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Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • ToTheRightToTheRight
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    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    While I like the GE fight very much (top five) I agree that it does have an over-choreographed 'stop' 'start' feel to it at times and I also agree with @peter that Brosnan does appear a bit rehearsed. He comes across a bit effete to me in that encounter (partly because of his thin frame too) while Bean is all masculine aggression.

    It's only with the printing factory fight in TND that I realized it would be difficult for him to be really effective in a fight scene. He just couldn't throw a punch credibly imho. To quote him, he didn't "put his back into it".

    His added bulk in DAD helped in that department I thought. To bad there wasn't really a more solid fisticuffs sequence in that film along the lines of the Sean Bean fight.
    A beer belly isn t an advantage in a fight.

    Of course, with the exception of Tim and Laz, one might argue they all had a bit of a beer belly at one point. I think the Connery of DAF could have taken the Pierce of DAD with no worries.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    While I like the GE fight very much (top five) I agree that it does have an over-choreographed 'stop' 'start' feel to it at times and I also agree with @peter that Brosnan does appear a bit rehearsed. He comes across a bit effete to me in that encounter (partly because of his thin frame too) while Bean is all masculine aggression.

    It's only with the printing factory fight in TND that I realized it would be difficult for him to be really effective in a fight scene. He just couldn't throw a punch credibly imho. To quote him, he didn't "put his back into it".

    His added bulk in DAD helped in that department I thought. To bad there wasn't really a more solid fisticuffs sequence in that film along the lines of the Sean Bean fight.
    A beer belly isn t an advantage in a fight.

    Of course, with the exception of Tim and Laz, one might argue they all had a bit of a beer belly at one point. I think the Connery of DAF could have taken the Pierce of DAD with no worries.

    Absolutely. No doubt about that.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    @Thunderfinger and @ToTheRight, SC in a wheelchair would kick Brosnan's ass. Beer belly, or not...
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Never underestimate a man. Just saying. ;)
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    No, @ClarkDevlin, never underestimate THE MAN.... :)
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Regardless. ;)
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
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    I always thought Brosnan's fight scenes were great in GE, even the short little scrap on the yacht is really well done, but it definitely wasn't one of his strongest points as Bond. I think we can put it down to Campbell. The guy is just brilliant at making action scenes feel proper intense, which sort of compensated for Brosnan not being the most physical.

    The TND ones are really poor in comparison to GE. I think TWINE is a step up though. He does a few cool little takedown moves through the film, like in the bankers office and when he pins the guy to the bar in the casino, and I actually really like the submarine fight. I think how sloppy it is works really well in context (Renard is a terrorist not a trained fighter, and Bond is exhausted) and it feels really passionate to me, a proper slugfest, like they both really hate eachother.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Now that you put it that way, I see a different perspective in that confrontation with Renard in the end. Good analysis.
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    peter wrote: »
    Yes @Ludovico: he sells this one-on-one with a naturalness; yes he’s fierce, and yes, he’s trying to kill Bond in the most painful of ways as @bondjames said, BUT, the actor was always in control and made it look completely natural.

    Brosnan, the actor, looked as if he was going through what they trained for in rehearsals. He doesn’t flow with the combat. Not the way Bean does. Not by a long shot.

    What’s more disappointing is to see how generic Brosnan-Bond became in his fight sequences. The training that they were trying to convey in GE never made a comeback.

    The same disappointment could be said for DC to a degree; with Mendes came a more stylized way of fighting that took a step away from DC-reality; both fights with Patrice (although I loved them) weren’t as grounded as what we saw in his first two films (the less said about the casino fight, the better).

    This is why I didn’t love the Hinx battle as much as I was hoping. Even if Bond was on the losing end of this battle, I was hoping to see him lose while using his unarmed combat training (instead of just throwing punches and hopping up on a bar to swing a kick— seemed very Moore’ish in parts). I wasn’t necessarily in fear for Bond’s life as I was in the stairwell fight or the excellent Slate punch-up...

    And what’s this about a missing scar??

    I watched the fight again and couldn't see the burnt scar.

