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  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    doubleoego wrote: »
    The code name theory is ironically for people who can't fathom the concept and logistics of time.
    +1
  • SonofSeanSonofSean
    Posts: 199
    You want insane theories? There's no continuation of Craig's previous outings. No reference to anything in Spectre. It's 100% standalone. It's also set in the 1960's at the height of the cold war with Russians the villians. That's right, it's back to the era Fleming wrote about. It's also a similar idea to Quentin Tarantino's Casino Royale pitch.
  • SeanCraigSeanCraig Germany
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    Among all those rumours about „Logan Bond“, „Sidekick Bond“ and „Altzheimer Bond“ the idea of seeing Craig in a 1960s environment, fully embracing the era and everything we love so much about Bond without worries about political correctness and any hashtag is the one that appeals most to me ... right next to just a good 007 adventure nobody has thought of so far except Boyle.
  • SonofSeanSonofSean
    Posts: 199
    SeanCraig wrote: »
    Among all those rumours about „Logan Bond“, „Sidekick Bond“ and „Altzheimer Bond“ the idea of seeing Craig in a 1960s environment, fully embracing the era and everything we love so much about Bond without worries about political correctness and any hashtag is the one that appeals most to me ... right next to just a good 007 adventure nobody has thought of so far except Boyle.

    I think the 1960's concept would be very cool and free up Craig & Boyle to have to real fun and go full-on Fleming. And no PC agenda! Bond can be Bond as depicted in the books and if SJW's are offended, they can stay at home and rewatch The Last Jedi.

  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Posts: 3,157
    SeanCraig wrote: »
    Among all those rumours about „Logan Bond“, „Sidekick Bond“ and „Altzheimer Bond“ the idea of seeing Craig in a 1960s environment, fully embracing the era and everything we love so much about Bond without worries about political correctness and any hashtag is the one that appeals most to me ... right next to just a good 007 adventure nobody has thought of so far except Boyle.

    +1.

    Also, no mentions of Trump or Putin which I'm afraid will find their way in Bond 25.
  • SonofSeanSonofSean
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    echo wrote: »
    Who is this guy? This theory is dumb.

    The 'guy' is David Zaritsky who runs the amazing site The Bond Experience. He does fantastic video blogs on all things Bond on Youtube. He visits locations, talks to tailors about "The Bond look". He knows his stuff & he's having fun (like we all are) speculating about Bond 25.

  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    SeanCraig wrote: »
    Among all those rumours about „Logan Bond“, „Sidekick Bond“ and „Altzheimer Bond“ the idea of seeing Craig in a 1960s environment, fully embracing the era and everything we love so much about Bond without worries about political correctness and any hashtag is the one that appeals most to me ... right next to just a good 007 adventure nobody has thought of so far except Boyle.

    Never going to happen in 2019. Boyle's too smart to set himself up for that criticism.
  • SeanCraigSeanCraig Germany
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    echo wrote: »
    Never going to happen in 2019. Boyle's too smart to set himself up for that criticism.
    I don‘t think it‘s likely to happen- but Matt Weiner portrayed the 1960 very well within his „Mad Men“ TV Series and funnily this show was often used as an example for telling a story relevant for today through the look of a past era. He and the show got many awards plus were a critic‘s favourite. Done right, a setup like this could work on the entertainment front (same was true about Mad Men) as well as telling a compelling story plus adding value by reflecting today‘s issues from a 60s era environment.

    Again, I doubt it will be this way ... but looking at it this way and comparing it to the other concepts (Bond dies, Bond trains a sidekick, how to solve the SP story mess etc.), I like the idea. Plus it could be a colourful adventure.
  • RC7RC7
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    Not happening.
  • SharkBaitSharkBait
    Posts: 2,107
    One off The Man From Uncle and Bond team up set in the swinging sixties?
  • mybudgetbondmybudgetbond The World
    Posts: 189
    It won't happen in the next film, but I wouldn't be adverse to Bond rebooting to the 50's/60's for Bond 26 onwards.
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
    edited July 2018 Posts: 4,619
    Goldeneye0094 wrote: »

    The bond experience's most recent bond 25 vlog listen to David's insane theory on how the film could end at 4:10
    I like David, but COME ON! This is nothing more than the stupid "code name" theory that has been around for AGES.
    SonofSean wrote: »
    echo wrote: »
    Who is this guy? This theory is dumb.

