NTTD & Corona

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  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    Cases are spiking pretty much everywhere now. And it's not even winter in the northern hemisphere yet.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    It's not about kids dying of it. It's about kids catching it, spreading it to each other, teachers, parents, grandparents, other vulnerable people.
  • edited October 2020 Posts: 1,314
    It's not about kids dying of it. It's about kids catching it, spreading it to each other, teachers, parents, grandparents, other vulnerable people.

    I understand all that. But Schools are not the sole risk. Not nearly so much as Universities it would seem, or meat packaging plants. We can open schools and act accordingly to mitigate other societal risks. My kids go to school and are glad to be back and the school is doing a great job following the guidelines and instilling in the kids a sense of responsibility (more than can be said for many adults), but my kids also haven't seen their grand parents since last December, precisely for the reasons you highlight.

    Meanwhile, we have people like this, undermining the good work. My mind races with what would be the most poetic for of justice for each and everyone of these idiots

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-53802226
  • edited October 2020 Posts: 3,164
    Not sure if anyone else saw the reports of England heading back into nationwide lockdown from next Weds until December at least but yeah...

    Also
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
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    $301 million net budget?
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    How dare they spend money?
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
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    Does that included marketing costs as well?
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
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    Does that included marketing costs as well?

    I hope for them.
  • edited October 2020 Posts: 1,394
    We now know that MGM are accrueing a one million interest payment on the money they borrowed for NTTD's budget every month that goes by without releasing it.Therefore,there is a ticking clock to when they can actually release the film and hope to make any money, or at best,break even.
  • tqbtqb
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    AstonLotus wrote: »
    We now know that MGM are accrueing a one million interest payment on the money they borrowed for NTTD's budget every month that goes by without releasing it.Therefore,there is a ticking clock to when they can actually release the film and hope to make any money, or at best,break even.

    this is honestly why i think theres a decent chance bond may end up on streaming if a buyer offers the right price.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Either way, somebody is gonna have to bite the bullet.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    AstonLotus wrote: »
    We now know that MGM are accrueing a one million interest payment on the money they borrowed for NTTD's budget every month that goes by without releasing it.Therefore,there is a ticking clock to when they can actually release the film and hope to make any money, or at best,break even.

    1 million is nothing. the film is 250 (net 300 or whatever) and they've already delayed one year which cost them only 12 million, peanuts in the big picture. Using this math they could even delay it for 5 years before it even mattered.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    edited November 2020 Posts: 23,102
    Lockdown in England is mere days away, Eon made a very smart move rescheduling.
  • Yes that is true, though you could say the same thing about any other country that might have to lock down again shortly.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    So yeah, safe to say NTTD wouldn’t have fared well at all this month.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    So yeah, safe to say NTTD wouldn’t have fared well at all this month.

    Agreed.
  • edited November 2020 Posts: 348
    If NTTD has to be delayed again (which I really hope it isn't), why can't it be delayed to just July or August instead of November and some other films make space for it? After all, NTTD was meant to be out several months before most of these other delayed films - it's fair then that it should be one of the earlier films to come out next year.
  • DoctorNoDoctorNo USA-Maryland
    edited November 2020 Posts: 754
    They can’t do November 2021... that’s already taken by next Mission Impossible movie and they won’t go head to head with it. and they would be foolish to go a few months after it, so it would need to be late summer or early fall 2021, when/if they do push it.
  • Posts: 1,314
    Looking at last year’s data it would make sense really to do an early summer release.

    April we will be coming out of an apocalyptic winter of deaths and infections. It will still be wet and cold (in northern climes), people will be not confident about socialising in a cinema setting. I think that will change given a few months of warmer weather, a dropping infection rate, optimism about the vaccine etc etc.

    April feels a little too close to winter for me.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    It’s getting delayed again. How dumb would they have to be to have delayed it for so long and then not delay it a few months so people can get vaccinated and feel confident about going to the theatre.
  • Posts: 625
    If NTTD has to be delayed again (which I really hope it isn't), why can't it be delayed to just July or August instead of November and some other films make space for it? After all, NTTD was meant to be out several months before most of these other delayed films - it's fair then that it should be one of the earlier films to come out next year.

