Skyfall Wins Bond's First Grammy -Make That Two Grammy's

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  • SandySandy Somewhere in Europe
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    Skyfall win at the 18th Critics' Choice Awards

    Best Action Move-Skyfall
    Best actor in action movie-Daniel Craig
    Best Song-Adele

    http://www.thestate.com/2013/01/11/2585315/affleck-argo-win-big-at-critics.html#.UO_NvW-Zk1Z

    It more awards for Skyfall and this was voted by the critics so they love Skyfall and Craig to get these awards!

    That's very good to know, thanks for the heads up @commandbond007. I personally value this kind of awards a lot more than Oscars. Just out of curiosity has anyone ever noticed who makes up for most of the academy and how these people get their place? I have, when Peter Jackson decided to host private screenings at nursing homes around LA at the time of LOTR (with stellar results, I must say) I got curious.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    Skyfall win at the 18th Critics' Choice Awards

    Best Action Move-Skyfall
    Best actor in action movie-Daniel Craig
    Best Song-Adele

    http://www.thestate.com/2013/01/11/2585315/affleck-argo-win-big-at-critics.html#.UO_NvW-Zk1Z

    It more awards for Skyfall and this was voted by the critics so they love Skyfall and Craig to get these awards!

    Wonderful to hear. Thanks. This has to bode well for something at the Oscars.
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    RC7 wrote:
    Germanlady wrote:
    Nope, he meant me - as usual ;). I can live with that. When I post articles from industrie papers, its funny how they are called names, just because they don't underline, what you people so want everybody to believe. Dream away and be happy. Do it but don't expect everybody to go with you on that. And Brady - unless you became a mod, don't tell me, what I am allowed to do. Please...

    Not sure what your point is. The media ran with the 'Skyfall for Oscar' story because to your average red top reading layman, it sounds much more interesting and dynamic than 'Les Mis' or 'Lincoln' for Oscar. The fact Skyfall was critically well received and a financial juggernaut gave a false sense of reality to the situation, which the media naturally capitalised on. The fact they are now saying it was snubbed were because they were the very people who hyped it in the first place. It was never going to be nominated for best picture, so it wasn't snubbed.

    Uhm, I tend to disagree a bit. 'Skyfall' DID have very good chances to be nominated in the 'Best Picture' category. A good predictor usually is the 'Producers Guild Award'. Comparable action blockbuster movies like 'The Dark Knight' (2008) and 'Star Trek' (2009) also got nominated for a Producers Guild Award, just like 'Skyfall'. And take my word, usually this Producers Guild only allow ONE of these action blockbusters on their list of nominations.

    Also, if you read the media a bit more accurately, you would have known that it would be a close call for 'Skyfall' to actually get nominated for a 'Best Picture Oscar'. Sites like Indiewire and Hollywood Reporter were actually saying that movies like 'The Master' and 'Skyfall' might or might not be nominated in this category.

    So to summarize everything: 'Skyfall' is not nominated for a Best Picture Oscar, but I am pretty damn sure it was in the TOP 11 list of Best Picture nominees from the Academy. Moreover, there was a similar discussion about 'The Dark Knight' back in 2009. Also with that film, media said it got 'snubbed' from the Best Picture Oscar list. Wrong: It narrowly missed out that category.
  • RC7RC7
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    If all awards are of equal value why do things like sound, editing etc get presented before the main show in a seemingly empty room whereas best picture and director are last and bring down a standing ovation?

    I think it depends on your definition of value. It's valuable if your DVD/Blu-ray cover has the '5 time Oscar nominated' Skyfall plastered across it. It's potentially more valuable to have Javier Bardem in his 'Oscar nominated performance as Silva' - but we're splitting hairs. In terms of glamour it's all about the Actor/Actress, Director and Picture. They are the memorable categories but as I said I don't think anyone is saying they are of equal value contextually. However an Oscar is an Oscar, if you get one for a short film you're still an Oscar winner. You don't get a lesser statue for mixing foley than you do for spouting a few lines with a grimace.

