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Realistic & Serious Story Ideas for Bond 25 (...to be used by EON Productions Ltd.??)

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  • J_Bryce777J_Bryce777 San Francisco
    edited March 2018 Posts: 78
    @FoxRox she died during a mysterious car crash in Kingston between the events of Risico and Spectre. It would be said that with Bond's driving ability the crash would likely not have happened and thus alluding to the car crash as having been engineered. Her death would be mentioned as part of what broke Bond's mind when he was captured but it doesn't need to be shown.
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
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    Got it.
  • J_Bryce777J_Bryce777 San Francisco
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    @coco1997 that is what I thought too. And what happened to Beam was left in the air. It was only mentioned that Leiter replaced him, not necessarily that Beam was arrested or anything. And Leiter would have a reason to suspect Beam.
  • patbpatb
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    Beam is on a very short list of supporting characters within the DC era that I would want to see come back. Good idea.
  • J_Bryce777J_Bryce777 San Francisco
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    @patb I kind of got the idea for Beam's role through P & W's comments about Trump.
  • Pierce2DanielPierce2Daniel
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    Brainwashing doesn't exactly feel very "grounded" to me...

    Also, there are may more sophisticated ways to comment on Trump than having a character who is literally an obnoxious businessman launching a bid for the presidency of the United States.

    This is a little too on-the-nose for my tastes. It's borderline boneheaded and cringe-worthy at worst. I prefer they addressed the "idea" of Trump and comment on things such as nationalism and sovereignty.

    In terms of bringing Beam back? I'm totally up for this. Personally, I think he can still be a CIA official. Who knows whats happened in the years since QOS, he may only have been discredited for a short period of time. Plus Greg Beam was such a stock "evil government official" you wouldn't really need much explanation, the only thing that animated that character was Barbour's performance. I'd be very happy if he returned as a nefarious CIA sort with little explanation. Though, if they wanted to bring the CIA back, then it would only be fitting that Jeffrey Wright returned.
  • J_Bryce777J_Bryce777 San Francisco
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    @Pierce2Daniel the brainwashing was an idea pulled from the beginning of The Man With the Golden Gun novel.

    Yeah there are many ways; it would just be cool to see Beam return with a slightly different take on the role. Even his return with the CIA would be fine, which would definitely call for Leiter's return.
  • patbpatb
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    Boyle tends to concentrate on the human ellement of every story (127 hours perfect example or Steve Jobs) and this fits in very well with calls from some fans to have Bond act on his own without too much tech and help from the team.

    It would not surprise me if Hodge has come up with some kind of scenario where the focus is on Bond as the person (not the back story as in SP) but his personal qualities etc etc. This also fits in with having a smaller budget and something quicker to film.

    For some, I am sure, this will not go down well. It's going to get the forum shaken and stirred!
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
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    patb wrote: »
    Boyle tends to concentrate on the human ellement of every story (127 hours perfect example or Steve Jobs) and this fits in very well with calls from some fans to have Bond act on his own without too much tech and help from the team.

    It would not surprise me if Hodge has come up with some kind of scenario where the focus is on Bond as the person (not the back story as in SP) but his personal qualities etc etc. This also fits in with having a smaller budget and something quicker to film.

    For some, I am sure, this will not go down well. It's going to get the forum shaken and stirred!

    I'd actually been craving something more straightforward but I'd prefer they save that as a new approach for the next guy to be honest. For Craig's last I want it to feel in line with his other movies. They can be as personal and experimental and different as they like.
  • patbpatb
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    One thing I think is very liklely: it will be a real chance for DC to show his acting chops. He will have to "step up to the plate" , no chance to hide behind massive explosions or lead a big team of commandos

    I think there will be be alot of screen time on Bond the person and DC hopefully will see it as a challenge and rise to it.
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
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    patb wrote: »
    One thing I think is very liklely: it will be a real chance for DC to show his acting chops. He will have to "step up to the plate" , no chance to hide behind massive explosions or lead a big team of commandos

    I think there will be be alot of screen time on Bond the person and DC hopefully will see it as a challenge and rise to it.