    But all of the other films, that got delayed, wrapped filming earlier than NTTD, some of themeven in 2018. So NTTD is still the freshest movie of them all.

    So we Bond fans have to wait less than the fans of all the other franchises.
  • DoctorNoDoctorNo USA-Maryland
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    Except for the production hell that was NTTD that made us wait before Covid came along
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    DoctorNo wrote: »
    Except for the production hell that was NTTD that made us wait before Covid came along

    Which is why I don’t hold the COVID delays against EON, unlike a lot of entitled fans complaining about them.

    The only criticism of the delays that I think are pretty valid is how MGM proceeded to keep marketing the film rather than put everything on hold, like WB has with WONDER WOMAN. Until either COVID subsides and/or a vaccine is ready for distribution, MGM really should have just waited on marketing.
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    DoctorNo wrote: »
    Except for the production hell that was NTTD that made us wait before Covid came along

    Which is why I don’t hold the COVID delays against EON, unlike a lot of entitled fans complaining about them.

    The only criticism of the delays that I think are pretty valid is how MGM proceeded to keep marketing the film rather than put everything on hold, like WB has with WONDER WOMAN. Until either COVID subsides and/or a vaccine is ready for distribution, MGM really should have just waited on marketing.

    Agree with this. One thing I've noticed is a couple of film magazines have put NTTD on their covers a couple times in a matter of months and will they be spinning their wheels if they do so again when it actually comes out?
  • DoctorNoDoctorNo USA-Maryland
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    DoctorNo wrote: »
    Except for the production hell that was NTTD that made us wait before Covid came along

    Which is why I don’t hold the COVID delays against EON, unlike a lot of entitled fans complaining about them.

    The only criticism of the delays that I think are pretty valid is how MGM proceeded to keep marketing the film rather than put everything on hold, like WB has with WONDER WOMAN. Until either COVID subsides and/or a vaccine is ready for distribution, MGM really should have just waited on marketing.

    The production hell is EON’s responsibility. Covid isn’t. They don’t get a pass on the former, regardless of what entitled fans think of the latter.
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
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    https://www.yahoo.com/news/fauci-modernas-outstanding-vaccine-results-131700684.html

    It looks like Dr. Fauci is also impressed with Moderna's vaccine. Seems vaccines are closer than ever now.
  • Posts: 625
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/fauci-modernas-outstanding-vaccine-results-131700684.html

    It looks like Dr. Fauci is also impressed with Moderna's vaccine. Seems vaccines are closer than ever now.

    The problem is: it will take at least a year from now until almost everyone on this planet who wants the vaccine gets it.
    There will be no "old normal" until 2022.
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
    edited November 2020 Posts: 4,247
    Jan1985 wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/fauci-modernas-outstanding-vaccine-results-131700684.html

    It looks like Dr. Fauci is also impressed with Moderna's vaccine. Seems vaccines are closer than ever now.

    The problem is: it will take at least a year from now until almost everyone on this planet who wants the vaccine gets it.
    There will be no "old normal" until 2022.

    Yeah. Well, but at least a vaccine arriving, is good news amid this pandemic.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
    edited November 2020 Posts: 7,999
    DoctorNo wrote: »
    DoctorNo wrote: »
    Except for the production hell that was NTTD that made us wait before Covid came along

    Which is why I don’t hold the COVID delays against EON, unlike a lot of entitled fans complaining about them.

    The only criticism of the delays that I think are pretty valid is how MGM proceeded to keep marketing the film rather than put everything on hold, like WB has with WONDER WOMAN. Until either COVID subsides and/or a vaccine is ready for distribution, MGM really should have just waited on marketing.

    The production hell is EON’s responsibility. Covid isn’t. They don’t get a pass on the former, regardless of what entitled fans think of the latter.

    Precisely.

    Also the way I see it, the film that Boyle was working on wasn't delayed. It was cancelled. When I think of delays regarding NTTD, I don't really include Boyle's film that was supposed to come out November 2019. It's effectively a different film, much like how Dalton's original Bond 17 script featuring cyborg henchmen was a different project from GOLDENEYE.
  • The current version of NTTD was still delayed from February to April. Was there an explanation given for that delay?
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