    I'm sick of this argument 'SF was critically acclaimed and made a ton of money' as if the only thing that you need for best picture is 1billion and 5 stars in Empire. All these industry papers you go on about are not actually in the industry I'm afraid Germanlady. Academy members actually work in the industry rather than just comment on it and they didn't think SF deserved any of the big awards.

    This is pretty much what I was trying to imply. It didn't deserve and was never going to get a nom for best picture.
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    Adele on Twitter just a few moments ago: https://twitter.com/OfficialAdele Adele ‏@OfficialAdele
    Oh my god I feel like Meryl Streep!! Thank you x


    :D

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  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited January 2013 Posts: 4,506
    02) 3 Oscar nominations, 2 Golden Globe nominations, 2 BAFTA nominations: 'THE SPY WHO LOVED ME' (1977):
    ......Oscar - 'Best Production Design': Ken Adam
    ......Oscar - 'Best Original Music Score': Marvin Hamlisch
    ......Oscar - 'Best Original Song': 'Nobody Does It Better' by Marvin Hamlisch & Carole Bayer Sager
    ......Golden Globe - 'Best Original Music Score': Marvin Hamlisch
    ......Golden Globe - 'Best Original Song': 'Nobody Does It Better' by Marvin Hamlisch & Carole
    ......BAFTA - 'Best Original Music Score': Marvin Hamlisch
    ......BAFTA - 'Best Production Design': Ken Adam

    This are nominations that i can understand. The Spy Who loved Me is very good on those points/time forward on those points.
    04) 1 Oscar nominations, 1 Golden Globe nominations: 'FOR YOUR EYES ONLY' (1981):
    ......Oscar - 'Best Original Song': 'For Your Eyes Only' by Sheena Easton, Bill Conti & Michael Leeson
    ......Golden Globe - 'Best Original Song': 'For Your Eyes Only' by Sheena Easton, Bill Conti & Michael Leeson

    Not enough. This movie also should have got credits from some of same catogories as The Spy Who loved Me.
    19) 1 BAFTA nominations: 'YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE' (1967):
    ......BAFTA - 'Best Production Design': Ken Adam

    I mis nomination from Sean Connery for example.
    16) 9 BAFTA nominations: 'CASINO ROYALE' (2006):
    ......BAFTA - 'Best Leading Actor': Daniel Craig
    ......BAFTA - 'Best British Film': Michael G. Wilson & Barbara Broccoli
    ......BAFTA - 'Best Cinematography': Phil Meheux
    ......BAFTA - 'Best Editing': Stuart Baird
    ......BAFTA - 'Best Sound': Chris Munro, Eddy Joseph & Mike Prestwood Smith *WIN*
    ......BAFTA - 'Best Original Music Score': David Arnold
    ......BAFTA - 'Best Visual Effects': Steven Begg, Chris Corbould & John Paul Docherty
    ......BAFTA - 'Best Production Design': Peter Lamont
    ......BAFTA - 'Best Adapted Screenplay': Paul Haggis, Neal Purvis & Robert Wade

    That CR 2006 won a Bafta from Best Sound i don't understand, because i think it is one the worse things of the movie. The nomimation of this for Skyfall i understand better, whyle i think both should not get it any nomination. The editing of Skyfall is inprovement on the editing of Casino Royale. David Arnold is another element that he have done better and with disapointed soud editing/mix a reasen for me why i dislike the movie. Where cinematopgraphy of Skyfall can be inprovement, the cinematography of Casino Royale screams by times, step back from Twine. To much yellow whyere DAD to much blue. Casino Royale is far from British. As said before the movie is more for the none Bondfans and American people. 'Best Production Design': Peter Lamont be the only one i can understand he be nominated for.
    Anyway, let's make a list of Bond films that received major Film Award nominations and that actually won a few. Be amazed about the number of nominations 'Skyfall' got compared to the other Bond films in the past 50 years.

