The Award Winning : 'Bond...comments while you watch...'

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  • Posts: 15,851
    Bond and Goodnight embrace and are interrupted by M.


    I don't believe Craig has ever experienced this particular Bond tradition in his 12 years.
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    James Bond's name in the lyrics here is the only element that I never cared for.
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    I'll take that over the gunbarrel at the end though.
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    Great viewing of TMWTGG!!!!
    Hit the spot. I may pop in another Bond later if I have some free time.
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    @Torgeirtrap

    The Special Edition DVDs from 1999/2000 are pre-Lowery. IMO, Lowery did some good work, but tampered too much with the colors, and made some changes. The strobe light effect, and freezing the earth tremor shot of Stacey's mansion.
    They also removed the wires on the model plane in GOLDFINGER.

    Personally I prefer to see the films are they appeared originally.

    Thanks for the info! Would have been interesting to see the pre-Lowery stuff. I have the films on VHS, but unfortunately I don't have a working VHS player.

    Anytime. I have a few Bonds on VHS as well. Even the VHS re-issues have differences. In 1992, all the Bonds were digitally remastered for VHS, and many looked quite different from the original films. The Nile scene with Anya, for instance. Instead of that beautiful golden sunset on most versions, the 1992 tape had a bluish hue. Similar to Lowery's OHMSS PTS.
    Also, the "starring Sean Connery" credit in DR NO changed those red blinking 007 boxes to green.
    There was also a VHS version of TB in that series that somehow erased the title fonts up until "Ian Fleming's THUNDERBALL". Odd they would let an error like that slip by.

    TLD by Lowery, is one that I feel looks nothing like the actual film. The earlier SE DVD has the original color timing. Again, very noticeable in a sunrise shot after Bond and Kara make-out. The beautiful golden hues now de-saturated by Lowery.

    Think it's the 1992 VHS editions I have. Why did they do all these changes (both for the VHS stuff and the DVD's)? It only makes me wonder what I've missed out on!

    I think the charm of older movies (even if remastered) is to keep them as close to the original as possible.

    I think the coloring issues on the DR NO titles for those tapes were just an error. Same with the missing credit titles on TB.


    If you have the 1992 tapes, those used the poster artwork on the boxes.
    The later GOLDENEYE era re-issues used original artwork, often photo-shopped close ups of Bond. Those tapes, had similar transfers, but seemed to fix the errors made previously. They looked pretty good, really, and I believe those versions were the basis for the transfers on the SE DVDs.

    Have to be the 1992 tapes, then. The complete set - from DN to LTK, have original poster artwork on the cover.

    I think I saw a blog post once, with images of different scenes without the Lowery restorations compared with the Lowery restorations. Can't find it, unfortunately.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    @ToTheRight

    Please recall our forum policy about double, triple, ... posting. Even if this thread is about live comments, you can still use the edit button. One post per poster, so to speak, not one post per minute.

    Thank you.
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    @DarthDimi
    My apologizes. I was under the impression this thread was a 'comments as you watch" theme.
    I didn't realize that has changed. Therefore I am guilty of posting many consecutive comments on this thread.

    As it now stands, I have now posted my final post on this thread, as well as the non- Bond film comments thread. I will participate no more.
    Thank you.
  • mattjoesmattjoes matjoevakia
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    Hmm, I would think it makes sense that when the comments are 'live', they're posted separately. Also makes conversation easier, in terms of quoting separate posts, rather than one post of ever-increasing length.

    Just saying.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    No need to feel offended, fellas. We're all reasonable folk. Just look at this page alone:

    - post made at 1:37
    - post made at 1:39
    - post made at 1:39
    - post made at 1:40
    - post made at 1:43

    Feels a bit like a Twitter conversation, wouldn't you agree? :) We have the "activity" option for that. I'm sure it could serve the purpose of this thread too.

    Either way, we're not saying you cannot give live comments, but surely comments can be "collected" as it were for one post every 15 or 20 minutes, no?