    I think that's why he came back to be honest. I reckon he wants to go out on the same "best Bond ever?" hype he had with CR and SF.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    There's a beautiful establishing shot of a snowy mountain side on a fresh morning. In the distance a man and two boys are skiing down the side of a ridge into the shadows. The man is Hans Oboerhausers, and the three laugh as they glide playfully in the snow. Hans goes on ahead and one of the boys sees a ridge at the bottom of the valley. He says "watch" to the other boy, and with that speds away down the slope, gliding up the ridge at speed, taking off over the tops of some trees and landing haphazardly but safely next to where Mr Oboerhausers was standing. "Woah" says Oberhauser "what a landing! Good job James, but be careful in future, it's too dangerous." Seeing this, the other Boy looks jealous as he joins them. He tries to keep up as the three of them excitedly make their way home. Once there, they sit at the table of the cabin and eat hot soup, and Oberhauser continues saying how talented James is and wants to train him for competitions. James has a big smile on his face and listens intently. Young Franz, Hans son, looks frustratedly into his soup bowl. The next day, they are out Skiing again when they come to the same passage. James and Hans are busy talking and go on ahead, but Franz is tired and struggling to keep up. He stops for a minute at the top of the ridge to catch his breathe. He looks done at his Father and James as they carry on without him, as is they forgot he was even there with them. Suddenly his eyes move from them to the ridge where James had made the jump the previous day. That's it! Without a second to waste, young Franz pushes off and flies down the slope at speed. However, as he reaches the ridge he loses his confidence and shoots up at an funny angle. Flying through the air he catches the tops of the trees which sends him spiraling, landing in a heap behind his father and James. The two rush to help, but it appears he is badly injuries. Franz wakes up the next morning in bed, with Hans and James both there. His leg is in a cast and he is not allowed to ski for several months. Both James and Hans look very empathetic. They tell him to rest, and leave closing the bedroom door. Through the floorboards of the cabin Franz can hear James and Hans chatting away, having a fun time. A look of sadness break into his face, followed by anger as he is left alone again.

    Then cut to the titles sequence.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Does anyone actually have the slightest idea/vision of what Boyle & Hodge's idea could entail?
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    jake24 wrote: »
    Does anyone actually have the slightest idea/vision of what Boyle & Hodge's idea could entail?

    A retired Bond coping wih everyday life.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    jake24 wrote: »
    Does anyone actually have the slightest idea/vision of what Boyle & Hodge's idea could entail?

    Bond gets molested by a woman
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
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    All Fleming novels adapted into a 2-hour movie. A little bit of each, like a character, a location or a plot point.
  • patbpatb
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    jake24 wrote: »
    Does anyone actually have the slightest idea/vision of what Boyle & Hodge's idea could entail?

    I think it's fair to assume that it must be new and distinctive. They would hardly approuch the producers with the standard Bond formula. I also think it's fair to assume that the idea is based on character/plot rather than just a big gimic (rocket from a volcano for example) based on their previous work. I also think it's fair to assume that the idea does not involve huge amounts of cash (biggest ever vcar chase, biggest ever explosion etc).




  • Pierce2DanielPierce2Daniel
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    patb wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    Does anyone actually have the slightest idea/vision of what Boyle & Hodge's idea could entail?

    I think it's fair to assume that it must be new and distinctive. They would hardly approuch the producers with the standard Bond formula. I also think it's fair to assume that the idea is based on character/plot rather than just a big gimic (rocket from a volcano for example) based on their previous work. I also think it's fair to assume that the idea does not involve huge amounts of cash (biggest ever vcar chase, biggest ever explosion etc).

    I agree with you regarding the points concerning Hodge.

    Hodge is known for writing short, sharp and succinct black comedies. Both him and Boyle work at a smaller and more modest scale. So I assume the script for Bond 25 will be sharper and funnier than the previous Craig scripts, and won't be quite so overly-indulgent.

    Personally, I'm hoping for a more stripped-down character piece. I really want them to put Daniel Craig front-and-centre of the film and give him a good send-off. I don't want to film to get overly bogged down with flamboyant villains, grandiose sets, love interests, etc.

    I want them to move back from the paraphernalia and focus on Bond as a character. This is exactly what CR did so well. I think SF did it to an extent, but that film was more ensemble in some respects.

    I don't want an MI6 sub-plot, I don't need an abundance of scenes where Q and Moneypenny team up, I don't need a female lead who has to fall head over heels for Bond. I just want the story to go back and focus on Bond.

    I think the M.O of the film is to channel the Bond in this scene in CR.
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    I think Boyle will deliver something more personal and in a smaller register - akin to CR.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Chris Corbould recently told the press to "think the Olympics" when asked if there would be a focus on realism in B25. Could he be hinting at a royal angle? Could Bond have to protect the Queen?

