Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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    Here is what I’m trying to say: you, people, are looking for ready Bond, instead of looking for a good versatile actor with nice appearance, who can bring something new in the role. In my opinion, Turner can do this (not only with Bond role but with any role he’ll play), someone else thinks otherwise… But we can’t decide anything, can we?

    So, this was tough but good exercise in my English :bz

    As I've now said twice, that's not the case at all. I've seen Turner act, and I don't find him to be a "good, versatile actor with nice appearance". The idea that us "people" who haven't seen the light on Turner have only reached that opinion because we haven't seen him in action on the screen is, quite simply, wrong.

    Based on what I've seen of Turner, I don't see him bringing anything new to the role. Even his most ardent supporter on this site has described him as "Dalton-lite", which is about what I'd imagine he'd bring to the part: some of what Dalton did, but watered-down, with a mix of Brosnan. Can't say that this would interest me at all.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    We already had one actor who did " "-lite. I wouldn't want that again.

    Having said that, I've not seen Turner in action, so can't comment on his acting prowess. The photos are not helping his case imho.
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    bondjames wrote: »
    We already had one actor who did " "-lite. I wouldn't want that again.

    Having said that, I've not seen Turner in action, so can't comment on his acting prowess. The photos are not helping his case imho.

    They really aren't. Couldn't agree more.

    Even still, the photos aren't the main issue. Daniel Craig certainly didn't look the part when he was being rumored for it back in 2005. I do take exception to the idea posed that I'm one of those "people" looking for a "ready Bond", especially when if you could go back and look at the discussions taking place on CBn back in 2005 when the search was underway (which isn't possible as the archives and search system make it impossible to do so), you'd see that I was the second person to get on board with the idea of Daniel Craig over on that site, long before he was ever cast in the role (and back when he was being ridiculed from virtually every direction), so I do feel as though I know what it is I'm looking for when it comes to my preference of Bond, and I can say without a doubt that I do not see anything like that in Turner which I saw in Craig back then.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    bondjames wrote: »
    We already had one actor who did " "-lite. I wouldn't want that again.

    Having said that, I've not seen Turner in action, so can't comment on his acting prowess. The photos are not helping his case imho.

    Agreed. Haven't seen him in anything, and the pictures only make his case worse.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Turner is an awful suggestion.
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    @Cristina - I certainly understand fandom, but in this case, everything you could possdibly say has already been said - MANY times over by our boy Mendes. There is nothing new, you could possibly add and people here have become a bit prickly about the subject. Best give it a rest. I think, at this point, the best you could do for him is - not talk about him.
  • SzonanaSzonana Mexico
    edited June 2016 Posts: 1,130
    Now i think if Craig would started in 2016 instead of 2006 he could have possibly resigned Craig'snotBond is kids stuff compared to ehat we have right now.

    Im afraid Barbara will have to play it safe this time around because the internet people are way more vocal.
    So im feeling like we won't see someone very different to Craig maybe an unknown actor but who slightly looks like Daniel Craig or everyone's fear a true pretty Boy and niether Hidleston or Turner fit in this mold of real pretty boys.

    A real pretty Boy would be someone like the Hemsworth brothers Kellan Lutz or Ian Summerhalder.

    Now posible safe choice would obviously handsome like : Jamie Dornan.


    Im not suggesting those guys im just giving examples of the guys who fit each type of the safe choices for Bond : Though guy, Pretty Boy or obvious good looks.
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    Szonana, all the pretty boys you mentioned are better then Dorman . he is so bland and forgettable IMO. He is my dream cast because the world would hate him as Bond ;)
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    Germanlady wrote: »
    Szonana, all the pretty boys you mentioned are better then Dorman . he is so bland and forgettable IMO. He is my dream cast because the world would hate him as Bond ;)

    I would have to agree. I also don't see EON going for Dornan. I just can't see them wanting to cast the lead of Fifty Shades of Grey as Bond, especially given the ridicule that franchise and book series seems to generate.