    @ToTheRight, please don't take it personally. No need to walk away from this thread. We're merely asking to be a tad more economical with the post count. :)
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    I do feel I have been hogging up this thread for several pages, though. Been ages since there's been a group viewing of a Bond on this thread, which is what got me going in the first place.
    I personally wouldn't mind condensing my posts, but it may lose some of the spontaneity.
    Not sure how to do a separate "live" post or how to use the "activity" option.
  • mattjoesmattjoes matjoevakia
    edited July 2018 Posts: 6,793
    It was time for Goldfinger. After it I've only got Dr. No to watch and I'll have revisited all seven Conneries (hehe) this year, several of them having gone up in appreciation.

    - Love the gunbarrel with the high strings. Sounds more exciting and less somber than in FRWL.

    - For some reason I enjoy that exaggerated camera move to follow the fake seagull Bond throws to the water. It's like the film is bursting with energy.

    - Love that version of the Bond theme. Ultra cool. The silky strings, the marimba moving up and down the chords, playing gradually louder... the harp hitting the notes an octave below the violins.

    - I bet the nightclub music is by Barry.

    - "Where was I? Oh, yes." :))

    - There's a move in this fight I remember being vividly impressed by when I was a kid. Still get goosebumps from it to this day. It's when Bond grabs Capungo by the arm and throws him back, and he falls in the tub. There's something so visceral and raw about it. There's a real sense of danger to this fight, like somebody is going to get very badly hurt any second. And it happens, of course.

    - Door slam. Cut to titles. Yeah! This film reeks of utter confidence in itself.

    - Brownjohn's titles have plenty of interesting imagery. Oddjob's moustached face superimposed over the face of a woman. The rotating licence plate over the mouth of another lady. The golf ball moving along the arm. The explosion on the back. I also like how the little hairs of their bodies are captured in silhouette. And the wild colors when the theme song kicks into overdrive.

    - Is it several women or just one? I've never noticed.

    - "He loves only gold... OOOONLY GOOOOLD!!!!!!!1" And the trumpets go nuts... goosebumps. It's like when they were recording, they said "this is tremendously exciting!" "But not enough. MORE, MORE!"

    - The hotel music is definitely by Barry as well. That use of major and minor chords is unmistakably his. The piece has a slightly somber feel if one really analyzes it. Heard fleetingly and not too loudly, one is less likely to notice.

    - But that's Mr. Goldfinger's suite! Yes, you're very sweet. That's my James!

    - I love all the little (and big) displays of Goldfinger's ego throughout the film. He can't bear the idea of being seen as a loser, so he has to cheat at cards, has to cheat at golf, has to be seen with Jill. He also has to kill the gangsters but not before explaining them his master plan, and have Mr. Solo crushed and then his gold removed from the crushed car. He is the one with the slight inferiority complex, not Bond.

    - Love Goldfinger's face when he realizes he can't hear Jill over the earpiece.

    - Felix, I'm sorry. Something's come up. :))

    - That shot of Jill lying on the bed, looking at Bond with bedroom eyes... tempting indeed.

    - The girl's dead. - Dink?! - No, Masterson, Jill Masterson. Try and keep up with my sex life, will you, Felix?!

    - I like Bond's look here. Wool waiscoat, knitted tie.

    - I wish we'd seen just a little more of Smithers's house. The set design in this film is terrific.

    - True, I don't know much about Brandy, 007, but I'll fire your ass if you don't follow my instructions.

    - Oddjob's first proper appearance. Immediately iconic. Great use of crotales to represent him musically. Harsh, metallic.

    - The caddy is so amused by Bond's golf ball trickery. You can imagine it's the most exciting day he's had in a while. I'm happy we've had a golf scene in Bond.

    - You're a really poor liar, Ms. Soames.

    - So Bond figures out how Goldfinger's doing the smuggling, and plot thread A is over. Time to begin unfolding the bigger plan.

    - A somber aspect of the film that isn't dwelt upon much is that Bond is somehow involved in the deaths of both sisters. Though he can't be said to be responsible for Tilly's death in any way. I like how Bond is thrown off by her death. He basically surrenders at that point.

    - That harp ostinato that plays when Bond is being escorted to the factory in his car is truly hypnotic. The brass accents follow a pattern in terms of on which beats they fall, but I love how it can appear rather unpredictable at first. Beat 1 of the first bar, beat 2 of the second bar, beat 1 of the fourth bar, and repeat.

    - Very exciting when the ejector seat is activated. The clueless henchman's yell gives it that extra touch of fun.

