Dynamite's Bond comics and graphic novels

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  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    Yes!!! Very awesome.
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    a period piece grrr I was hoping based on Craig's film and utilizing the Craig era redoing the various novels as if hey happened in Craig's tenure
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    edited July 2016 Posts: 4,116
    Risico007 wrote: »
    a period piece grrr I was hoping based on Craig's film and utilizing the Craig era redoing the various novels as if hey happened in Craig's tenure

    Nope that was Dynamite's and IMF's plan from the start.

    Besides Dynamite doesn't have the rights to all that and it would jack up the price.

    CR is a Craig film anyway so what on earth would Dynamite add to it?

    BUT I do agree with you that that would be nice. Remember Dynamite is also publishing monthly comics set in present day.
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    The first installment of the new story is already an improvement on the whole previous 007 story in this series.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    SaintMark wrote: »
    The first installment of the new story is already an improvement on the whole previous 007 story in this series.

    Yes Eidolon is quite good so far. I enjoyed Vargr as well.

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    Vargr was allright, nothing spectacular. Eidolon is starting off quite well and with the re-visioning of Flemings Casino Royal they might actually really inpress me.

    Love the book, the movie is good but lacks the Flemingesque style of the book. Lets hope the comic can catch the mood.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    edited July 2016 Posts: 4,116
    SaintMark wrote: »
    Vargr was allright, nothing spectacular. Eidolon is starting off quite well and with the re-visioning of Flemings Casino Royal they might actually really inpress me.

    Love the book, the movie is good but lacks the Flemingesque style of the book. Lets hope the comic can catch the mood.

    Let's hope your right. What impressed me about Vargr was Ellis's update and characterization of Bond. Easy enough argument that there is nothing that spectacular or new beyond that.

    However I still enjoyed it. But yes I agree I'm enjoying Eidolon more than Vargr. So too are critics and fans overall based on reviews and comments.

    Hoping draws in even more fans.
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    mcdonbb wrote: »
    It's already out, @mcdonbb.

    Oh ok ...thanks.

    I took delivery yesterday and frankly, it's a huge disappointment.
    I find the story weak and the visualisation appalling.
    When I compare it to McClusky's fine artwork of the '60s it just isn't at the races. Bond looks completely lumpen - for masochistic completists only!
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    It's not for everyone.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    mcdonbb wrote: »
    It's already out, @mcdonbb.

    Oh ok ...thanks.

    I took delivery yesterday and frankly, it's a huge disappointment.
    I find the story weak and the visualisation appalling.
    When I compare it to McClusky's fine artwork of the '60s it just isn't at the races. Bond looks completely lumpen - for masochistic completists only!

    Where you a fan of SP?
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Chaps, here are a few things

    From Matthew Southworth's twitter account...

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    He referred to these as Secret Project, but those who have read the novel will immediately know which parts are these...

    @mcdonbb @doubleoego @00Agent @0BradyM0Bondfanatic7
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    mcdonbb wrote: »
    mcdonbb wrote: »
    It's already out, @mcdonbb.

    Oh ok ...thanks.

    I took delivery yesterday and frankly, it's a huge disappointment.
    I find the story weak and the visualisation appalling.
    When I compare it to McClusky's fine artwork of the '60s it just isn't at the races. Bond looks completely lumpen - for masochistic completists only!

    Where you a fan of SP?

    Unfortunately no.
    As fare as the movies go I belong to the school that thinks CR and SF were passable.
    OHMSS was the last good one and FRWL was the last and only great one.

  • Posts: 520
    Chaps, here are a few things

    From Matthew Southworth's twitter account...

    Ck200v-UgAAlB14.jpg:large
    ClC4eDzVYAAks29.jpg:large
    ClC4eDmVAAAAtLr.jpg:large

    He referred to these as Secret Project, but those who have read the novel will immediately know which parts are these...

    @mcdonbb @doubleoego @00Agent @0BradyM0Bondfanatic7

    Why can't they draw Bond ?
    Fleming's descriptions are very clear and McClusky captured him perfectly.
    I just don't understand. This visualisation looks like a caricature of Barbie's boyfriend Ken !
    Isn't there some sort of interview for this that starts with 'please show me your drawing of Bond?'

  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Mathis looks like Tony Curtis in his last panel. :))

    Although, @PussyNoMore, I have to admit I have the exact feelings about these new actors that are picked as "candidates" for the role...
  • edited July 2016 Posts: 3,564
    mcdonbb wrote: »
    mcdonbb wrote: »
    It's already out, @mcdonbb.

    Oh ok ...thanks.

    I took delivery yesterday and frankly, it's a huge disappointment.
    I find the story weak and the visualisation appalling.
    When I compare it to McClusky's fine artwork of the '60s it just isn't at the races. Bond looks completely lumpen - for masochistic completists only!

    Where you a fan of SP?

    Unfortunately no.
    As fare as the movies go I belong to the school that thinks CR and SF were passable.
    OHMSS was the last good one and FRWL was the last and only great one.

