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  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    NapoleonPlural wrote:
    That dialogue with Bond and Jinx is the stuff of nightmares and the only time I have felt physically sick when watching a film

    "We can't make Napoleon Plural talk; he's an A.U.N.T.I.E. agent!"
    "I'll hold his head, you put Die Another Day in the player- he'll talk all right...!"
  • GetafixGetafix
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    I heard they show DAD to the inmates at Guantanamo Bay. By the time the PTS has finished they're usually begging for another water boarding.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Getafix wrote:
    I heard they show DAD to the inmates at Guantanamo Bay. By the time the PTS has finished they're usually begging for another water boarding.

    To be fair. Die Another Day has a pretty good Pre Title Sequence.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Murdock wrote:
    Getafix wrote:
    I heard they show DAD to the inmates at Guantanamo Bay. By the time the PTS has finished they're usually begging for another water boarding.

    To be fair. Die Another Day has a pretty good Pre Title Sequence.

    Now, the CGI parasailing scene on loop is a different story...

  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Creasy47 wrote:
    the CGI parasailing scene on loop is a different story...
    The VR Moneypenny scene has most victims screaming. It's been nicknamed "The Dry Waterboard." Most effective.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Creasy47 wrote:
    Murdock wrote:
    Getafix wrote:
    I heard they show DAD to the inmates at Guantanamo Bay. By the time the PTS has finished they're usually begging for another water boarding.

    To be fair. Die Another Day has a pretty good Pre Title Sequence.

    Now, the CGI parasailing scene on loop is a different story...

    The only good thing I can say about that scene is it had a really great version of the Bond theme playing... Skip to 3:55

  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Oh, I still enjoy the movie, but that VR scene was just too far. It made the Vanish seem perfectly okay.
  • CraigisnotbondCraigisnotbond
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    #4 on my list
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Craigisnotbond wrote:
    #4 on my list
    Of movies you hate? Or like?
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    chrisisall wrote:
    Oh, I still enjoy the movie, but that VR scene was just too far. It made the Vanish seem perfectly okay.

    You still mean the VR MP scene, right? If so, agreed. Totally killed the relationship between the two with that scene, and it still pisses me off. I thought the VR fight that Bond has when he's 're-hired' was cool, albeit heavily scripted.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    @Creasy47 yes to both. :)>-
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I don't know why, but the shot of Bond ejecting the magazine and slapping another one in without looking at the P99 at all was excellent, just shows how calculating and talented the man is.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    I like the car more than the VR thing. The car, at least, seems to be coming closer to reality than most of us realise. But the VR stuff is bogus. Even if it were possible in a practical sense, what's the point? Your agent is supposed to come back after over a year of brutal torture and imprisonment. Don't you think you need to get him in the field, run an obstacle course, perform shooting practice (like what we see in SF) but with real bullets? In a VR world, anything goes. You know it's not real so you can let your guard down. You can take more risks, unhindered by an actual sense of fear. That's ridiculous. The scene itself is pretty cool, I must admit. So had they taken M and Robinson out of it, and not told me about the VR goggles, I might have given DAD points for this scene, rather than take points away. This stuff belongs in a video game.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    I always thought the VR scene was a homage to the TWINE N64 game where a similar situation happens with terrorists invading MI6 and even holding up M at one point.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Murdock wrote:
    I always thought the VR scene was a homage to the TWINE N64 game where a similar situation happens with terrorists invading MI6 and even holding up M at one point.

    I loved that mission, but (and I don't think you're implying this) that wasn't a VR scene, it really happened. It's just Cigar Girl attacking the place, only more men are involved to give it a proper shooting mission. I loved blasting the guys coming down the sides and watching them fall past the windows before they broke in.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    @Creasy47, No I wasn't implying the level was a VR mission. I just meant that DAD's VR sequence was very similar to it. :P
  • BAIN123BAIN123
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    I remember that level:

  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Murdock wrote:
    @Creasy47, No I wasn't implying the level was a VR mission. I just meant that DAD's VR sequence was very similar to it. :P

    Ohh, okay, apologies, and indeed it was! The whole mission is an extended version of the scene in TWINE, with the gunfight goodness of the VR scene in DAD. It's great.
  • jobojobo
    edited June 2014 Posts: 7,500
    When your film, either intentionally or unintentionally, remind you of computer games, you have done something seriously wrong...
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    Murdock wrote:
    I always thought the VR scene was a homage to the TWINE N64 game where a similar situation happens with terrorists invading MI6 and even holding up M at one point.

