderfully acted - it's tense, full of suspense, and while it doesn't come right out and tell you who did it, it leaves you with enough of the dots connected that you pretty much figure out who the Zodiac Killer was.

    this film performed horribly at the box office - in fact - it bombed.... but it is NOT a reflection of this movie at all.. for those who haven't seen it, and for those who like smart, intelligent thrillers, then you'll like this movie.

    I actually think it is Fincher's best film and I remember it being very much acclaimed, no it wasn't a financial success but I bet it will be remembered long after some of the huge financial successes that year.
  • "The Power Of One" (Daniel Craig just happened to star in this - I believe it was one of hs first roles)
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    DarthDimi wrote:
    Seriously though I hardly think of either of the first two JP films as being underrated. They were quite successful, financially as well as critically. :)

    Prehaps not underrated, but during my travels around the net, I can't remember the last time that I saw it ranked on top of the 3 films, and/or spoken about favourably.

  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
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    DarthDimi wrote:
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    This one received such great comments and yet many folks I talk to seem to think it's not good. Granted, it works on a highly cerebral level in some scenes but I don't mind. In fact, I adore this film. To simplify things, let me just say that Nolan has yet to make any film that would disappoint me. Following, Memento, Insomnia, Batman Begins, The Prestige, The Dark Knight and Inception are all superb films in my book. Yeah I'm perfectly willing to accept that not everyone digs the cool and concise way in which Nolan tells his stories, but I'm one of those people who do love this kind of stuff. It's just great.

    Second only to Memento as Nolan's best, love it top film, brilliantly directed, acted and cast.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Ah Camilla Belle. One of my favourite actresses, so I like hearing Hammond say that she's ok.

    I'm listening to the soundtrack as I type.




    The first 3:30 minutes B-) .

    Hearing you talk about the beautiful Camilla made me think of this little beauty:
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    Not Hitchcock, but a damn good thriller. It is a very creepy film, and the atmosphere of the setting at the house is eerie. One of my favorite suspense type thrillers released in recent years, and one I would recommend. And Camilla is unforgettable, gorgeous as ever.
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
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    yes, i am a Rob Zombie fan - not only in music, but I also find his films entertaining as well.... while more mainstream audiences will only probably recognize him for his two Halloween films - it's his film THE DEVIL'S REJECTS that I believe stands out as his masterpiece (thus far).... not as horror based as his previous film House Of 1000 Corpses - it's hard to categorize this film into a specific genre, as it incorporates elements from horror, crime, and gangster/mob... with Rob's own personal touch of 70's exploitation and gauntlet of crude dialog - this truly makes for a unique experience..... the performances are actually quite good from top to bottom - and the way Rob makes you hate the killers at first, and then grow to actually (in a sick way) like them is truly remarkable....

    not to mention this film sports an amazing sound track..

    "Midnight Rider" by the Allman Brothers
    "Shambala" by Three Dog Night
    "Fooled Around and Fell In Love" by Elvin Bishop
    "I Can't Quit You Baby" by Otis Rush
    "Funk Number 49" by The James Gang
    "Rock On" by David Essex
    "Rocky Mountain Way" by Joe Walsh
    and of course.. "Free Bird" by Lynyrd Skynyrd

    definitely worth the watch for any horror/crime fan
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
    Posts: 13,842
    Ah Camilla Belle. One of my favourite actresses, so I like hearing Hammond say that she's ok.

    I'm listening to the soundtrack as I type.




    The first 3:30 minutes B-) .

    Hearing you talk about the beautiful Camilla made me think of this little beauty:
    3318601098_d4af9dbb95.jpg
    Not Hitchcock, but a damn good thriller. It is a very creepy film, and the atmosphere of the setting at the house is eerie. One of my favorite suspense type thrillers released in recent years, and one I would recommend. And Camilla is unforgettable, gorgeous as ever.