    Bond films with most Oscar/Golden Globe/BAFTA nominations. Oscars have priority over Golden Globes. Golden Globes have priority over BAFTA's in my list:

    01) 5 Oscar nominations, 1 Golden Globe nominations, 8 BAFTA nominations: 'SKYFALL' (2012):
    ......Oscar - 'Best Cinematography': Roger Deakins
    ......Oscar - 'Best Original Music Score': Thomas Newman
    ......Oscar - 'Best Original Song': 'Skyfall' by Adele & Paul Epworth
    ......Oscar - 'Best Sound Mixing': Scott Millan, Greg P. Russell & Stuart Wilson
    ......Oscar - 'Best Sound Editing': Per Hallberg & Karen M. Baker
    ......Golden Globe - 'Best Original Song': 'Skyfall' by Adele & Paul Epworth
    ......BAFTA - 'Best Supporting Actor': Javier Bardem
    ......BAFTA - 'Best Supporting Actress': Judi Dench
    ......BAFTA - 'Best British Film': Michael G. Wilson & Barbara Broccoli
    ......BAFTA - 'Best Cinematography': Roger Deakins
    ......BAFTA - 'Best Editing': Stuart Baird
    ......BAFTA - 'Best Original Music Score': Thomas Newman
    ......BAFTA - 'Best Sound': Scott Millan, Per Hallberg & Stuart Wilson
    ......BAFTA - 'Best Production Design': Dennis Gassner & Anna Pinnock

    I have feeling those Bafta nominations are because of the 50 anniversy. Whyle the sound mix, sound editing, editing and music is done better with Skyfall then with CR2006, the nominations feels a bit strange if i have the feeling other movies should be credit earlier.

    It is to soon on this moment or on a long base Roger Deakins should get Oscar, i only have seen the movie once and for that feeling i say No.

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    Skyfall won 3 of it's 7 nominations at the critics choice, and I think we'll manage 3 OSCARs. I'm not sure about BAFTA's, not really sure which way to estimate with them.
  • I hope when they do the oscar tribute that also give a special oscar to the bond producers for fifty fantastic years.
    I seem to recall walt disney got a special award many years ago.

    I know cubby got the irving g walberg in 1982/83 but do you not think it would be nice for a special award this year !!!
  • Posts: 11,119
    Henderson wrote:
    I hope when they do the oscar tribute that also give a special oscar to the bond producers for fifty fantastic years.
    I seem to recall walt disney got a special award many years ago.

    I know cubby got the irving g walberg in 1982/83 but do you not think it would be nice for a special award this year !!!

    Yeah! That's true. Walt Disney got a 'Special Tribute Oscar', consisting of one big golden Oscar statue and seven smaller golden Oscar statues, referring to the very succesful animated fairytale 'Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs'. It was such a nice and cute gesture :-). Let's hope for something similar for Barbara and Michael: A golden Oscar statue with the Oscar in a Bond pose ;-).

    Honorary%2BOscar%2Bfor%2BSnow%2BWhite%2Band%2Bthe%2BSeven%2BDwarfs.jpg
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    Nominated for American Cinema Editors Best Edited Dramatic Film of 2012 - Skyfall.
  • SandySandy Somewhere in Europe
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    JWESTBROOK wrote:
    Nominated for American Cinema Editors Best Edited Dramatic Film of 2012 - Skyfall.

    Nice, I personally think editing is one of the most important things in a film a film.
  • Posts: 5,745
    Sandy wrote:
    JWESTBROOK wrote:
    Nominated for American Cinema Editors Best Edited Dramatic Film of 2012 - Skyfall.

    Nice, I personally think editing is one of the most important things in a film a film.

    But not a statement ;P Haha, I'm picking. Yes, and I think Skyfall deserves this award vastly improving on QoS.
  • SandySandy Somewhere in Europe
    Posts: 4,012
    JWESTBROOK wrote:
    Sandy wrote:
    JWESTBROOK wrote:
    Nominated for American Cinema Editors Best Edited Dramatic Film of 2012 - Skyfall.

    Nice, I personally think editing is one of the most important things in a film a film.

    But not a statement ;P Haha, I'm picking. Yes, and I think Skyfall deserves this award vastly improving on QoS.