    So you've been disappointed for 50+ years then, and still you keep hoping for better. Dedication or lunacy, who can say? While I've got FRWL at the top of my own rankings, I've also found something worth enjoying in the other films as well. Maybe you've got higher standards than me...or maybe I've just got a more realistic set of expectations.

    I think Eidolon (so far) has been a more successful attempt at adapting Bond into a monthly comic book package than was VARGR. The problem with VARGR (I think) is that it was paced to be read in collected format, rather than in 22 page installments. The extended opening sequence -- sort of a PTS in comic book form -- used up a lot of the first issue to little real effect, and the rest of that first issue was just character stuff (plus a scene with some junkies that never really seemed to connect with our main story all that well.) Bond meets with M & gets his mission, Bond interacts w/ Moneypenny & Tanner, and then...well, wait until next issue for our story to really get started, folks! This approach may work when the whole story is collected, but it didn't really give a satisfactory Bond experience when read on an issue-by-issue, one month at a time, fashion. Eidolon is much better in this regard: we meet our villain, get some political machinations, have a nice scene with Bond & Leiter, meet our Bond girl for this storyline, & have a nice action sequence with some espionage/intrigue thrown into the mix. If there had been an extra page available, a shakennotstirred martini would have rounded out the package nicely. As it is, JB007 #7/Eidolon Part 1 was a perfectly satisfactory issue to my eyes only. Your mileage may vary.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    edited July 2016 Posts: 4,116
    mcdonbb wrote: »
    mcdonbb wrote: »
    It's already out, @mcdonbb.

    Oh ok ...thanks.

    I took delivery yesterday and frankly, it's a huge disappointment.
    I find the story weak and the visualisation appalling.
    When I compare it to McClusky's fine artwork of the '60s it just isn't at the races. Bond looks completely lumpen - for masochistic completists only!

    Where you a fan of SP?

    Unfortunately no.
    As fare as the movies go I belong to the school that thinks CR and SF were passable.
    OHMSS was the last good one and FRWL was the last and only great one.

    I wasn't either ...

    And BeatlesSansEarmuffs I agree.. after reading Eidolon #1 I pretty much read that as a pts moving Haywood's intro post title.

    Yes Vargr was hindered in my opinion by its format. So much more could have been fleshed out.

    But compared to where the cinematic Bond bottomed out at with SP Vargr was the Bond I wanted to see.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Don't know how I feel about the art. Granted, they're rough artist's layouts to design the panels and brainstorm, and the final version has a chance to really polish the figures out. Still, that does not scream Vesper to me, or Mathis, or Bond. When I think of Vesper I picture a Lauren Bacall-esque woman with long, jet black hair, and an even darker gaze, with a bit of haunted mystery behind it. This woman looks far more like Daniela Bianchi than anything else.
    Mathis looks like Tony Curtis in his last panel. :))

    Although, @PussyNoMore, I have to admit I have the exact feelings about these new actors that are picked as "candidates" for the role...

    @ClarkDevlin, but this is very different. When casting a film, you have to balance a lot of plates in casting and make compromises. One actor may look more like Bond than another, but lack a certain presence or charm, so you have to go farther beyond just finding somebody like fits closer to Fleming's Bond look wise, and instead at the bigger picture of the performance. This of course makes it very difficult to find somebody who fits the Fleming Bond mold perfectly and can give a cracking performance with all the demanded talents possessed.

    In comics and any art, however, you can draw anything you want, and make Bond look like anything you want him to be. With this new period piece comics series, which has a real chance to make a mark on the industry and in the Bond fandom, now is the time to really give us Fleming's Bond in this form, in a big, big way like we've never seen before.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited July 2016 Posts: 15,423
    I am more than sure this isn't the final piece of what are we going to get. As for the actors, I do agree acting talent is more required than the looks, but looks also play a huge part in the character's image and portrayal. They'd have to pick someone who's convincing with the look in the role alone, and Bond has to ever look as powerful as he behaves like one, not being a 12 year old "adventurer", which is why today we are on a Bond actor crisis (that is, when Craig decides to leave).

    With the drawing of Bond, though, in VARGR (and Eidolon) he does look as convincing as Fleming's Bond akin to the thematic of the modern times. I've no complaints about that.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    I am more than sure this isn't thew final piece of what are we going to get. As for the actors, I do agree acting talent is more required than the looks, but looks also play a huge part in the character's image and portrayal. They'd have to pick someone who's convincing with the look in the role alone, and Bond has to ever look as powerful as he behaves like one, not being a 12 year old "adventurer", which is why today we are on a Bond actor crisis (that is, when Craig decides to leave).

    With the drawing of Bond, though, in VARGR (and Eidolon) he does look as convincing as Fleming's Bond akin to the thematic of the modern times. I've no complaints about that.

    Agreed. And all the complaints that he looks like Archer forget Archer is trying to look like Bond albeit generic.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    mcdonbb wrote: »
    I am more than sure this isn't thew final piece of what are we going to get. As for the actors, I do agree acting talent is more required than the looks, but looks also play a huge part in the character's image and portrayal. They'd have to pick someone who's convincing with the look in the role alone, and Bond has to ever look as powerful as he behaves like one, not being a 12 year old "adventurer", which is why today we are on a Bond actor crisis (that is, when Craig decides to leave).

