No Time To Die: Production Diary

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  • HildebrandRarityHildebrandRarity Centre international d'assistance aux personnes déplacées, Paris, France
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    Bond is supposed to be a loner, who's almost never teamed with anybody else in MI6, apart from some liaison agent, preferably female, he will be involved with when he reaches some foreign place. The PTS in Skyfall is interesting as it hints instead at a group effort at Istanbul. Bond is indeed concerned with the fate of Ronson who's dying, Eve arrives to chase the killer, that's an operation that involves an actual team.
    But some people are concerned that spending time with supporting characters does lessen Bond.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    That's my mild complaint for Licence to Kill--OO7 as too much of a team in the pre-title sequence, he's diminished.

    I definitely don't get that from the Skyfall pre-title sequence, since he's really out there as the tip of the spear and engaged. And every Bond is regularly assisted/outright saved by his associates.
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    She's probably the younger mi6 protege if that's still in the script.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited February 22 Posts: 2,315
    Bond is supposed to be a loner, who's almost never teamed with anybody else in MI6, apart from some liaison agent, preferably female, he will be involved with when he reaches some foreign place. The PTS in Skyfall is interesting as it hints instead at a group effort at Istanbul. Bond is indeed concerned with the fate of Ronson who's dying, Eve arrives to chase the killer, that's an operation that involves an actual team. But some people are concerned that spending time with supporting characters does lessen Bond.
    Some good points @HildebrandRarity, and in Skyfall, it was necessary. The urgency of the situation would require more than just 007. MI6 needed to get that list, and needed the capabilities of more than one agent.

    Plus it was necessary for the introduction of Eve and the plot, whereas in Spectre, it wasn't necessary and it dragged the plot down. Again, I know Nine-Eyes was part of the plot, but that felt like it was done more for the benefit of having more of the MI6 regulars, than for the benefit of the story and the film.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    edited February 22 Posts: 5,653
    In Spectre, MI6 itself was under attack from C from without and within. That's a thematic reason to involve the HQ staff directly, to show him shutting down their activity on the way to their near extinction. They find a way to fight back while Bond deals with the larger, outside threat and it comes together at story's end.
  • SuperintendentSuperintendent A separate pool. For sharks, no less.
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    Moneypenny:” with an extended role”

    Moneypenny's lost sister comes back for revenge and is revealed to be the author of all her pain.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    AgentM72 wrote: »
    I will simply never understand how the franchise could be so lucky as to secure actors of the caliber of Harris, Fiennes, Kinnear and Whishaw for supporting roles, and yet people feel they should be used less.

    I'm fine with it being a difference in opinion. And I'm certainly not judging those who do feel that way.

    I just genuinely don't get it.
    It's nothing against the actors. I think it's just that people like myself wanna see more time given to James Bond's mission. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy for them to use them to their full extent, but it's when a whole subplot is given to their characters that people get frustrated, because so much more time could be given to the Bond girl or the villain.

    A lot of the problems with Madeleine Swann could've been solved if they'd just focused their time and attention on her, rather than on a subplot we didn't really need. I understand the whole Nine-Eyes thing, but there were other ways they could've introduced without giving a quarter of the film to the MI6 crew.

    I'm fine with these characters being given their due if they're written well. It's just that with the exception of Wishaw, they haven't been so far.

    Kinnear is a pretty good actor but his version of Tanner is a damp squib.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited February 22 Posts: 2,315
    In Spectre, MI6 itself was under attack from C from without and within.
    Well I hope Bond 25 doesn't give us another "MI6 is under attack" storyline.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    edited February 22 Posts: 5,653
    Yeah, I expect that's cleared up. And time to get away from London and the UK, definitely.

    It should be the non-intelligence bureaucrats attacking MI6 again.
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    I feel less Scooby Gang is more.
  • I would not mind Lupita Nyong’o having a role in Bond 25. Perhaps she could play an agent/Bond’s contact from MI6’s Namibia/Tunisia station?
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    edited February 22 Posts: 9,948
    Wonderful news! Lupita is fantastic and would make an excellent addition to the cast. Hoping for a relative unknown for at least one Bond girl in this film though.

    As for the possibility of an expanded Moneypenny role - I'm all for it. Just make proper use for the character.

