Christopher Nolan - Appreciation Thread

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  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
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    Just got back from an IMAX screening of TROS and look what pops up before it.

    As soon as I saw the Syncopy logo I knew what was happening.

    Seriously chuffed catching this, never saw any of the others on the big screen before.

    Looks seriously thrilling and intriguing, Nolan looks to be re-defining blockbusters again with this.

    Only a certain Secret Agent as me more excited this year than this.

    2020 will be a great time on the big screen just on the strength of these two alone.

    As I'm not really a big blockbuster fan anymore, don't get excited by MCU or DC so having one of my favourite directors and my favourite film character in the same year is a big deal for me.
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
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    Univex wrote: »
    I was referring to films intelligently made. I reckon Fukunaga is doing one right now. And I never brought Bond films into the discussion. As far as I'm concerned, both CR and SF are two very smart films. So tried to be QOS, with its elemental organics.

    If one thinks films like Memento, The Prestige, Insomnia, Inception, ..., are not Intelligent, then I suppose that person is just trying to make a point about its hatred for Nolan films, but that person can't really be serious. What's an intelligent film, then? They have conceptual ideias and smart ways to present them. Isn't that intelligent?

    I love it when people challenge another's intelectual property. One thing is for certain, Nolan's films aren't banal or mediocre. And he thrives to do cinematic events, which I can, for one, get behind of.

    I was not blown away by the latest trailer. And I do believe that the man has good and not so good films. But to say his films are not intelligent or well made is not even a matter of opinion, is a matter of delusion. If one doesn't like them, well fine, I understand that, but please don't come saying they're badly made dumb films.

    And again, I wouldn't want Nolan near a Bond film. But I do love most of his films.

    In another note, @Pierce2Daniel, SP had fantastic moments where the cinematography was stellar. The thing is, he used the same colouring scheme throughout the film. Wouldn't the film had benefited from some clarity and colours in the Mexico scenes? And if one could have seen the snow as white in Austria? And not yellowish - btw, never eat the yellow snow ;) In Rome and the desert, the yellowish hue worked brilliantly. Just not throughout the entire film, IMO.

    Like you @Univex i don't like all his films to the same degree, but Nolan is definitely one of the most intelligent director's around. He's constantly pushing new boundaries with his execution and ideas.

    I'm always excited when Nolan has a new project on the horizon because i know it's going to be worth seeing.

    Personally i would love to see him tackle Bond. Especially in the area of writing and ideas, something SP fell woefully short on.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    I think Tenet is the film I am most excited about, after NTTD. The trailer is excellent, intriguing, and I'm up for a complex Nolan story. Cinematography looks great.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Having watched the prologue in IMAX, I think I’m gonna try using those close caption devices when I see this in theaters. Nolan’s really ****ing bizarre insistence in drowning out dialogue with loud music and foley is one my least favorite qualities of his films going back to INCEPTION. I don’t understand why he insists on such sound mixes.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    Having watched the prologue in IMAX, I think I’m gonna try using those close caption devices when I see this in theaters. Nolan’s really ****ing bizarre insistence in drowning out dialogue with loud music and foley is one my least favorite qualities of his films going back to INCEPTION. I don’t understand why he insists on such sound mixes.

    Probably my least favourite quality of his films, too.
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    Having watched the prologue in IMAX, I think I’m gonna try using those close caption devices when I see this in theaters. Nolan’s really ****ing bizarre insistence in drowning out dialogue with loud music and foley is one my least favorite qualities of his films going back to INCEPTION. I don’t understand why he insists on such sound mixes.

    Probably my least favourite quality of his films, too.
    A reason for me to dislike Interstellar. Although it helps to watch it at home, with control over the volume.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    And control over subtitles!
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
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    I noticed this about the Prologue but it was still so thrilling and definitely the best thing about my visit to the cinema yesterday.
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    Getting scared that this poster will soon be revealing an inaccurate release date......

    The smart thing for Warner may be to push this to December 2020 and take their currently scheduled 'Dune' film into 2021.