    An homage to a videogame? It makes DAD even worse than I always considered it to be.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Ludovico wrote:
    Murdock wrote:
    I always thought the VR scene was a homage to the TWINE N64 game where a similar situation happens with terrorists invading MI6 and even holding up M at one point.

    An homage to a videogame? It makes DAD even worse than I always considered it to be.

    I wouldn't consider TWINE for the N64 bad. In fact it was rather fun. Not as good as GoldenEye 64 or Nightfire for that, but a fun game none the less.
  • BAIN123BAIN123
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    Ludovico wrote:
    Murdock wrote:
    I always thought the VR scene was a homage to the TWINE N64 game where a similar situation happens with terrorists invading MI6 and even holding up M at one point.

    An homage to a videogame? It makes DAD even worse than I always considered it to be.

    That's not the first time Bonds played a video game in his history though if you also include NSNA.
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    Murdock wrote:
    Ludovico wrote:
    Murdock wrote:
    I always thought the VR scene was a homage to the TWINE N64 game where a similar situation happens with terrorists invading MI6 and even holding up M at one point.

    An homage to a videogame? It makes DAD even worse than I always considered it to be.

    I wouldn't consider TWINE for the N64 bad. In fact it was rather fun. Not as good as GoldenEye 64 or Nightfire for that, but a fun game none the less.

    I don't care. You don't make homage to videogame in a Bond movie, period.
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    BAIN123 wrote:
    Ludovico wrote:
    Murdock wrote:
    I always thought the VR scene was a homage to the TWINE N64 game where a similar situation happens with terrorists invading MI6 and even holding up M at one point.

    An homage to a videogame? It makes DAD even worse than I always considered it to be.

    That's not the first time Bonds played a video game in his history though if you also include NSNA.

    And it was ridiculous in NSNA.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    It was the worst thing about NSNA. Besides Nigel Small-Fawcett.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Ludovico wrote:
    Murdock wrote:
    Ludovico wrote:
    Murdock wrote:
    I always thought the VR scene was a homage to the TWINE N64 game where a similar situation happens with terrorists invading MI6 and even holding up M at one point.

    An homage to a videogame? It makes DAD even worse than I always considered it to be.

    I wouldn't consider TWINE for the N64 bad. In fact it was rather fun. Not as good as GoldenEye 64 or Nightfire for that, but a fun game none the less.

    I don't care. You don't make homage to videogame in a Bond movie, period.

    Could be worse...they could have payed homage to CR 67... :-S
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    edited June 2014 Posts: 11,189
    Thunderfinger wrote:
    It was the worst thing about NSNA. Besides Nigel Small-Fawcett.

    Rowan Atkinson would play the same character with a different name 2 decades later in Johnny English.

    Regarding the VR sequence, I'm not sure about the TWINE link but I do remember Lee Tamahori saying in the audio commentary that he wanted it to have a video game feel (the camera only focusing on the upper body, Brosnan's quick movements, the way he reloads the gun quickly etc).
  • AstonLotusAstonLotus
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    I love the VR goggles scenes.Especially when Moneypenny uses them at the end,One of the funniest scenes of any Bond movie!
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    edited June 2014 Posts: 11,189
    AstonLotus wrote:
    I love the VR goggles scenes.Especially when Moneypenny uses them at the end,One of the funniest scenes of any Bond movie!

    The first bit when Bond walks in is amusing but the exchange:

    "Its rather hard isn't it?"
    "Yes...very"

    is pretty awful.

    We get it. THE JOKE IS ABOUT BOND'S PENIS!!
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    AstonLotus wrote:
    I love the VR goggles scenes.Especially when Moneypenny uses them at the end,One of the funniest scenes of any Bond movie!
    I absolutely loath that scene. I skip it.
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