Die Another Day vs Spectre.

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    Was his first name Apple?
  • barryt007barryt007 Getting counselling by Sir Roger over how to kill Kara Milovy
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    DAD knows it is a celebratory 40th Anniversay film and embraces that with the great fun elements.

    SP is just insulting to my intelligence,pompous,lazy and presumptuous.
  • DrClatterhandDrClatterhand United Kingdom
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    The CGI tsunami completely killed Die Another Day for me. So utterly wrong in a Bond film. Not watched it since, and I'm a huge Bond fan. Such a shame Brosnan bowed out on that film. He must have watched Casino Royale through gritted teeth.
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    He always has gritted teeth
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    DAD knows it is a celebratory 40th Anniversay film and embraces that with the great fun elements.

    SP is just insulting to my intelligence,pompous,lazy and presumptuous.

    Spot on, Barry. DAD may be a train wreck in some sequences, but as I've said time and time again, the one sin it never commits is being utterly boring.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    DAD knows it is a celebratory 40th Anniversay film and embraces that with the great fun elements.

    SP is just insulting to my intelligence,pompous,lazy and presumptuous.

    Spot on, Barry. DAD may be a train wreck in some sequences, but as I've said time and time again, the one sin it never commits is being utterly boring.
    +1
  • mattjoesmattjoes "It's a house made entirely of glass, and you're inside, and you can't get out."
    edited March 4 Posts: 3,340
    I probably prefer DAD to Spectre but I find Spectre very entertaining. It's peppered with Roger Mooreness. The other day it showed up on TV. I wasn't going to watch it but I wound up watching 45 minutes. I was hooked. Hooked on Spectre. Is there a rehab clinic for that?
  • RemingtonRemington I'll do anything for a woman with a knife.
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    DAD knows it is a celebratory 40th Anniversay film and embraces that with the great fun elements.

    SP is just insulting to my intelligence,pompous,lazy and presumptuous.

    My thoughts as well.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    mattjoes wrote: »
    I was hooked. Hooked on Spectre. Is there a rehab clinic for that?
    As Bond would say, "I know the best place in town." You can expectre full recovery.
  • ThunderballThunderball Colorado
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    Why compare them? What, as the nadir of Bond? Spectre is better than Die Another Day by about 93 million miles, or 1 AU, the distance from the earth to the sun. Not even close. NOT. EVEN. CLOSE.

    Hell, AVTAK is at least 5 times better than DAD and I don’t much care for AVTAK to put it mildly.
  • DrClatterhandDrClatterhand United Kingdom
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    Why compare them? What, as the nadir of Bond? Spectre is better than Die Another Day by about 93 million miles, or 1 AU, the distance from the earth to the sun. Not even close. NOT. EVEN. CLOSE.

    Hell, AVTAK is at least 5 times better than DAD and I don’t much care for AVTAK to put it mildly.

    Absolutely correct!!!!!
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Nadir of the franchise? Look no further than Skyfall. The movie that painted EON in a corner.
  • NS_writingsNS_writings Buenos Aires
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    Better story: DAD
    Better style: SPECTRE
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Better story: DAD
    Better style: SPECTRE
    +1
  • NS_writingsNS_writings Buenos Aires
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    Expanding this a bit more: DAD has a fascinating story, way better planned than SPECTRE's. But... in terms of editing, music, costumes and cinematography SPECTRE holds the winning hand to me.
  • barryt007barryt007 Getting counselling by Sir Roger over how to kill Kara Milovy
    edited March 10 Posts: 18,568
    Expanding this a bit more: DAD has a fascinating story, way better planned than SPECTRE's. But... in terms of editing, music, costumes and cinematography SPECTRE holds the winning hand to me.

    Music ? SP better than DAD ?
  • NS_writingsNS_writings Buenos Aires
    edited March 10 Posts: 405
    barryt007 wrote: »
    Expanding this a bit more: DAD has a fascinating story, way better planned than SPECTRE's. But... in terms of editing, music, costumes and cinematography SPECTRE holds the winning hand to me.

    Music ? SP better than DAD ?

    Totally. DAD's music is a bunch of electronic sounds I don't really like, except for "Welcome to Cuba", "Some Kind of Hero" or "Going Down Together". While SPECTRE (despite being a reprise of Skyfall on many tracks) has really beautiful love/ambient tunes: "L'Americain", "Donna Lucia", "Madeleine", "End Titles", "Secret Room". They all get to my soul instantly.
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
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    I couldn't care a damn about DAD but SPECTRE I was ready to be blown away and entertained, not frustrated and disappointed.

    The last 3 Brosnan films languish near the bottom for me and they are above SPECTRE.

    I've never been more angry with a film in my life, to take what I thought was pretty much my favourite run of Bond films and then bring it to a crashing halt with the 4th film.. well I'm still coming to terms with it.

    As for Skyfall being the nadir of the series and SPECTRE being better, well it just shows us Bond are varied body of people with varying opinions but you'll never convince me that SF for all its flaws is even in the same ball park as SPECTRE in the quality stakes.

  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited March 10 Posts: 15,423
    SP was pretty much a product of what "the audience" wanted after SF. SP was SF's rather disappointing apple not falling far from its tree. Quality-wise, SF wins. Why? It handled the film far better than SP did. It knew what it wanted. SP wanted to please SF fans while also trying to harken back to the old Bond films by coming to full circle, and it didn't work.

    Still... I'd take SP over SF any day of the week. Twice on the weekends.

    And in the end... I'll take DAD over any of the Mendes films thrice per day in a month.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    I'll take the unhealthy, greasy, cheap fast food over an awfully prepared, over priced and under cooked Michelin star meal anyday.
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
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    I've never been a Bond for Bond's sake kind of fan.

    Hammering me over the head with cliches and series moments that the audience has come to expect. To me personally does not make a good Bond film.

    So I've never bought defending SPECTRE that way over Skyfall.
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