    The 'guy' is David Zaritsky who runs the amazing site The Bond Experience. He does fantastic video blogs on all things Bond on Youtube. He visits locations, talks to tailors about "The Bond look". He knows his stuff & he's having fun (like we all are) speculating about Bond 25.
    Ok, but the code name theory has been around for many many years, possibly decades. Why is he acting like he is presenting a new idea? (And don't get me wrong, I LOVE David's youtube channel!)
  • nobodydoesitbetternobodydoesitbetter
    Posts: 1,021
    So disapointed to hear that Dennis Gassner isn't returning as production designer. Been a huge fan of his work since the 1991 film Bugsy. His work on QOS, SF and SP is some of the best in the BOND franchise since the days of KEN ADAMS. Hopefully Mark Tildesley will not disapoint! OH well. At least we will have Gassners stunning sets to admire at the end of December 2019 for the film "WICKED".
  • SatoriousSatorious Brushing up on a little Danish
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    I'm all for new people shaking it up a bit, otherwise things can feel a bit stale...
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    Posts: 4,113
    Satorious wrote: »
    I'm all for new people shaking it up a bit, otherwise things can feel a bit stale...
    This. Look at other Bonds that had the same crew for too long. TMWTGG, SP as prime examples. There was too much bad blood among the writers, the producers and the director. That's one of the reasons why it took longer for a follow up.
  • bondsumbondsum
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    The problems with TMWTGG and SP were under a set of entirely different circumstances @MaxCasino. TMWTGG was a rushed-into-production affair compared to SP. Had TMWTGG been afforded the same breathing space and development time as SP, it would not have been the same movie as we ended up with, though Roger Moore might’ve been close to 50 by the time he eventually made TSWLM.
  • Tuck91Tuck91
    Posts: 1,680
    Spectre gets too much heat. It's the longest most well shot traditional cinematic bond adventure since twine. It's a better & more enjoyable film than quantum of solace
  • RemingtonRemington I'll do anything for a woman with a knife.
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    Tuck91 wrote: »
    Spectre gets too much heat. It's the longest most well shot traditional cinematic bond adventure since twine. It's a better & more enjoyable film than quantum of solace

    Where's @Birdleson when we need him most?
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    Tuck91 wrote: »
    Spectre gets too much heat. It's the longest most well shot traditional cinematic bond adventure since twine. It's a better & more enjoyable film than quantum of solace

    Wow. Come on mate. I think it’s shot fine, not better than skyfall, I don’t remember the cinematography from Twine so that says a lot about that film and how is it more enjoyable than QOS, it’s a drag with no plot, with action scenes that are unexcting and a villain that sucks. Not to mention the dialogue sucks.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    mybudgetbond wrote: »
    It won't happen in the next film, but I wouldn't be adverse to Bond rebooting to the 50's/60's for Bond 26 onwards.

    I'm with you on that. I'd prefer that Bond be sent back to that era and stay there indefinitely. Why? It just works. Man from UNCLE was actually really good; Atomic Blonde (though not going back as far) also worked well as a period spy thriller. If Mad Men proved anything, it's audiences' thirst for that era, because if done well, it actually comments on current events.
    Tuck91 wrote: »
    Spectre gets too much heat. It's the longest most well shot traditional cinematic bond adventure since twine. It's a better & more enjoyable film than quantum of solace

    Indeed, SP isn't as bad as some here make it out to be. It's not a Top 10 Bond film for me, but it certainly isn't bottom 10, either.
  • RemingtonRemington I'll do anything for a woman with a knife.
    Posts: 1,533
    JamesBondKenya wrote: »
    Tuck91 wrote: »
    Spectre gets too much heat. It's the longest most well shot traditional cinematic bond adventure since twine. It's a better & more enjoyable film than quantum of solace

    Wow. Come on mate. I think it’s shot fine, not better than skyfall, I don’t remember the cinematography from Twine so that says a lot about that film and how is it more enjoyable than QOS, it’s a drag with no plot, with action scenes that are unexcting and a villain that sucks. Not to mention the dialogue sucks.