    Back on topic: if he wasn't too old already I think Fassbender would be out now. If recent claims of domestic abuses are true.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    Back on topic: if he wasn't too old already I think Fassbender would be out now. If recent claims of domestic abuses are true.
    Those are old claims. Let's see what #MeToo and TimesUp do with it now.
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Back on topic: if he wasn't too old already I think Fassbender would be out now. If recent claims of domestic abuses are true.
    Those are old claims. Let's see what #MeToo and TimesUp do with it now.

    Maybe. But Fassbender is not getting any younger either.

    Come to think of it, in our day and age it might be safer to give the role to a gay actor. (I'm joking of course).
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited February 2018 Posts: 23,883
    Ludovico wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Back on topic: if he wasn't too old already I think Fassbender would be out now. If recent claims of domestic abuses are true.
    Those are old claims. Let's see what #MeToo and TimesUp do with it now.

    Maybe. But Fassbender is not getting any younger either.

    Come to think of it, in our day and age it might be safer to give the role to a gay actor. (I'm joking of course).
    True, age is against him. I don't see him getting it, even though I've always felt he would have been perfect.

    There's no doubt that EON will have to do a full background (and perhaps even a Bond style psych eval) check on the next chap. We don't want any unfortunate blow-ups or unsavoury revelations mid-tenure.
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    Or starting his tenure even.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    bondjames wrote: »

    There's no doubt that EON will have to do a full background (and perhaps even a Bond style psych eval) check on the next chap. We don't want any unfortunate blow-ups or unsavoury revelations mid-tenure.

    The sad thing is that we’re reaching, or have reached, a point where an accusation equals guilt. Once the actor is cast, who knows how many disgruntled, not abused, exes will come out of the woodwork?
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited February 2018 Posts: 23,883
    talos7 wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »

    There's no doubt that EON will have to do a full background (and perhaps even a Bond style psych eval) check on the next chap. We don't want any unfortunate blow-ups or unsavoury revelations mid-tenure.

    The sad thing is that we’re reaching, or have reached, a point where an accusation equals guilt. Once the actor is cast, who knows how many disgruntled, not abused, exes will come out of the woodwork?
    Quite true. Evidentiary standards and burdens of proof (not to mention the basic presumption of innocence which underpins the justice system) seem to have been thrown out the window. What strange times we live in. Once emotion takes over, it's game over for society as we know it. Anarchy.
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    talos7 wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »

    There's no doubt that EON will have to do a full background (and perhaps even a Bond style psych eval) check on the next chap. We don't want any unfortunate blow-ups or unsavoury revelations mid-tenure.

    The sad thing is that we’re reaching, or have reached, a point where an accusation equals guilt. Once the actor is cast, who knows how many disgruntled, not abused, exes will come out of the woodwork?

    Not to mention jealous new boyfriends of exes, plain slanderers, etc.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    Sean Connery wouldn’t be cast as bond today if he were eligible because of his comments on slapping women. Just something to think about
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    JamesBondKenya wrote: »
    Sean Connery wouldn’t be cast as bond today if he were eligible because of his comments on slapping women. Just something to think about
    Don't say that too loudly now. In the times we live in there'll be some who will see fit to take to the streets, boycott his Bond films (or all Bond films) and create twitter hashtags to voice their disdain.
  • fanbond123fanbond123
    edited February 2018 Posts: 1,661
    Given the internet and how social media comments can come back to haunt famous people, the next Bond actor should delete his social media accounts! Stay away from the internet, Mr future Bond. But if you wanna post on MI6, we don't mind. :P
    bondjames wrote: »
    How about this guy? He's thrown his hat in the ring, and I and a few others think he would be a good choice, given his work on Ragnarok and Rush.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5355489/Chris-Hemsworth-confirms-hed-James-Bond-role.html

    I think a lot of actors use Bond as self-promotion. Hemsworth doesn't need the self-promotion. I'm sure most film goers know him from Thor so who knows, perhaps he's genuine about playing the role. My gut feeling is Babs and MG would choose a British actor over an Australian.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    fanbond123 wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    How about this guy? He's thrown his hat in the ring, and I and a few others think he would be a good choice, given his work on Ragnarok and Rush.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5355489/Chris-Hemsworth-confirms-hed-James-Bond-role.html