    Actually I was typing on a smartphone when I commented and was kind of blind typing so I think I have the benefit of the :D Anyway, what I was trying to write was that this is an important category and (this was lost somewhere) to be nominated by the peers is very important (same thing for other guild and association awards).
  • Posts: 5,745
    Sandy wrote:
    JWESTBROOK wrote:
    Sandy wrote:
    JWESTBROOK wrote:
    Nominated for American Cinema Editors Best Edited Dramatic Film of 2012 - Skyfall.

    Nice, I personally think editing is one of the most important things in a film a film.

    But not a statement ;P Haha, I'm picking. Yes, and I think Skyfall deserves this award vastly improving on QoS.

    Actually I was typing on a smartphone when I commented and was kind of blind typing so I think I have the benefit of the :D Anyway, what I was trying to write was that this is an important category and (this was lost somewhere) to be nominated by the peers is very important (same thing for other guild and association awards).

    Agreed. What people don't understand is that Bond should never be so serious as to be nominated for Best Picture, because it wouldn't be Bond anymore. You have to have fun, and fun is not going to get you Best Picture. Bond should, however, easily sweep the soundtrack, editing, original song, and maybe special effects every two years or so ;)
  • I think if SF didn't get a best picture nom, no Bond movie in the forseeable future will unless it goes too far away from what makes a Bond film a Bond film.
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    I think if SF didn't get a best picture nom, no Bond movie in the forseeable future will unless it goes too far away from what makes a Bond film a Bond film.

    Precisely. And I don't think any of us want that.
  • edited January 2013 Posts: 12,837
    JWESTBROOK wrote:
    I think if SF didn't get a best picture nom, no Bond movie in the forseeable future will unless it goes too far away from what makes a Bond film a Bond film.

    Precisely. And I don't think any of us want that.

    The day Bond becomes Oscar bait is the day I stop being a Bond fan.

    Unless it was like Wizards idea of faithful book adaptions, that'd be pretty cool. But even then I'd miss all the stuff I expect from a Bond film.
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    I think if SF didn't get a best picture nom, no Bond movie in the forseeable future will unless it goes too far away from what makes a Bond film a Bond film.

    Absolutely! Also, I can't believe the negativity of the media towards the so called "snub" of Skyfall. They are acting like Skyfall was a nailed on certainty for a Best Picture nomination and likewise Javier Bardem/Judi Dench in the acting categories. And they play down the overall achievement of it being nominated in more categories than any other Bond film ever by saying it "only" managed to be nominated in the "minor" technical categories. Typical British pessism - the way this country is going, Bond is one of the few things that makes me proud to be British!

    Long may Bond continue to keep the British end up!


  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    edited January 2013 Posts: 28,694
    Henderson wrote:
    I hope when they do the oscar tribute that also give a special oscar to the bond producers for fifty fantastic years.
    I seem to recall walt disney got a special award many years ago.

    I know cubby got the irving g walberg in 1982/83 but do you not think it would be nice for a special award this year !!!

    Yeah! That's true. Walt Disney got a 'Special Tribute Oscar', consisting of one big golden Oscar statue and seven smaller golden Oscar statues, referring to the very succesful animated fairytale 'Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs'. It was such a nice and cute gesture :-). Let's hope for something similar for Barbara and Michael: A golden Oscar statue with the Oscar in a Bond pose ;-).

    Honorary%2BOscar%2Bfor%2BSnow%2BWhite%2Band%2Bthe%2BSeven%2BDwarfs.jpg
    OR a big gold man and 49 smaller gold men! Or we could do one gold man and then 22 smaller gold men so it is easier to carry, haha!
    :P
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    :)

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  • DoctorKaufmannDoctorKaufmann Can shoot you from Stuttgart and still make it look like suicide.
    edited January 2013 Posts: 1,261
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    This was DC's reaction... ;) And he replaced the beard with something more fashionable...