    With the drawing of Bond, though, in VARGR (and Eidolon) he does look as convincing as Fleming's Bond akin to the thematic of the modern times. I've no complaints about that.

    Agreed. And all the complaints that he looks like Archer forget Archer is trying to look like Bond albeit generic.
    It's true that the Bond of the Ellis incarnation shares many traits with Archer. And truly to admit, I couldn't be more glad for that.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    mcdonbb wrote: »
    I am more than sure this isn't thew final piece of what are we going to get. As for the actors, I do agree acting talent is more required than the looks, but looks also play a huge part in the character's image and portrayal. They'd have to pick someone who's convincing with the look in the role alone, and Bond has to ever look as powerful as he behaves like one, not being a 12 year old "adventurer", which is why today we are on a Bond actor crisis (that is, when Craig decides to leave).

    With the drawing of Bond, though, in VARGR (and Eidolon) he does look as convincing as Fleming's Bond akin to the thematic of the modern times. I've no complaints about that.

    Agreed. And all the complaints that he looks like Archer forget Archer is trying to look like Bond albeit generic.
    It's true that the Bond of the Ellis incarnation shares many traits with Archer. And truly to admit, I couldn't be more glad for that.

    Yes I like Bond's look here
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    mcdonbb wrote: »
    mcdonbb wrote: »
    I am more than sure this isn't thew final piece of what are we going to get. As for the actors, I do agree acting talent is more required than the looks, but looks also play a huge part in the character's image and portrayal. They'd have to pick someone who's convincing with the look in the role alone, and Bond has to ever look as powerful as he behaves like one, not being a 12 year old "adventurer", which is why today we are on a Bond actor crisis (that is, when Craig decides to leave).

    With the drawing of Bond, though, in VARGR (and Eidolon) he does look as convincing as Fleming's Bond akin to the thematic of the modern times. I've no complaints about that.

    Agreed. And all the complaints that he looks like Archer forget Archer is trying to look like Bond albeit generic.
    It's true that the Bond of the Ellis incarnation shares many traits with Archer. And truly to admit, I couldn't be more glad for that.

    Yes I like Bond's look here
    Apart from the tight suits he wears, I do like Bond in there just fine.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    edited July 2016 Posts: 4,116
    mcdonbb wrote: »
    mcdonbb wrote: »
    I am more than sure this isn't thew final piece of what are we going to get. As for the actors, I do agree acting talent is more required than the looks, but looks also play a huge part in the character's image and portrayal. They'd have to pick someone who's convincing with the look in the role alone, and Bond has to ever look as powerful as he behaves like one, not being a 12 year old "adventurer", which is why today we are on a Bond actor crisis (that is, when Craig decides to leave).

    With the drawing of Bond, though, in VARGR (and Eidolon) he does look as convincing as Fleming's Bond akin to the thematic of the modern times. I've no complaints about that.

    Agreed. And all the complaints that he looks like Archer forget Archer is trying to look like Bond albeit generic.
    It's true that the Bond of the Ellis incarnation shares many traits with Archer. And truly to admit, I couldn't be more glad for that.

    Yes I like Bond's look here
    Apart from the tight suits he wears, I do like Bond in there just fine.

    True..

    Just a question but why did Bond wear a suit to break into the drug ring's warehouse? I'm sure it was decided he would wear the suit because of aesthetic reasons to look like Bond. Bond wore that suit until the briefing at MI6 I believe.

    But if I'm breaking into a warehouse I might want to wear something darker easier to fight in.

    Just saying.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    No time to change, you see? ;)

    We didn't even get to see his hotel in Berlin... Did he even go to a hotel?
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
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    I checked again and it seems he didn't.
    He took his suitcase directly to Berlin Station, and after that i assume he left it there as we never see it again...
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited July 2016 Posts: 15,423
    I'm assuming they reserved him one of the uninhabited offices. :))

    P.S. It appears the next issue won't be coming out until August 3.
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
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    not again ~X(
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    edited July 2016 Posts: 4,116
    I'm assuming they reserved him one of the uninhabited offices. :))

    P.S. It appears the next issue won't be coming out until August 3.

    Lol ...and ugh

    :(
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    I stuck out Vargr just barely. I've yet to read it as a whole work, but didn't think it pulled off monthly installments well. I would've stopped with the end of the arc, but the promise of Spectre and issue number 7 pulled me in and I'm glad I stayed. #7 was easily better than the proceeding issues and I hope the team can keep it up!
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    JET007 wrote: »
    I stuck out Vargr just barely. I've yet to read it as a whole work, but didn't think it pulled off monthly installments well. I would've stopped with the end of the arc, but the promise of Spectre and issue number 7 pulled me in and I'm glad I stayed. #7 was easily better than the proceeding issues and I hope the team can keep it up!

    Good. I liked Vargr but I agree #7 is far better.
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