    Also, considering the Burns news just surfaced it's reassuring to know he's already halfway through the script.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Tuck91 wrote: »
    She's probably the younger mi6 protege if that's still in the script.
    It was never in the script.
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
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    IF and that’s a big IF Burns is halfway through the script like the article says, perhaps filming will still commence in March instead of April.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Halfway = Half Full. It’s very encouraging.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    talos7 wrote: »
    Halfway = Half Full. It’s very encouraging.
    Agreed.
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    Very interesting news. Be interesting to see what role she plays. I'm glad the producers are going after well known actors and actresses for some of these roles. Hopefully this gets the ball rolling when it comes to casting soon.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya “We are thrilled to delay B25”
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    Henchwoman would be awesome. Something in the style of Volpe is long overdue in this series.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Henchwoman would be awesome. Something in the style of Volpe is long overdue in this series.
    Definitely. Nyong'o fits the bill perfectly.
  • edited February 22 Posts: 10,890
    That's my mild complaint for Licence to Kill--OO7 as too much of a team in the pre-title sequence, he's diminished.

    I definitely don't get that from the Skyfall pre-title sequence, since he's really out there as the tip of the spear and engaged. And every Bond is regularly assisted/outright saved by his associates.

    Much of the current rot can sadly be traced back to LTK. That was followed by the team assault on the Russian chem weapons factory in GE. A slippery slope.

    The casting rumours don't particularly excite me. I'd prefer some older names with a bit more thespian heft. Denzil Washington as a villain up against Craig would be awesome.

    Anyone who saw Thandy Newton in Line of Duty will know she could bring real menace to the screen.

    And any love interest needs to be a bit more age appropriate.
  • Denbigh wrote: »
    Lupita.jpg

    A wonderful actress, and absolutely stunning. I just hope she is cast :)
    I’m sorry but I find her absolutely unattractive. Not Bond girl material in the least. Unless they’re going for some kind of a bizarre vibe a la Grace Jones.

  • RemingtonRemington I'll do anything for a woman with a knife.
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    Lupita.jpg

    A wonderful actress, and absolutely stunning. I just hope she is cast :)
    I’m sorry but I find her absolutely unattractive. Not Bond girl material in the least. Unless they’re going for some kind of a bizarre vibe a la Grace Jones.

    I'm not too impressed either.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited February 22 Posts: 15,423
    Remington wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Lupita.jpg

    A wonderful actress, and absolutely stunning. I just hope she is cast :)
    I’m sorry but I find her absolutely unattractive. Not Bond girl material in the least. Unless they’re going for some kind of a bizarre vibe a la Grace Jones.
    I'm not too impressed either.
    Make that three.

    She was alright in the things I've seen her in. Nothing groundbreaking.
  • edited February 22 Posts: 10,890
    The casting department needs to liven things up a bit. The casting in CR was without doubt the best of the entire Craig era. Green, Mikkelson, Wright and Gianninni were all brilliant. And the other minor roles were also really nicely cast. It had the feel of early Bond in terms of the casting.

    We need more of that less well known casting.

    The more recent casting has left me bored.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Agreed.
  • edited February 22 Posts: 4,364
    Count me in the camp of those who have never understood the hype surrounding Lupita. She is not Bond girl material neither in terms of looks nor acting abilities for me.

    Edit:

    On further thought it is a bit harsh to say her acting is not good enough for a Bond girl role considering the level some previous Bond girls have shown... My point was that her acting does not make her stand out or an obvious choice compared to other talented actresses ;)
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    Woah! It looks as though we are off to the races. Finally.

    @ringfire211 No need to apologise. I think she's gorgeous and a terrific actress to boot. Nyong'o has become a bit of franchise shill after winning the Oscar, so it's kinda no surprise that Bond would be next.

    Nonetheless, she’s a terrific talent and I find her captivating to look at. She’s a true beauty.

    She was the de facto ‘Bond girl’ in Black Panther, so I’d be unenthusiastic if she just played a similar character here. Personally, I want her to be evil. We need a great female villain in the vein of Fiona Volpe again! Lupita fits that bill terrifically.

    lip-gloss-lupita-nyongo.jpg

    Meanwhile, interesting nugget in there concerning Harris. I had earlier speculated that she may get bumped to the female lead this time out (a la Judi in Skyfall). She’s made a convincing argument for it in some of the marketing materials.

    Naomie-Harris-Sony.jpg

  • BondAficionadoBondAficionado Former IMDBer
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    Scott Burns is moving at twice the pace than journalist Perez believed he would. That's fantastic news if they're aiming for the same production date. Not that I think it will begin before mid April/May, but interesting nonetheless.
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    This has piqued my interest. Lupita is a wonderful actor and absolutely stunning. She would be an inspired choice for a Bond girl.
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    Lupita doesn't do much for me i'm afraid,but i'm open to the possibility of course.
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