Die Another Day New 2CD Release

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  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    boldfinger wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    I got mine, It's really good. The sound quality is fabulous though aside from that it's not that much different than what's been already floating around. I'm disappointed this new release didn't include the film versions of Ice Palace Car Chase and Switchblades which didn't have the techno drums in the background. Aside from that, It's a great release and I hope La La Land records does more expanded Bond scores very soon. A View To a Kill, Moonraker and Octopussy would be my top choices.
    I wouldn´t want to miss one beat of the techno drums, they are the first thing that attracted me back then to the music, and I still love them!

    I don't mind the techno drums but I would have also enjoyed listening to the film versions that didn't have them too. Same with Gustav Graves entrance.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    I also would've loved Orchestral versions of those without the techno beats.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    In any case, I'm so thankful La La Land records is doing Bond music. I've been championing for them to get a licence to do Bond music. Their work for the Star Trek franchise has been phenomenal.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Hear Hear!
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    Thirded!
  • BMW_with_missilesBMW_with_missiles All the usual refinements.
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    I finally got around to ordering it. The price; ouch! All this literally just to listen to a legal copy of Ice Palace Car Chase. I'm sure I'll end up liking other tracks too, of course.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    It's for a good cause though. Soon we'll be getting more expanded Bond scores. :-bd
  • BMW_with_missilesBMW_with_missiles All the usual refinements.
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    Murdock wrote: »
    It's for a good cause though. Soon we'll be getting more expanded Bond scores. :-bd

    True. True. :)
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Question.
    I have been playing this new release in the background of my living room, and though the volume was way up, I admit I may not have been paying the fullest attention to it. Still, I cannot say that I have heard anything that wasn't on the DAD double disc release of several years ago. So what again are supposed to be the major differences?
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    @DarthDimi, if I'm not mistaken it's the same tracklist, only now legally available for anyone, while the older 2CD set was a very limited promo edition not for official retail. And the sound quality is probably bit better.
  • DarthDimi wrote: »
    Question.
    I have been playing this new release in the background of my living room, and though the volume was way up, I admit I may not have been paying the fullest attention to it. Still, I cannot say that I have heard anything that wasn't on the DAD double disc release of several years ago. So what again are supposed to be the major differences?

    This one is legal and the other was a bootleg. ;)

    Really that's it. But beyond that, the actual sound quality between the two is night and day, and—whether you like the idea or not—some of the briefer cues have been formed into mini-suites as Barry used to do, like "The Vanish/Bond Goes to Iceland."

    Disc 2 has some music that wasn't bootlegged, I believe, like orchestra-only versions of some cues and the film mixes of some cues.

    I believe Die Another Day is the only Bond score that had, unfortunately, been bootlegged in its entirety. That's the one thing that I'm worried might hurt sales (with EON keeping their eye on all this for future releases of Bond music). Because however many years ago, that very thing happened with La-La Land's release of Arnold's Independence Day. The score had previously been bootlegged in its entirety, and sales of ID4 were reportedly much lower than they should have been.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Okay, thanks, guys.

    TND and CR have also been given very decent "full score" releases, without disturbing FX or anything.
  • Posts: 5,767
    The original official score for DAD was a travesty, basically the Madonna song with a few of Arnold's tracks added for the b-side. Songs just thrown together, with no coherence whatsoever, so that as an album, it was terrible to listen to. A dark very moment in film soundtrack history.

    If the sound quality on the LLL release is really so much better, damn, I might order it after all...
  • Casino Royale has been available in full officially from iTunes pretty much since the film's release in theaters. So I'd imagine any unofficial physical copies of CR floating around are just using the iTunes tracks.

    I've heard the unofficially expanded TND. I'd give it a pretty decent rating personally. ;)

    Unlike DAD, the unofficial TND was still just a film rip. A long time ago, when I got ahold of some of these unofficial tracks and tried building a complete listening experience with the higher quality tracks from the OST, there were some tracks I just couldn't use because of bothersome volume fluctuations or minimal FX in the background. But then I'm very picky when it comes to the quality of my film music.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    I've got some of those others, full of FX and crazy volume fluctuations, including

    TSWLM
    GE
    LTK
    TLD

    The people who put those together do, however, try to pack a lot of extras which I must admit please me quite a bit. ;-)
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Question.
    I have been playing this new release in the background of my living room, and though the volume was way up, I admit I may not have been paying the fullest attention to it. Still, I cannot say that I have heard anything that wasn't on the DAD double disc release of several years ago. So what again are supposed to be the major differences?

    This one is legal and the other was a bootleg. ;)

    Really that's it. But beyond that, the actual sound quality between the two is night and day, and—whether you like the idea or not—some of the briefer cues have been formed into mini-suites as Barry used to do, like "The Vanish/Bond Goes to Iceland."

    Disc 2 has some music that wasn't bootlegged, I believe, like orchestra-only versions of some cues and the film mixes of some cues.

    I believe Die Another Day is the only Bond score that had, unfortunately, been bootlegged in its entirety. That's the one thing that I'm worried might hurt sales (with EON keeping their eye on all this for future releases of Bond music). Because however many years ago, that very thing happened with La-La Land's release of Arnold's Independence Day. The score had previously been bootlegged in its entirety, and sales of ID4 were reportedly much lower than they should have been.

    Bond soundtrack fans have been complaining for years that there has been no interest from EON in getting the soundtrack releases up and running again. Surely, now that they have, it should be a no-brainer for fans to make the purchase even if DAD isn't their favourite movie or soundtrack.