  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    dalton wrote: »
    Germanlady wrote: »
    Szonana, all the pretty boys you mentioned are better then Dorman . he is so bland and forgettable IMO. He is my dream cast because the world would hate him as Bond ;)

    I would have to agree. I also don't see EON going for Dornan. I just can't see them wanting to cast the lead of Fifty Shades of Grey as Bond, especially given the ridicule that franchise and book series seems to generate.
    I agree. I think he basically blew whatever chances he had when he signed up for that franchise. I'll admit I used to see him as a potential candidate, but no more.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    edited June 2016 Posts: 5,131
    dalton wrote: »

    Here is what I’m trying to say: you, people, are looking for ready Bond, instead of looking for a good versatile actor with nice appearance, who can bring something new in the role. In my opinion, Turner can do this (not only with Bond role but with any role he’ll play), someone else thinks otherwise… But we can’t decide anything, can we?

    So, this was tough but good exercise in my English :bz

    As I've now said twice, that's not the case at all. I've seen Turner act, and I don't find him to be a "good, versatile actor with nice appearance". The idea that us "people" who haven't seen the light on Turner have only reached that opinion because we haven't seen him in action on the screen is, quite simply, wrong.

    Based on what I've seen of Turner, I don't see him bringing anything new to the role. Even his most ardent supporter on this site has described him as "Dalton-lite", which is about what I'd imagine he'd bring to the part: some of what Dalton did, but watered-down, with a mix of Brosnan. Can't say that this would interest me at all.

    Totally agree with @Dalton. I've also seen Turner act. He lacks screen presence and he's not 'a Bond'. He's great in the TV roles he currently inhabits but he lacks 'star quality '. I've reached my own opinion that he would be a crap choice for 007.
  • Germanlady wrote: »
    @Cristina - I certainly understand fandom, but in this case, everything you could possdibly say has already been said - MANY times over by our boy Mendes. There is nothing new, you could possibly add and people here have become a bit prickly about the subject. Best give it a rest. I think, at this point, the best you could do for him is - not talk about him.

    Thank you very much, Germanlady, for your advice, I will follow it, because, as you wisely said once, people see and believe what they want to see or believe and it is impossible and unnecessary to convince everyone on something. But first I must say that I’m here not for Bond, Bond isn’t my favorite movie hero and I don’t care who will play him next (hey, we don’t choose Bond here and now, do we?). I don’t even care weather Aidan will be Bond (I think, most likely not), but actually if he is Bond, I’ll watch Bond, if his next role is a tree in the forest, I’ll watch forest. That’s all.

    However I know that you will understand me properly: it is absolutely impossible to give it a rest and be calm when people are telling something bad about our favorites! So if someone isn’t familiar with who Aidan Turner is, please, know that (1) he is not “pretty boy”, (2) he is not “wooden actor”, (3) if he had no charisma and screen presence, his Poldark could not have become so successful, because the entire show is based in large part on the charisma of the leading man (btw, those series have also a strong literary foundation, reasonable storyline, compelling complex characters and great acting of all the actors, so you might like it, and it is translated on Deutsch, if you choose to watch it).

    Also it is normal that people have different opinions about things, but all our thoughts are just opinions, not the holy truth. And I’d like to show everyone some other opinions: “he looks silly and not capable”, “I have never thought he was a very good actor in the first place”, “he was one of the worst”, “he's irritating as bond and just in general”, “I'd never watch one of these Bond movies with this wimpish 007 at the helm”, “Daniel Craig is a mediocre actor who had a few lucky breaks. He always seems very uncomfortable with the fame his career has brought” (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3597822/I-m-007-Craig-tells-Bond-movie-bosses-Actor-turns-68m-deal-two-films.html#reader-comments).

    Well, I think we all agree at least on one thing: all the above-quoted opinions about Daniel are from our point of view just bullshit!

  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    edited June 2016 Posts: 5,131
    suavejmf wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Shrugs Aidan Turner to me is like Clive Owen looks ok but I haven't seen him in anything and YouTube has dozens of interviews but no scenes of him wel acting if someone can show me a scene of him acting not a picture not a gif but an actual scene then we will talk Untill then...

    Turner - TV actor lacking screen presence and a vague resemblance to the comic strip 007.

    I'll repeat myself as well then.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Aidan is no head Turner.
  • edited June 2016 Posts: 1,661
    Given the news today it looks like Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn may have enough spare time to play Bond...