    - The factory alleyways are so labyrinthine. A rather eerie place.

    - I like how the laser is set up early on and then reappers at the end, proving to be a crucial part of Goldfinger's plan. Sounding like a broken record here, but the music is great. It starts just as Goldfinger snaps his fingers, and begins defusing the tension just as the laser is turned off. Perfect sync.

    - Bond humilliated Goldfinger, made him look weak. In retaliation, Goldfinger is going to deprive him of his masculinity in the most painful way. I love how he almost doesn't buy Bond's rubbish about 008, Grand Slam and whatever other nonsense he tries to tell him.

    - I love the banjo music. And the string mini-melody after it.

    - Bond must go to the United States every once in a while. It's a familiar place, and a little break from exotic locations. Nothing wrong with that.

    - Bond's in his cell, "teasing the Korean." The harp follows Bond's winks and gestures. Just one sustained chord through the whole piece. The Goldfinger soundtrack is very economical in that sense, and also in the fact it relies so much just on the title theme and the Bond theme... almost exclusively, in fact.

    - "EXCEPT CRIME!!!1" With that degree of conviction, one can imagine Goldfinger having sat alone at night thinking about this matter a great deal. Cool stuff.

    - I like the brief cutaway to Kisch sitting down on the floor near Bond, enjoying his puzzlement at Goldfinger's plan.

    - Are we meant to think Pussy had no idea the gas was deadly? I guess so.

    - Great music, Dawn Raid at Fort Knox. Basically three chords that dominate throughout. The part with the strings playing staccato C minor chords is cut short in the album. In the film it goes on for much longer. Same with the repetitive closing bars in the OHMSS theme. Shame they were edited out.

    - You made a mistake, my friends, by having the troops fall to the floor so cartoonishly. They could've coughed or something.

    - When the break-in begins, there's a long, refreshing stretch without dialogue. Then a polite, but cold and ominous "goodbye, Mr. Bond" from Mr. Goldfinger.

    - The music sets up the arrival of the bomb. When it's finally activated, it goes quiet and that repetitive noise begins. Nothing like a repetitive sound to create suspense.

    - Fantastic shot with Bond going down the lift and the camera opening up to reveal the enormous vault.

    - So Goldfinger is ambushed by the troops, and in no time he is in his military uniform, tricking them and gunning them down. He may be an egomaniac, a liar, a cheater and a crook, but he's not stupid! Fantastic character. And since he is forced to lose his usual gold-colored clothes, he brandishes a golden revolver, to make up for it.

    - I love this. Kisch vs. Oddjob. Nothing like circumstances pitting the bad guys against each other to add spice to a scene. And Oddjob, already creepy throughout the film, becomes even more so here, with his sickening and mysterious loyalty to Goldfinger.

    - Poor fellow crushed by the vault door. Did he die, I wonder?

    - Oddjob relishes Bond's futile attempts at hurting him. He may be mute but his actions, facial expressions and body language tell us (or rather hint at) plenty about him.

    - What's that piece of wood Bond tries to hit him with? What's it for? Looks a bit like a paddle, but that's obviously not it.

    - And then the tables are turned for a moment. Oddjob's face changes when Bond grabs the hat.

    - Oddjob's dead, and the music returns. One small crisis has been averted, now it's time to deal with the bigger one.

    - Watching this, I couldn't help but think of the bomb in Naked Gun 2 1/2. Drebin fails to defuse it until he realizes it's plugged into the wall socket.

    - Anyway, it's pretty exciting when Bond finally opens the damn thing and all you see is this giant mess with cables and rotating things. What the hell is he going to do?

    - Goldfinger appears in the plane. Cut to: the military pilots, tied up and gagged. Pretty funny in its own way. Some slick editing in this film. Shame that Hunt wasn't on board for Thunderball. It could've used a bit of trimming as most of us would agree.

    - "Are you having lunch at the white house, too?" :))

    - Goldfinger gets sucked out of the plane. Gert Fröbe and Michael Collins delivered a great performance.

    - Once again, I like this cross-cutting. The plane's about to crash, and we cut to Felix and the others discovering the military pilots.

    - Colonel Russhon. Thank you. For feeding ice cream to Connery.