    I can't believe that there are so many people on other forums who have been waiting for this moment, and now they are saying - I may get it at some point / it's too expensive / I've got the unofficial release.
  • edited December 2017 Posts: 5,767
    Casino Royale has been available in full officially from iTunes pretty much since the film's release in theaters. So I'd imagine any unofficial physical copies of CR floating around are just using the iTunes tracks.

    I've heard the unofficially expanded TND. I'd give it a pretty decent rating personally. ;)

    Unlike DAD, the unofficial TND was still just a film rip. A long time ago, when I got ahold of some of these unofficial tracks and tried building a complete listening experience with the higher quality tracks from the OST, there were some tracks I just couldn't use because of bothersome volume fluctuations or minimal FX in the background. But then I'm very picky when it comes to the quality of my film music.
    There was an official expanded release for TND, with more or less all the relevant tracks (at least in combination with the widely spread official release). I think it was just rather limited.
    You´ve got my full sympathy for being picky with the quality of music.

  • boldfinger wrote: »
    Casino Royale has been available in full officially from iTunes pretty much since the film's release in theaters. So I'd imagine any unofficial physical copies of CR floating around are just using the iTunes tracks.

    I've heard the unofficially expanded TND. I'd give it a pretty decent rating personally. ;)

    Unlike DAD, the unofficial TND was still just a film rip. A long time ago, when I got ahold of some of these unofficial tracks and tried building a complete listening experience with the higher quality tracks from the OST, there were some tracks I just couldn't use because of bothersome volume fluctuations or minimal FX in the background. But then I'm very picky when it comes to the quality of my film music.
    There was an official expanded release for TND, with more or less all the relevant tracks (at least in combination with the widely spread official release). I think it was just rather limited.
    You´ve got my full sympathy for being picky with the quality of music.

    Yeah, I remember that one from around 2000. It went out of print pretty quickly. That release did address a lot of the important music from the second half of the film—the first OST was exclusively from the first half of the film as Arnold was still writing the score when the album was prepared—but there are still several great tracks missing (the PTS dogfight, the fight over the printing press, Bond driving to the hotel, the shootout in the Saigon tower and banner jump, some of the stealth boat music).
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    For the record, I got mine. Santa took over--it's wrapped and under the tree.
    Hope it does good business to warrant future releases.
  • Hope it does good business to warrant future releases.

    That would be the best Christmas gift of all.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    They have more planned but they didn't say which ones they are doing next. I would assume possibly TND, TWINE and QOS since they are the most recent scores that are in dire need of an expansion/official release.
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    I'm still listening to it almost exclusively when I drive. Just the swagger of the music is worth the price alone. If I had to chose what they do next, I'd hope for TWINE over TND as I have both official releases of TND, even though I really want when Bond escapes from the Tomorrow printing factory. I can play the isolated score on the blu, but it's not the same. My TWINE cd is a little skippy at this point and I love the James Bond Theme used over the end credits so I hope that would be included in an expanded version.
  • Posts: 5,767
    In my dreams they start with the Moore films, especially TMWTGG and MR.

    I´m quite happy with the releases of TND, TWINE and QOS (I wouldn´t be if I didn´t have both of the TND releases), and I don´t want LLL to think I´m not interested and stop releasing them ;-).
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    I've heard the unofficially expanded TND. I'd give it a pretty decent rating personally. ;)

    Unlike DAD, the unofficial TND was still just a film rip. A long time ago, when I got ahold of some of these unofficial tracks and tried building a complete listening experience with the higher quality tracks from the OST, there were some tracks I just couldn't use because of bothersome volume fluctuations or minimal FX in the background. But then I'm very picky when it comes to the quality of my film music.

    I imagine there are several "unofficial" TNDs floating around. One I've got has had the volume fluctuations fixed reasonably well.

    I used to be very picky myself, now I don't give a damn. I want to listen to the music, and if it's buried beneath SFX, so be it.
  • Posts: 5,767
    Wasn´t there a 2CD TND promo version in the vein of DAD? If yes, that´s probably going to be next, because it just needs to be pressed officially.
  • boldfinger wrote: »
    Wasn´t there a 2CD TND promo version in the vein of DAD? If yes, that´s probably going to be next, because it just needs to be pressed officially.

    I'm not familiar with any promo for TND, but regardless there is a lot more that goes into preparing these releases than pressing the original tracks. The music is virtually always remastered for optimal quality.

    But I'd say TND or TWINE would be a safe bet for the next one as LLL has a good working relationship with David Arnold. I would say QOS (and it may be, you never know), but I can think of only two fairly brief cues from the film that haven't been released, whereas TND and TWINE have much more missing.
  • BMW_with_missilesBMW_with_missiles All the usual refinements.
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    I've been driving way too fast while listening to this for the past several days. Absolutely worth the money!
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Need I remind you 007, you have a licence to kill. Not to break the traffic laws. ;)
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    So how long could we expect these 5000 units to take to sell out?

    Yeah, I'm anxious.
  • edited December 2017 Posts: 6,844
    mattjoes wrote: »
    So how long could we expect these 5000 units to take to sell out?

    Yeah, I'm anxious.

    Imagine they'll last awhile. 5,000 is a lot of copies for a relatively niche interest (film music), regardless of the Bond name. LLL will sell a lot, surely* enough to impress EON, but at 5,000 I can't see it selling out completely in under a year.

    *assuming/hoping the bootleg doesn't hurt sales
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