    I love that film, it's second only to The Balad Of Jack & Rose. :)
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    The Balad of Jack & Rose ! Been wanting to see that film for years !
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    DarthDimi wrote:
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    This one received such great comments and yet many folks I talk to seem to think it's not good. Granted, it works on a highly cerebral level in some scenes but I don't mind. In fact, I adore this film. To simplify things, let me just say that Nolan has yet to make any film that would disappoint me. Following, Memento, Insomnia, Batman Begins, The Prestige, The Dark Knight and Inception are all superb films in my book. Yeah I'm perfectly willing to accept that not everyone digs the cool and concise way in which Nolan tells his stories, but I'm one of those people who do love this kind of stuff. It's just great.

    Christopher Nolan is my favourite director of all time. I love all of his films too, he can create highly intelligent films that make you think and find something new on each viewing. A true inspiration for me.
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    Shardlake wrote:
    HASEROT wrote:
    I was curious - we are all movie fans here... what is a film (outside of the Bond franchise) that you feel is underrated - a movie that you feel either doesn't get the respect it deserves, or performed poorly at the box office - or a combination of both...

    i have a few films that i feel are underrated, but because i am watching this one right now.... i'll go with....

    <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v323/djx187/?action=view&current=zodiac.jpg"; target="_blank"><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/djx187/zodiac.jpg"; border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

    it might not be Fincher at his directorial best - but, it's still a damn fine effort. It is beautifully shot, wonderfully acted - it's tense, full of suspense, and while it doesn't come right out and tell you who did it, it leaves you with enough of the dots connected that you pretty much figure out who the Zodiac Killer was.

    this film performed horribly at the box office - in fact - it bombed.... but it is NOT a reflection of this movie at all.. for those who haven't seen it, and for those who like smart, intelligent thrillers, then you'll like this movie.

    I actually think it is Fincher's best film and I remember it being very much acclaimed, no it wasn't a financial success but I bet it will be remembered long after some of the huge financial successes that year.



    Totally agree, scary as hell. I felt unnerved for a few days after. The unknowing atmosphere was beautifully done. Loved it. Great date movie, no one will be want to be alone after this, and it will get you in for a cup of steamy hot strong milky sweet coffee.
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
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    @forgotmyusername

    i love the touch that Fincher has when using songs in his films - like "White Rabbit" in The Game... but I love the use of "Hurdy Gurdy Man" in Zodiac, at the beginning with the shooting of the young girl and boy....

    i also love the part when Gylenhall's character is in that guy's basement - really tense and scary moment.
  • edited June 2013 Posts: 1,310
    It's been awhile for this thread, hasn't it?

    I'm going to nominate the Director's Edition of...

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    I'm just beginning to watch the Star Trek films for the first time, and I quite enjoyed the first entry in the series. I know it gets a lot of slack for being 'The Motionless Picture,' and while the film can be tediously sluggish, I find the story to be very interesting. A slow burn for sure, but I'm a big fan of sci-fi, so I'd recommend the director's edition to anyone who is a fan of 2001: A Space Odyssey.

    Some other underrated films to me:

    - Temple of Doom and (to a lesser extent) Crystal Skull
    - Scream 2
    - Die Hard 2
    - JCVD (a lot of praise, but I still consider it to be....by an INCREDIBLY large margin....Van Damme's best film)
  • QsAssistantQsAssistant All those moments lost in time... like tears in rain
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    SJK91 wrote:
    It's been awhile for this thread, hasn't it?

    I'm going to nominate the Director's Edition of...

    Star+Trek+1.jpg

    I'm just beginning to watch the Star Trek films for the first time, and I quite enjoyed the first entry in the series. I know it gets a lot of slack for being 'The Motionless Picture,' and while the film can be tediously sluggish, I find the story to be very interesting. A slow burn for sure, but I'm a big fan of sci-fi, so I'd recommend the director's edition to anyone who is a fan of 2001: A Space Odyssey.