    And I might be wrong, but the Oscars for sound editing and sound effects will take place on the night as such, we should not mix up the Awards for scientific and technical achievments with the awrards for sound, sound editing, Editing and the likes... http://www.oscars.org/awards/scitech/index.html
  • Artemis81Artemis81 In Christmas Land
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    Congrats for Skyfall with those Critics Choice Awards wins. It was nice to see Famke Janssen presenting the awards for Best Action Actor and Action film, although I wish DC was there to receive his award. Anyways, I thought it was ridiculous that when the fans had to vote for the Best Film Franchise that not only include Bond, but Batman, Harry Potter, Star Wars, LOTR just to name a few, they chose the Twilight Saga!!! Seriously! :-L
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    Artemis81 wrote:
    Congrats for Skyfall with those Critics Choice Awards wins. It was nice to see Famke Janssen presenting the awards for Best Action Actor and Action film, although I wish DC was there to receive his award. Anyways, I thought it was ridiculous that when the fans had to vote for the Best Film Franchise that not only include Bond, but Batman, Harry Potter, Star Wars, LOTR just to name a few, they chose the Twilight Saga!!! Seriously! :-L

    Maybe those tween fans mobbed together and voted a hundred times each or something. Because that makes NO sense whatsoever.
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    so January 13. 2013 is the Golden Globe awards.........should be interesting if Skyfall sang by Adele will win best song. I think it will and BAFTA and OScar as well or maybe not

    Is there anywhere I can watch highlights of critic choice award, and on a side note Twilight breaking dawn part 2 has been nominated for worst picture, actor, etc for the Golden Raspberry Award (no surprise)
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    Posts: 28,694
    Artemis81 wrote:
    Congrats for Skyfall with those Critics Choice Awards wins. It was nice to see Famke Janssen presenting the awards for Best Action Actor and Action film, although I wish DC was there to receive his award. Anyways, I thought it was ridiculous that when the fans had to vote for the Best Film Franchise that not only include Bond, but Batman, Harry Potter, Star Wars, LOTR just to name a few, they chose the Twilight Saga!!! Seriously! :-L

    Hence why I wish for the death of most of my generation. Good god, people have no idea what good filmmaking is anymore. These are also the kids who spend hours on Facebook and wouldn't know Orson Welles from Jimmy Stewart. ~X(

    A shout outs go to @Creasy47 and @JWESTBROOK, people near my age who actually have good taste in film. There is hope out there...
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    so January 13. 2013 is the Golden Globe awards.........should be interesting if Skyfall sang by Adele will win best song. I think it will and BAFTA and OScar as well or maybe not

    Is there anywhere I can watch highlights of critic choice award, and on a side note Twilight breaking dawn part 2 has been nominated for worst picture, actor, etc for the Golden Raspberry Award (no surprise)


    Its on You Tube.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    Posts: 9,117
    Artemis81 wrote:
    Hence why I wish for the death of most of my generation. Good god, people have no idea what good filmmaking is anymore. These are also the kids who spend hours on Facebook and wouldn't know Orson Welles from Jimmy Stewart..

    Brilliant stuff Brady.

    I'm in total agreement - I too wish for the death of most of your generation.
  • When something has been around as long as the Bond franchise, it's hard for most people to see it with fresh eyes. I can't see a Bond film being nominated for Best Picture no matter how good it is because of the way people are used to looking at Bond films (mind you, I'm talking about Oscars).

    I think the same applies to Judi Dench. For those who were hoping she'd get a Supporting Actress nomination she's had 6 previous films in the role. People are so used to her in the role (or roles, as the Craig era M is a different character than the Brosnan era M) that no matter how good she was in SF the reaction is, yeah, but that's what she *always* does. I don't agree with it, but that's how a lot of the general public would feel.
  • SandySandy Somewhere in Europe
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    When something has been around as long as the Bond franchise, it's hard for most people to see it with fresh eyes. I can't see a Bond film being nominated for Best Picture no matter how good it is because of the way people are used to looking at Bond films (mind you, I'm talking about Oscars).

    I think the same applies to Judi Dench. For those who were hoping she'd get a Supporting Actress nomination she's had 6 previous films in the role. People are so used to her in the role (or roles, as the Craig era M is a different character than the Brosnan era M) that no matter how good she was in SF the reaction is, yeah, but that's what she *always* does. I don't agree with it, but that's how a lot of the general public would feel.

    That's exactly how I see this question, it's not a matter of quality, it's a matter of prejudice.
  • I'm in total agreement - I too wish for the death of most of your generation.

    I think most of us do.
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