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  • SzonanaSzonana Mexico
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    Germanlady wrote: »
    Szonana, all the pretty boys you mentioned are better then Dorman . he is so bland and forgettable IMO. He is my dream cast because the world would hate him as Bond ;)

    Lol, you really refuse to see anyone else as Bond who is not Criag, but i cn understand it i was similar with Pierce when he was about to leave the franchise but now im more open to give the chance to like the other actors as Bond.

    And don't worry no matter how succesful the next Bond is Craig has earned his place as one of the best Bond actors, he might briefly been hatted like for a few months but he will latter be loved again.

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    Yes, I hope. Right now, he has made it impossible for himself to come back with any credibility. Too much of his own talk and too much of press crap.

    As for Dorman - come on - he really is not very attrractive. He almost sank the first Fifty film. Every underwear model is more attractive and could do that job better.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited June 2016 Posts: 15,423
    Soooo.... The next Bond will be an underwear model? :-?
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    Dear Clark - I talked about Shades of Grey. ;)) Foor that role, you just had to look good naked and IMO, he doesn't even fit that part. He is just average.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    No worries at all, @Germanlady. I was only being jocular. :))
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    @Germanlady wrote : " He's just average "

    Perhaps you've just been spoiled by seeing too many handsome German hunks ? ;)
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    Naa, look at his body. Nothing to write home about. The face is meh, not handsome imo
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    I agree that Jamie blew it by taking on 50 Shades. Hiddle may have done the same with his recent expose and Turner is for all intents and purposes a walking underwear model, based on all these recent photos cropping up here. Craig unleashed hell with what was essentially a Sunspel swimwear ad in CR it seems.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    50 shades a bad very soft porn flick, which I'm sure if he's not already
    Embarrassed about, he will be. :D
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    He can't be too embarrassed as he's doing the sequel.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    As I pointed out, maybe not now but he will be embarrassed in years to come, and
    Perhaps sees his contemporaries getting roles, he has missed out on.
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
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    Germanlady wrote: »
    Yes, I hope. Right now, he has made it impossible for himself to come back with any credibility. Too much of his own talk and too much of press crap.

    As for Dorman - come on - he really is not very attractive. He almost sank the first Fifty film. Every underwear model is more attractive and could do that job better.

    I haven't seen the 50 Shades movie, but I first saw Dornan in 'The Fall' on TV with Gillian Anderson, and he was/is terrific in that as a cold hearted serial killer. He certainly had charisma.

    Googling him though he does look better with a beard than without, which sort of goes against him being cast as Bond.
    However, I would prefer him to Turner.
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    NicNac wrote: »
    Germanlady wrote: »
    Yes, I hope. Right now, he has made it impossible for himself to come back with any credibility. Too much of his own talk and too much of press crap.

    As for Dorman - come on - he really is not very attractive. He almost sank the first Fifty film. Every underwear model is more attractive and could do that job better.

    I haven't seen the 50 Shades movie, but I first saw Dornan in 'The Fall' on TV with Gillian Anderson, and he was/is terrific in that as a cold hearted serial killer. He certainly had charisma.

    Googling him though he does look better with a beard than without, which sort of goes against him being cast as Bond.
    However, I would prefer him to Turner.
    I went to see 50 shades as compensation for something else with my (then) girlfriend. I can tell you, after only ten minutes my debt was payed back in full and every minute afterwards would have been returned. It's so inconvincing you really wonder how a film like this came to be made, and he's no good at all in it. The least convincing businessman since bugs bunny wore a bowler hat.
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    I wonder if the 50 Shades sequel will be a success. Did anyone actually like the first one at all? I saw the trailer - twice I think - when I went to watch something else, and that alone was totally uninteresting and boring , and it's not like there were big stars, either, so I'm surprised so many people went to see it. But I've never yet heard of anyone enjoying it. The idea of paying to see it is unthinkable to me, I'd rather pay the ticket price for not having to watch it.

    Apparently I've seen Dornan in Marie Antoinette, but I don't remember him, so I have no opinion of him as an actor. I will see Anthropoid, which he happens to be in.
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    Shades will bomb big time. You don't need no crystal ball to know that. People went out of interest for the books, but were disappointed. No2 nobody will go see.
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