    I think a lot of actors use Bond as self-promotion. Hemsworth doesn't need the self-promotion. I'm sure most film goers know him from Thor so who knows, perhaps he's genuine about playing the role. My gut feeling is Babs and MG would choose a British actor over an Australian.
    His contract with Marvel is up. I think that's why it's become a topic of discussion. Quite a few of the original group have contracts that are coming to an end shortly.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    The thing is, many of the actors are simply responding to a hypothetical posed by an interviewer, ‘ would you be interested in playing James Bond. This then becomes actor X is chasing the part or at least throwing his hat in the ring.
  • fanbond123fanbond123
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    I suppose he's got as good a chance as any. If he's not making any more Marvel movies then you can't blame him for looking at other big roles. Henry Cavill's DC contract will be up come the release of Bond 26?
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    fanbond123 wrote: »
    I suppose he's got as good a chance as any. If he's not making any more Marvel movies then you can't blame him for looking at other big roles. Henry Cavill's DC contract will be up come the release of Bond 26?
    True. Hiddleston is done with Avengers 4 (along with Hemsworth) too.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Tom Hardy overtakes Norton as favourite.

    https://www.standard.co.uk/showbiz/celebrity-news/tom-hardy-new-favourite-to-play-james-bond-over-mcmafia-s-james-norton-a3764951.html
  • fanbond123fanbond123
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    Let's just hope the next James Bond actor is not decided by Daily Mail readers:

    Bear18, USA, 1 week ago

    I know this sounds bad. But I really don't care if he can act well. I just want to look at him. Lol

    Juniper Whip-Nutkins, Margate, United Kingdom, 1 week ago

    I don't want another hot white male playing Bond. Meryl Streep or Beyonce would be good choices.

    Yes, thanks for that contribution. Very helpful. :P




  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    bondjames wrote: »
    JamesBondKenya wrote: »
    Sean Connery wouldn’t be cast as bond today if he were eligible because of his comments on slapping women. Just something to think about
    Don't say that too loudly now. In the times we live in there'll be some who will see fit to take to the streets, boycott his Bond films (or all Bond films) and create twitter hashtags to voice their disdain.

    They can for all I care, I have the films on blu ray and dvd and vhs and they can’t take that away from me
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    fanbond123 wrote: »
    Let's just hope the next James Bond actor is not decided by Daily Mail readers:

    Bear18, USA, 1 week ago

    I know this sounds bad. But I really don't care if he can act well. I just want to look at him. Lol

    Juniper Whip-Nutkins, Margate, United Kingdom, 1 week ago

    I don't want another hot white male playing Bond. Meryl Streep or Beyonce would be good choices.

    Yes, thanks for that contribution. Very helpful. :P
    Idiots. And I mean that sincerely.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Bear18 has a point. They place too much importance on the acting ability these days. There are lots of things that matter with Bond, but disappearing into the role isn't one of them. Moore and Connery were playing a relaxed version of themselves once they got comfortable in the role, and that's what we love them for.

    First they need to work out what direction they want to take the series next, and then look for the person that best fits that direction.
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
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    Selecting an unknown might end up being the best option; almost every famous actor considered for the role sounds off-putting to me.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    JamesBondKenya wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    JamesBondKenya wrote: »
    Sean Connery wouldn’t be cast as bond today if he were eligible because of his comments on slapping women. Just something to think about
    Don't say that too loudly now. In the times we live in there'll be some who will see fit to take to the streets, boycott his Bond films (or all Bond films) and create twitter hashtags to voice their disdain.

    They can for all I care, I have the films on blu ray and dvd and vhs and they can’t take that away from me
    That's the way to do it. If you rely on streaming you may not the get the original cut in the future at the rate things are going.
    FoxRox wrote: »
    Selecting an unknown might end up being the best option; almost every famous actor considered for the role sounds off-putting to me.
    Not to me, thankfully.
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    First they need to work out what direction they want to take the series next, and then look for the person that best fits that direction.
    I agree.
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