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Sure is. This is the fukunaga bashing thread.
:)) Fukunaga Appreciation Bashing Thread
I still give him credit for his good work on True Detective.
I've said it countless times before but if we didn't watch certain films or shows because of what a particular person attached to the project was accused or guilty of, there'd be almost nothing left to enjoy anymore.
American Beauty is one of my favorite movies, and it’s partly due to Kevin Spacey’s performance. He’s better in the movie than say,Chevy Chase, who was seriously considered for Lester. And he’s a big of a dick than anyone who we’ve talked about.
It's also one of my favorites. Kevin Spacey is fantastic in it and he's an incredible actor in general. I'm still capable of enjoying his performances across the board without having to like the man himself.
I had no idea that Chase was almost selected for that role, though. That's interesting.
Did someone say we shouldn’t see works by controversial figures? Because I disagree with that. For example I’m fine with watching Tom Cruise movies while knowing he’s likely a monster.
The difference with Cary this time around, from what I can gather so far, is that the relationships were consensual, he didn't force anything on the women at any time, and was just not great at communicating with the women he was with in careful, understanding and decent ways. So, a creep? Yes. A bit of a dick? Absolutely. The devil? I think the jury's still in on that one. What does bother me, as it always does in these situations, is why these women stayed with him for so long if they had such mounting issues about his behavior? If he wasn't a good guy, or things weren't working out, why stay with him? He didn't have a gun to any of their heads, so I just don't get why all the fire comes his way when there was some bad communication and poor decision making on the other side as well. And I don't want to hear that I'm "victim blaming," or anything ridiculous like that. Relationships are a two-way street, and when things don't work out but neither side fight for a peaceful and healthy split, it's an issue on both sides.
Clearly Cary has some issues he needs to work through when it comes to controlling his biological instincts, and could use a term or two in charm school, but the women should have been more outspoken and just left his sorry butt in the dust. I understand the pressure and anxiety of what they could've faced, but I fear that by not walking away as soon as they had concerns, they just made the situation far worse for themselves. And because of the "believe all women" banner that is hung everywhere, their story and perspectives get 100 times more credence than anything he could ever say now, which disturbs me. I think Johnny Depp has been experiencing that cruel reality for a while now.
Parental issues: TWINE, DAD, SF, SP
Bond going rogue: DAD, QOS, SF, SP
Villainous insider: DAD, SF, SP, NTTD (also CR but Fleming wrote that so it doesn't count)
Bond's relevancy/usefulness being questioned: DAD, SF, SP, NTTD
Somebody did and I was responding (or rather, the implication some seem to make is that NTTD should be avoided entirely now because of the Fukunaga allegations).
I guess you could also say that one of M's previous decisions coming back to bite him/her on the bum is a recurring story element too.
Do you really think they have last word on the direction and themes? Come on!
They bring their own punk-rock style to the series and this is awesome, they should be praised for keeping it on track.
I don't think I need to express in detail how sideways it is to compare the former to the latter, do I?
Well, here you are, guilty of doing the same thing to Cruise that you're trying to do with CJF.
On what are you basing your conclusions about Cruise? So much of the crap that has been said about him is just that: crap.
You know what we have never seen of Tom Cruise? One of these:
Robert Downey Jr. Right?
The exposé on him is well deserved.
Now, it's up to him to clean his ways or to go into obscurity as nobody hires him anymore, because he's on a sliding path. And going away for a while from an environment that tends to boost narcissism would be a good idea anyway.
Being a "celebrity", regardless of how famous you actually are, puts people into a bubble that tends to develop in some cases their worst trends. They don't take no as an answer, or more accurately, some woman who turns a famous guy down or isn't interested in him at all for obvious reasons (like an age gap), is more interesting to the guy than some woman who's smitten by meeting a good-looking celebrity. The guy will take that as a challenge, which can turn into something horrific.
We had an anchorman in France, Patrick Poivre d'Arvor, who hosted from 1987 to 2008 the most watched news in all of Europe. He was quite revered, even if his behavior towards women could look somewhat abrasive (including in the middle of a live interview), as he regarded himself as a seducer. Now, he faces more than twenty different accusations of assault or rape. And nobody in the French press is surprised by it. One of the most concerning things in this is that he regards himself as a good guy. Everything was consensual, he actually helped these women in their career, and now he's a victim of libel. And the sad truth is that he actually believes that, at least partly. At some point, (nearly) everybody loved him, women wanted to sleep with him. He simply disregarded that some women weren't attracted to him in any way or that he had a huge leverage on them. And it went worse as he aged or didn't mean anything to younger people after he left his anchorman seat.
Yes. One of the mugshots from the three times he'd been busted for drugs and/or violating his probation.
That would be the question. But it's coming out "how," exactly? Still, no major publication is running or investigating the story. And that's a good sign that the story is thin, without merit, and based on just a few oddballs with grievances. If it is indeed a behavior pattern, there might be more to come. But as of now, this is all BS accusations.
On the other side, the timing can sometimes look fishy, and that's a shame, because some victims just choose these moments to speak up that just so happen to coincide with their "abuser" doing something on a high profile that makes it look like they're getting revenge or something. With Cary, I think the biggest spark that led to the women speaking up about what he did was him posting about women's rights, which they found ironic and fake, and they felt the need to point out how he maybe wasn't exactly a woman's champion in shining armor. How much of all this is true, how much is exaggerated, and how much is down to bad communication between two parties, we'll see, but there's really no expiration date on accusations or how you can make them.
Some people wait most of their lives to talk about an abuser, because it hurts to bring it up, or they want to pretend it didn't happen. We're in a climate right now ripe for these accusations to come flooding in, and that's why it's so important not to jump to conclusions either way and just let things develop themselves. There's been some cases where victims outright lied about someone abusing them, and the same has happened to a good friend of mine whose life will forever be marked by a vindictive woman seeking to ruin him. These things are monumentally severe, and need to be assessed as carefully as possible, as you are dealing with peoples' lives and reputations here and the stink of a label, whether a person is found innocent or guilty after an accusation, never goes away.
I just wish victims were more outspoken, but that's not an opinion too popular in a lot of places because it's easily lumped in as "victim blaming." But I just think of all the genuinely bad abusers that've spent decades harassing or assaulting victims, and all it would've taken is a few of those victims to band together, speak out and stop that person from doing it ever again to countless other people. These abusers exist because society allows them to exist, and they are protected by the system which they use to manipulate and harass and abuse others.
Haggis is going up against Scientology, which is known for smears. So it's a bit different.
This is an excellent and very nuanced post. This is why I’m not outright dismissive of folks who only decide to open up after a period of time.