    This film feels so damn modern. It's been 54 friggin' years and it feels cool, distinctive and contemporary. And as I said, it reeks of self-confidence. As if the filmmakers knew they were making something great. Which they were.

    A great deal of the film's effectiveness has to do with Connery and Fröbe (and Collins). Their interplay is the essence of the film.

    During this watch, I tried hard to free my mind of what I know about the film. Tried to approach it as if watching it for the first time. It worked to a degree. Made its surprises seem fresh.

    I wish I had a time machine to go back to 1964 and see for myself what people were saying about the film back then. What the cultural zeitgeist was like.

    I tell you I love all these films the more I watch them!
  • mattjoesmattjoes matjoevakia
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    A couple of comments on Dr. No:

    The actor who plays the road worker is so intense and focused! He sees three men dying in a burning car but is probably thinking about what he'll have for dinner.

    The shot of the swamp at dusk in which they finally see the dragon is rather beautiful. And the "dragon" actually looks fairly intimidating.

    The dinner scene is very well acted and written. Bond pushing the doctor's buttons.

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    I'm up for a group viewing, by the way. I'm done with the Connery era but I was planning on watching three Moore films, one Dalton and two Craigs. If our interests coincide we could "join forces."
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    edited July 2018 Posts: 14,037
    That sounds like fun. I have the weekend free, but I'm going to bed soon though (5:30am here). Maybe I'll join you for a film later on.
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    Would 6pm California time work?
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    What Bond would hit the spot tonight?
    Sean, Laze, Rog, Timmy, Pierce or Daniel?
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    I’ll leave that up to you or anyone else. I guess a Roger is always good.

    Good call. Let's go with Roger. He is still a couple viewings behind Sean in the Bond Meter Thread.

    Anyone else up for some Roger tonight?
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    mattjoes wrote: »
    A couple of comments on Dr. No:

    The actor who plays the road worker is so intense and focused! He sees three men dying in a burning car but is probably thinking about what he'll have for dinner.

    The shot of the swamp at dusk in which they finally see the dragon is rather beautiful. And the "dragon" actually looks fairly intimidating.

    The dinner scene is very well acted and written. Bond pushing the doctor's buttons.

    ---

    I'm up for a group viewing, by the way. I'm done with the Connery era but I was planning on watching three Moore films, one Dalton and two Craigs. If our interests coincide we could "join forces."

    If my memory serves correct, he wasn’t an actor. He was working that machine on the road while they were filming and Young was like hey this will look good in the film, you want to be in the film?

    It’s like a crane or something in the script and not whatever it is in the final film
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    Anyone down for either MR or AVTAK?
  • mattjoesmattjoes matjoevakia
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    It's later here than in California, and I'm a bit bushed, so I think I'll pass tonight. But I'm cool with those two films; in fact, they're on my watchlist.
  • mattjoesmattjoes matjoevakia
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    mattjoes wrote: »
    A couple of comments on Dr. No:

    The actor who plays the road worker is so intense and focused! He sees three men dying in a burning car but is probably thinking about what he'll have for dinner.

    The shot of the swamp at dusk in which they finally see the dragon is rather beautiful. And the "dragon" actually looks fairly intimidating.

    The dinner scene is very well acted and written. Bond pushing the doctor's buttons.

    ---

    I'm up for a group viewing, by the way. I'm done with the Connery era but I was planning on watching three Moore films, one Dalton and two Craigs. If our interests coincide we could "join forces."

    If my memory serves correct, he wasn’t an actor. He was working that machine on the road while they were filming and Young was like hey this will look good in the film, you want to be in the film?

    It’s like a crane or something in the script and not whatever it is in the final film
    That makes sense. He's obviously terrible in delivering his line, but it's a charming moment in the film.
  • mattjoesmattjoes matjoevakia
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    @Birdleson Chile.
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    I'll go with AVTAK. Can we make it 6:30? I have to feed and walk the dog around 6.

    AVTAK @6:30 it is!
    Sounds great!
  • mattjoesmattjoes matjoevakia
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    I've got it on. ;) I'm out for tonight. Have fun with Sir Roger!
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    19 minutes and counting.............
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    15 minutes and counting.................
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    5 minutes to go...........
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    one minute....
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    Only seconds more. Nothing can stop it.
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    and here we go.........
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    Gunbarrel!
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