    Nolan is due an Oscar-push and perhaps would have won gold if 'Dunkirk' was a December release. After all, look what '1917' did with that release date (even though 'Parasite' did ultimately sink its battleship).

    I think the thought of a big Oscar push would entice Nolan to delay sadly.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    I don’t think pushing the release date for DUNKIRK would have helped it’s chances. There’s other movies that came out months before “Awards Season” and they still got the gold anyway. Though to be fair, I didn’t think it was that great anyway.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited March 2020 Posts: 15,690
    I don’t think pushing the release date for DUNKIRK would have helped it’s chances. There’s other movies that came out months before “Awards Season” and they still got the gold anyway. Though to be fair, I didn’t think it was that great anyway.

    Some examples:

    Get Out won an Oscar the same year as Dunkirk, and that one came out in February, 5 months earlier than Nolan's WW2 film. The Grand Budapest Hotel in 2014 won 4 Oscars (which is more than Dunkirk managed), and that film was released in March, 4 months earlier than Dunkirk in 2017.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Good examples, I was actually thinking of past Best Picture winners like THE SILENCE OF THE LAMBS (Feb 1991) and GLADIATOR (May 2000).

    Made me think of THE GIRL WITH THE DRAGON TATTOO having a bad release date on Christmas 2011 specifically because Sony wanted to get it out on time for awards season, but it wasn’t the kind of film you release on Christmas and expect a good box office. They really should have just made it a February 2012 release, as that’s a much stronger month for thrillers, even if it meant it’s Oscar noms wouldn’t come until many months later for a 2013 ceremony.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited April 2020 Posts: 15,690
    US cinema operators are not expecting to re-open until late July/early August at the very earliest. So that pretty much seals the deal that Tenet will not be opening at its current release date.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-theaters/u-s-movie-theater-operators-aim-for-a-late-summer-blockbuster-season-idUSKCN21W1CP
  • edited April 2020 Posts: 4,400
    US cinema operators are not expecting to re-open until late July/early August at the very earliest. So that pretty much seals the deal that Tenet will not be opening at its current release date.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-theaters/u-s-movie-theater-operators-aim-for-a-late-summer-blockbuster-season-idUSKCN21W1CP

    I think Warner will need to move their entire slate. Hence, the delay in saying anything.

    I think we will likely see:
    • Godzilla v Kong move to March 2021
    • Dune move to May 2021
    • Tenet move to July 2021
    • The Suicide Squad move to June 2021
    • The Batman move to November 2021

    The absolute worst case scenario is everything moves a year along. I.e; Dune goes to December 2021 and Batman moves to June 2022.

    They are the big Warner releases for 2020/21 with the most fan interest. Interested to hear @antovolk take on this stuff as I know he reports on it it very well on Twitter.

    Meanwhile, I can't decide if I'm more pumped for Tenet or Dune.....I think the latter has the edge with all the hype recently. I really hope that doesn't move from December.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    Dune is a major Oscar contender. If it gets delayed, its going to go all the way back to November/December 2021. I think Godzilla vs Kong is more likely to get a prime May 2021 date.

    Another question @Pierce2Daniel is where will Wonder Woman 1984 move to? It is a very real possibility that by August the situation still does not allow for major film releases. Maybe it gets delayed to somewhere in December?
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited April 2020 Posts: 15,690
    EDIT: double post.
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    Dune is a major Oscar contender. If it gets delayed, its going to go all the way back to November/December 2021. I think Godzilla vs Kong is more likely to get a prime May 2021 date.

    Another question @Pierce2Daniel is where will Wonder Woman 1984 move to? It is a very real possibility that by August the situation still does not allow for major film releases. Maybe it gets delayed to somewhere in December?

    Crikey....I forgot all about Wonder Woman. That film is becoming a bit of a headache for Warner for all the moving up and down the schedule it has endured. It would have been better suited to it's November 2019 date. It's had not few than 3 release dates spread out across a year.