    Some other underrated films to me:

    - Temple of Doom and (to a lesser extent) Crystal Skull
    - Scream 2
    - Die Hard 2
    - JCVD (a lot of praise, but I still consider it to be....by an INCREDIBLY large margin....Van Damme's best film)

    I'm a big sci-fi fan and I don't like 2001: A Space Odyssey; it's almost like watching water boil. Star Trek The Motion Picture isn't a horrible film but it is by far the worst of all the Star Trek movies (of the ones I've seen anyway).
    I think Temple of Doom is the one the people like the most next to The Last Crusade. Crystal Skull is an underrated film that I enjoy very much so. Scream 2 is probably my favorite out of that franchise but Die Hard 2 is one that I like to ignore. As for JCVD I agree 100% with you. It's not one that I would own but it's one that I recommend when people say Van Damme can't act. The part when he was talking to God and started crying all in one shot was a beautiful scene.
  • edited June 2013 Posts: 1,310
    SJK91 wrote:
    It's been awhile for this thread, hasn't it?

    I'm going to nominate the Director's Edition of...

    Star+Trek+1.jpg

    I'm just beginning to watch the Star Trek films for the first time, and I quite enjoyed the first entry in the series. I know it gets a lot of slack for being 'The Motionless Picture,' and while the film can be tediously sluggish, I find the story to be very interesting. A slow burn for sure, but I'm a big fan of sci-fi, so I'd recommend the director's edition to anyone who is a fan of 2001: A Space Odyssey.

    Some other underrated films to me:

    - Temple of Doom and (to a lesser extent) Crystal Skull
    - Scream 2
    - Die Hard 2
    - JCVD (a lot of praise, but I still consider it to be....by an INCREDIBLY large margin....Van Damme's best film)

    I'm a big sci-fi fan and I don't like 2001: A Space Odyssey; it's almost like watching water boil. Star Trek The Motion Picture isn't a horrible film but it is by far the worst of all the Star Trek movies (of the ones I've seen anyway).
    I think Temple of Doom is the one the people like the most next to The Last Crusade. Crystal Skull is an underrated film that I enjoy very much so. Scream 2 is probably my favorite out of that franchise but Die Hard 2 is one that I like to ignore. As for JCVD I agree 100% with you. It's not one that I would own but it's one that I recommend when people say Van Damme can't act. The part when he was talking to God and started crying all in one shot was a beautiful scene.
    While I personally do like 2001, I understand some of the apprehension towards its pacing.

    As far as Star Trek, I'm working through those movies as we speak (I have just completed Star Trek III), but I found The Motion Picture to be a fair deal better than The Search for Spock. I really liked the story to TMP, but once again understand it's not a film with immediate appeal - hence underrated-ness! ;)

    But I'm certainly happy to hear your appreciation for JCVD.
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  • QsAssistantQsAssistant All those moments lost in time... like tears in rain
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    I don't know if this one is underrated or just unheard of but it's a great film! Definitely one of my favorite movies. You don't have to be a Star Wars fan to enjoy this film. It has comedy and heart.

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    To quote Harrison Ford, "I like stupid." Every time I watch this film it puts a smile on my face; you just can't take it seriously.



  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    edited July 2013 Posts: 12,459
    Underrated film? The American starring George Clooney, definitely. I just LOVE this film and it was very much under the radar. Got some critical acclaim but that's it. A slow moving, interesting piece. I highly recommend this movie!

    I'd post a picture but am unsure how to do that ... or rather I think I used to be able to, but I cannot paste anything any more. Hope that glitch is solved soon. I'll try to put in a link to a picture from the movie:

    http://jamesblackswriting.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/the-american.jpg

    http://cinema.nanopress.it/fotogallery/the-american-scene-del-film-con-george-clooney_4739_5.html This one is in Italian; has some nice photos from the mvoie.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @4EverBonded, I loved 'The American,' ended up getting to see it in theaters. But, you are right, it's incredibly slow moving, and really isn't a film for most people.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    edited July 2013 Posts: 12,459
    It's not - folks want action, and I think audiences expected an action spy flick. It is so very slow moving, a character study. I loved it and Clooney's performance, along with lovely Italian actress (I need to look up her name). Just looked it up: her name is Violante Placido.
  • edited July 2013 Posts: 12,823
    JCVD was brilliant, the speech he makes where he breaks the 4th wall is heartbreaking.