    What he said.
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    edited July 2018 Posts: 3,157
    TripAces wrote: »

    Indeed, SP isn't as bad as some here make it out to be.
    Agreed, but the fact is that the movie could have been a great Bond movie and it would have been very easy to fix what they had.
    Just to name a couple of things:

    - Do not use Skyfall tracks. A few themes here and there was fine and made sense (e.g. "Mother" as we see M's video) but too many tracks were simply copied and pasted into the SPECTRE score.
    - Remove the brother angle
    - Remove the character of Denbigh and the London scenes involving M and him. Instead, use more screentime to develop Bond and Madeleine's love story (or just make Madeleine a Bond girl like any others) and SPECTRE as villains.
    - Set the third act at Blofeld's lair.

    There are a few nitpicks here and there which would have to be fixed (such as the car chase) but these things alone would have vastly improved the movie.

    That said, QoS is far more enjoyable than SPECTRE as the latter drags on for too long because of all the M scenes in London and the uninteresting final act in London, whereas QoS' short time makes it delightful.
  • barryt007barryt007
    edited July 2018 Posts: 19,339
    Walecs wrote: »
    TripAces wrote: »

    Indeed, SP isn't as bad as some here make it out to be.
    Agreed, but the fact is that the movie could have been a great Bond movie and it would have been very easy to fix what they had.
    Just to name a couple of things:

    - Do not use Skyfall tracks. A few themes here and there was fine and made sense (e.g. "Mother" as we see M's video) but too many tracks were simply copied and pasted into the SPECTRE score.
    - Remove the brother angle
    - Remove the character of Denbigh and the London scenes involving M and him. Instead, use more screentime to develop Bond and Madeleine's love story (or just make Madeleine a Bond girl like any others) and SPECTRE as villains.
    - Set the third act at Blofeld's lair.

    There are a few nitpicks here and there which would have to be fixed (such as the car chase) but these things alone would have vastly improved the movie.

    That said, QoS is far more enjoyable than SPECTRE as the latter drags on for too long because of all the M scenes in London and the uninteresting final act in London, whereas QoS' short time makes it delightful.

    .
  • barryt007barryt007
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    B25 or B26 will not be a 60's period piece and SP is NOT better than QOS....there,the Bazza has spoken.
  • Pierce2DanielPierce2Daniel
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    More Danny Boyle film news - Boyle is set to direct a film about Brexit that has covers the referendum.

    https://twitter.com/search?q=Danny Boyle&src=tyah

    Possible hints about Bond 25's direction?

  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
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    New photos of Craig.



    https://www.google.com/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5994507/amp/Liverpool-stars-pose-photos-Reds-fan-James-Bond-actor-Daniel-Crai.html
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    bondsum wrote: »
    Had TMWTGG been afforded the same breathing space and development time as SP, it would not have been the same movie as we ended up with, though Roger Moore might’ve been close to 50 by the time he eventually made TSWLM.
    ...which he was.
  • fanbond123fanbond123
    edited July 2018 Posts: 1,661
    I won't put the link up here because it's about another spy film - Mission Impossible: Fallout - but it's a New York Post lamenting the current style of Bond films. I think it's worth checking out because it's does discuss the current state of the Bond franchise and suggests the franchise has lost its way. I don't think the criticism will worry EON, I'm sure they're happy with Danny Boyle's approach. I doubt he is influenced by the MI films. I can't imagine Bond 25 will draw inspiration from MI:Fallout.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    fanbond123 wrote: »
    I won't put the link up here because it's about another spy film - Mission Impossible: Fallout - but it's a New York Post lamenting the current style of Bond films. I think it's worth checking out because it's does discuss the current state of the Bond franchise and suggests the franchise has lost its way. I don't think the criticism will worry EON, I'm sure they're happy with Danny Boyle's approach. I doubt he is influenced by the MI films. I can't imagine Bond 25 will draw inspiration from MI:Fallout.

    From what I have seen, MI isn’t doing much that is new: many of the stunts across that franchise’s films are Bond rehashing and retooling.
  • fanbond123fanbond123
    edited July 2018 Posts: 1,661
    Competition is good for Bond, don't ya think? I reckon so. Keeps EON from getting too complacent.

    Daniel Craig isn't as crazy as Tom Cruise so I don't expect him to do all of his stunt work but if the Bond producers see Fallout and are impressed with the action it might influence their direction when making Bond 25. And there's no harm if Danny Boyle sees Fallout and it gives him some ideas how to frame some of the action. I'm just going on the very positive reviews of Fallout. I've not seen it so I can't comment how cool the action is, but the word is very positive.
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