    If NTTD fans are frustrated, just imagine how the Wonder Woman fans are coping. I suspect that film gets the December 2020 date. Something it should have been given straight away when the pandemic started. It was the same date that Aquaman flourished in.

    But do we really think that threatrical distrubtion will be dead in August? Really? Surely the curve will be flattened by then. Right?

    Also, WW updated all their posters with that new date. Will they really change their whole marketing campaign again for the 4th time???

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  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited April 2020 Posts: 15,690
    But do we really think that threatrical distrubtion will be dead in August? Really? Surely the curve will be flattened by then. Right?


    Hopefully the situation will look better by then, but it is too early to tell. I think in late May we should have a clearer picture, i.e. if several August releases suddenly get delayed. So far only the Mark Wahlberg sci-fi thriller Infinite (due August 7th) has been postponed (to May 2021).

    And even if the coronavirus curve gets flatten, it is way too risky to re-open the whole economy straight away. The only sure-fire way to get films like NTTD delayed again is to re-open things too quickly and cause a second wave of the outbreak which triggers another world-wide lockdown by October/November.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
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    Again it’s not about flatten the curve. It’s about keep the virus contained, under control, as long as there’s no vaccine. So forget August.
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    matt_u wrote: »
    Again it’s not about flatten the curve. It’s about keep the virus contained, under control, as long as there’s no vaccine. So forget August.

    a little optimism never hurt anyone
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Breaking:

    Wonder Woman 1984 has been moved to 1985.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Back to the Future again? Lol
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    I'm not risking my life for a Christopher Nolan movie.
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    echo wrote: »
    I'm not risking my life for a Christopher Nolan movie.

    if it was a Nolan bond film I would but as it stands....
  • edited April 2020 Posts: 4,400
    echo wrote: »
    I'm not risking my life for a Christopher Nolan movie.

    Hmm....I would. Perhaps me and few devoted other can get some prime seats at the Waterloo IMAX screen.

    In fact, I hope this happens in July.

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    ...plus cinemas will likely be open then. Let's be optimistic!

  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    echo wrote: »
    I'm not risking my life for a Christopher Nolan movie.

    Agreed. No film is worth risking your life for.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    If I had to chose between IMAX and my living room, I'd probably pick my living room. At least that way I could have access to subtitles, therefore I could understand what the characters are actually saying on the film instead of being buried under aggressive sound mix and music.

    Trying to listen to a mumbling Michael Caine on his death bed in INTERSTELLAR was like trying to decode WWII secrets without a decoder.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    echo wrote: »
    I'm not risking my life for a Christopher Nolan movie.

    Agreed. No film is worth risking your life for.

    Tell that to Tom Cruise.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited April 2020 Posts: 15,690
    echo wrote: »
    I'm not risking my life for a Christopher Nolan movie.

    Hmm....I would. Perhaps me and few devoted other can get some prime seats at the Waterloo IMAX screen.

    In fact, I hope this happens in July.

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    ...plus cinemas will likely be open then. Let's be optimistic!


    Do not get your hopes up. Only 2 weeks ago US cinema chains were hoping of a re-opening in Mid-June. The re-opening date they will give will just be pushed back every 2 weeks by clockwork until September (which is still a very optimistic estimation).

    https://nypost.com/2020/04/01/amc-hoping-to-reopen-movie-theaters-by-mid-june/

    China re-opened their cinemas on March 23rd after 2 months of closure. Guess what happened? China decided to re-close them by March 27th. We are nearing 1 month of this secondary closure, and China has absolutely no specific plans on re-opening them again yet.

    If you put that same timeframe to US cinemas, given they closed in mid-March, that would mean all US theater chains will remain closed until early August (at the very minimum), which shows that the article in your post above may prove unrealistic. Especially since the pandemic oubreak is currently much worse in the US than in China, and with much less strict lockdowns, it's safe to add 2/3 extra months to any re-opening scenarios.
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    Frankly, I don't expect any of the major releases slated for 2020 openings are going to make it.

    They will have to be delayed until 2021 -- or else go the streaming route.
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