    Van Damme should've won an Oscar.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    It's not - folks want action, and I think audiences expected an action spy flick. It is so very slow moving, a character study. I loved it and Clooney's performance, along with lovely Italian actress (I need to look up her name). Just looked it up: her name is Violante Placido.

    If there isn't an explosion every minute, then a majority of people will hate it and find it dull. It was indeed a great character study and I loved seeing the little tidbits of Clooney's routine and life throughout. My only complaint:
    The ambiguity in his death! I came to really love his character throughout, and not knowing if he ended up with the woman in the end and survived or not upsets me. Still, it's a fantastic piece.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Creasy47 wrote:
    The ambiguity in his death! I came to really love his character throughout, and not knowing if he ended up with the woman in the end and survived or not upsets me. Still, it's a fantastic piece.
    What??? Holy crud, I'm spoiled!!!
    :((
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @chrisisall, is that sarcasm or something? I added a spoiler tag. You had to click to see what I said.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Creasy47 wrote:
    @chrisisall, is that sarcasm or something? I added a spoiler tag. You had to click to see what I said.
    I'm sorry, if it says "show" I have to click on it. I have ICD*.


    *Internet compulsive disorder.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    'Bond 24' will be directed by Sam Mendes.

    Apologies!
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Creasy47 wrote:
    'Bond 24' will be directed by Sam Mendes.

    Apologies!
    Hahahahaha!!

    :))
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    edited July 2013 Posts: 28,694
    Underrated film? The American starring George Clooney, definitely. I just LOVE this film and it was very much under the radar. Got some critical acclaim but that's it. A slow moving, interesting piece. I highly recommend this movie!

    I'd post a picture but am unsure how to do that ... or rather I think I used to be able to, but I cannot paste anything any more. Hope that glitch is solved soon. I'll try to put in a link to a picture from the movie:

    http://jamesblackswriting.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/the-american.jpg

    http://cinema.nanopress.it/fotogallery/the-american-scene-del-film-con-george-clooney_4739_5.html This one is in Italian; has some nice photos from the mvoie.

    @4EverBonded, I loooooooooooooove The American! The first time I saw it in theaters a few years back I don't think I cared too much for it, and it is definitely an acquired taste. As I began getting more and more into older films afterwards (especially ones that made you think to get to the heart of what the film was saying), I returned to this film and really loved it, having since re-watched it even more.

    The direction is brilliant, with some of the most startlingly beautiful cinematography I have seen in recent times. Clooney does a very hard job by making such a silent character interesting and relatable. The hardest roles are those that require the least dialogue, because all you really have to help you convey a sense of depth to the audience is in your subtle mannerisms and overall physical performance, something I think George did in spades. His character is so interesting, and his overall personality and emotions from his coldness, anger, fear, happiness and more are brilliant to watch play out and change from scene to scene. Castel del Monte is a gorgeous and haunting location, with the dark, barely lit night shots inducing massive paranoia as we grow as wary as Jack when we wonder who is watching him from the shadows. Goodness, what a film! Definitely a hyper-underrated film. Some hate it for its dull plot, but for me watching a character study on a spy-type character dealing with the repercussions and dangers of his job all while being conflicted with
    the love of a mysterious woman, paranoia, a target on his head
    and so much more keeps my eyes glued to the screen! Every time I see it again I catch something new or wonder about a different part of it, and do plan on writing some film analyses of it sometime as it really interests me as a whole. I highly recommend this film, as I have done many times before on here. But please go into it blind as can be, because that is important. The surprises are the best part.

    I believe our own @JWESTBROOK is also a fan of this film, if my memory continues to suit me.
    Creasy47 wrote:
    My only complaint:
    The ambiguity in his death! I came to really love his character throughout, and not knowing if he ended up with the woman in the end and survived or not upsets me. Still, it's a fantastic piece.
    I don't think it is that ambiguous.

    We see the massive amount of blood coming out of Jack, the look of death literally in his eyes, and as his head hits the steering wheel we see a butterfly ascending into the light of the sky-symbolically because Clara called him "Mr. Butterfly." I think it is safe to assume that he is dead.
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