    It almost seems bold enough to fit the mould of whatever Boyle's golden idea is for the film. I'm intrigued, but also questioning whether or not it can seriously be pulled off.

    How would everyone feel about this potential plotline?
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/films/990171/James-Bond-25-Special-effects-supervisor-Chris-Corbould-Danny-Boyle-Daniel-Craig

    The article makes it seem like that "think the Olympics" comment was a direct response to whether 'there would be a similar focus on realism with Bond 25'.

    "I wouldn't be doing it otherwise. Think the Olympics."

    Hence, I could interpret that as: an exciting opportunity for Bond to be involved in a major, real world event or with a real life person (not necessarily a Royal, but on that scale).

    However, there could indeed be a story revolving around the Queen and/or Royal family, what with Boyle's idea coming about around the same time, circa 2012.

    Personally, I find the Royal angle a bit boring, but I remain confident that Boyle could deliver something intriguing no matter the plot.

    It's all a bit ambiguous at the moment!
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    edited July 2018 Posts: 12,837
    I was thinking that if there's any truth to the London rumours then maybe the big idea is MI6 are involved in something dodgy (maybe something to do with the Russians since the villain is one) and Bond goes against them? That'd be pretty different. We've had Bond going rogue loads of times but it's always MI6 have got the wrong end of the stick or MI6 don't trust him when they should. Bond actually fighting against his own government would be something new.

    The Olympics comment is interesting. I'm British but I'm not a monarchist, it was fine for the Olympics but don't know how I'd feel about a full on god save the queen Bond film. I have faith in Boyle though no matter what he decides to do. This is the only time apart from Campbell returning that a director announcement has genuinely really excited me. He's one of my favourite directors and I've wanted him to do a Bond film for years.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Ian Fleming's Bond would die for Queen and Country. I have a feeling DC's Bond would too.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    peter wrote: »
    Ian Fleming's Bond would die for Queen and Country. I have a feeling DC's Bond would too.

    Probably, though I think Sean’s bond would only die for “ king” and country
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    jake24 wrote: »
    Chris Corbould recently told the press to "think the Olympics" when asked if there would be a focus on realism in B25. Could he be hinting at a royal angle? Could Bond have to protect the Queen?

    It almost seems bold enough to fit the mould of whatever Boyle's golden idea is for the film. I'm intrigued, but also questioning whether or not it can seriously be pulled off.

    How would everyone feel about this potential plotline?

    It's very Patriot Games.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    Posts: 12,988
    I think it's time to break out from the British Isles. But of course that all depends on how it's done.

    So on the other hand coming closer to the Crown could be golden.
  • patbpatb
    edited July 2018 Posts: 4,599
    A connection with the royals could work and still gives flexibilty re the style of the movie. It also ticks the box re both being patriotic but also recognisable at an international stage. It also comes at a time when the royals are both high profile but , sadly, on the brink of change. Plus it also ticks the box regarding being about people/character rather than oil reserves etc, plus its a story that perhaps no other country could pull off?

    The Queen is too obvious and would not work but there are plenty of opportunuties re other members of the Royals.

    It's an intriguing idea IMHO

  • LeChiffreLeChiffre
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    Could the villain at the start become an ally at the end? Would be a new twist.
  • CigaretteLeiterCigaretteLeiter United States
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    patb wrote: »
    A connection with the royals could work and still gives flexibilty re the style of the movie. It also ticks the box re both being patriotic but also recognisable at an international stage. It also comes at a time when the royals are both high profile but , sadly, on the brink of change. Plus it also ticks the box regarding being about people/character rather than oil reserves etc, plus its a story that perhaps no other country could pull off?

    The Queen is too obvious and would not work but there are plenty of opportunuties re other members of the Royals.

    It's an intriguing idea IMHO

    My god, Bond 25 is going to be an adaptation of Never Send Flowers.
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
    Posts: 12,258
    I once mentioned how I thought it’d be cool to have a power couple, sort of like Zorin and May Day, be villains for Bond 25. What if you had this couple who were absolutely unstoppable when united, but while they are able to give Bond a lot of trouble, the couple is secretly plotting against each other to be the only one left standing, for the sake of power/control or whatever. I think if executed well that could be really fun, and maybe a tad humorous even.
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
    edited September 2018 Posts: 2,541
    From what I see in last scene of SP and OHMSS we could have Madeline and Bond driving on Aston Martin and Madeline got killed in PTS just like Tracy and a female villian connected to bond and Blofeld.
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