Dr. No versus the field: Skyfall

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  • GBFGBF
    Posts: 3,195
    Title Track: DN
    Title Credits: DN
    Main Villain: DN
    Main Bond Girl: DN
    Henchman: DN
    Overall Plot: DN
    Dialogue: DN
    Score: DAD
    Settings: DN
    Action: DAD
    Humour: DN
    Cinematography: DN
    Benign Bizarre: DN
    Suspense: DN
    Minor Characters:DN
    Glamour: DN
    Bond Performance: DN

    DN: 15
    DAD: 2
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
    Posts: 1,318
    Title Track: DN
    Title Credits: DN
    Main Villain: DN
    Main Bond Girl: DN
    Henchman: DN
    Overall Plot: DN
    Dialogue: DN
    Score: DN
    Settings: DN
    Action: DN
    Humour: DN
    Cinematography: DN
    Benign Bizarre: DN
    Suspense: DN
    Minor Characters:DN
    Glamour: DN
    Bond Performance: DN

    Flawless victory
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    Posts: 7,969



    Dr No Wins
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    Title Track: DN
    Title Credits: DAD
    Main Villain: DN
    Main Bond Girl: DN
    Henchman: DN
    Overall Plot: DN
    Dialogue: DN
    Score: DN
    Settings: DN
    Action: DN
    Humour: DN
    Cinematography: DN
    Benign Bizarre: DN
    Suspense: DN
    Minor Characters:DN
    Glamour: DN
    Bond Performance: DN

    16-1
  • DoctorNoDoctorNo USA-Maryland
    Posts: 754
    Title Track: DN
    Title Credits: DN
    Main Villain: DN
    Main Bond Girl: DN
    Henchman: DN
    Overall Plot: DN
    Dialogue: DN
    Score: DN
    Settings: DN
    Action: DN
    Humour: DN
    Cinematography: DN
    Benign Bizarre: DN
    Suspense: DN
    Minor Characters:DN
    Glamour: DN
    Bond Performance: DN

    KO
  • Posts: 4,023
    Title Track: DN
    Title Credits: DAD
    Main Villain: DN
    Main Bond Girl: DN
    Henchman: DN
    Overall Plot: DN
    Dialogue: DN
    Score: DAD
    Settings: DN
    Action: DN
    Humour: DN
    Cinematography: DN
    Benign Bizarre: DN
    Suspense: DN
    Minor Characters:DN
    Glamour: DN
    Bond Performance: DN

    DN: 15
    DAD: 2
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    Posts: 4,418
    Title Track: DN
    Title Credits: DAD (that’s one!)
    Main Villain: DN
    Main Bond Girl: DN
    Henchman: DN
    Overall Plot: DN
    Dialogue: DN
    Score: DAD (that’s two!)
    Settings: DN
    Action: DN (would have given it to DAD, but, you know, CGI tsunami and what-have-you)
    Humour: DN (“Sergeant, make sure he doesn’t get away” beats all comers, especially DAD’s not very good boner gags)
    Cinematography: DN (Although I’m rather fond of the technique of the desaturated scenes in N. Korea, and the subsequent over saturated scenes as the film goes on)
    Benign Bizarre: DN
    Suspense: DN
    Minor Characters: DN
    Glamour: DN
    Bond Performance: DN

    DN: 15
    DAD: 2 Yay for DAD!
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    Posts: 6,760
    Title Track: DN
    Title Credits: DN
    Main Villain: DN
    Main Bond Girl: DN
    Henchman: DN
    Overall Plot: DN
    Dialogue: DN
    Score: DAD
    Settings: DN
    Action: DAD
    Humour: DN
    Cinematography: DN
    Benign Bizarre: DN
    Suspense: DN
    Minor Characters:DN
    Glamour: DN
    Bond Performance: DN

    DN: 15
    DAD: 2
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    Posts: 13,879
    Title Track: DN
    Title Credits: DAD
    Main Villain: DN
    Main Bond Girl: DN (don't have a problem with Jinx per se, but her hairstyle here is unflattering)
    Henchman: DN (Zao's decent, but Dent has a sinister vibe about him without having physicality/traits)
    Overall Plot: DN (perhaps a simple espionage thriller like this is what we need for B25)
    Dialogue: DN (e.g. "Both hands on the wheel, Mr. Jones. I'm a very nervous passenger.")
    Score: DAD (nice score- Cuba and ice car chase are stand outs; points for including The Clash)
    Settings: DN (love Jamaica- it was used well here, and the sets were top notch too)
    Action: DAD
    Humour: DAD (yes, it's corny, but also highly amusing)
    Cinematography: DAD
    Benign Bizarre: DN
    Suspense: DN
    Minor Characters: DN (Raoul, Frost and Robinson are decent though)
    Glamour: DN (Le Cercle; No's dining room)
    Bond Performance: DN (no issues with Pierce in DAD, but Sean must get the credit here)

    DN: 12
    DAD: 5
  • BondAficionadoBondAficionado Former IMDBer
    Posts: 1,884
    Title Track: DAD
    Title Credits: DN
    Main Villain: DN
    Main Bond Girl: DN
    Henchman: DN
    Overall Plot: DN
    Dialogue: DN
    Score: DAD
    Settings: DN
    Action: DN
    Humour: DN
    Cinematography: DN
    Benign Bizarre: DAD
    Suspense: DN
    Minor Characters:DN
    Glamour: DN
    Bond Performance: DN

    DN: 14
    DAD: 3

    A big win for DN. Likely its last.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    Posts: 13,879
    A big win for DN. Likely its last.
    I suspect DN will beat the pants off SP, and to a lesser degree, QOS.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    edited September 2018 Posts: 6,760
    DN will destroy every Craig entry in my book. Except CR, which will lose by a slightly smaller margin.
  • MooseWithFleasMooseWithFleas Philadelphia
    Posts: 3,333
    Title Track: DAD
    Title Credits: DN
    Main Villain: DN
    Main Bond Girl: DN
    Henchman: DAD
    Overall Plot: DN
    Dialogue: DN
    Score: DAD
    Settings: DN
    Action: DAD
    Humour: DAD
    Cinematography: DN
    Benign Bizarre: DAD
    Suspense: DN
    Minor Characters: DN
    Glamour: DN
    Bond Performance: DN

    DN: 11
    DAD: 6
  • Posts: 19,339
    Title Track: DN
    Title Credits: DAD
    Main Villain: DN
    Main Bond Girl: DN
    Henchman: DN
    Overall Plot: DN
    Dialogue: DN
    Score: DAD
    Settings: DAD
    Action: DAD
    Humour: DN
    Cinematography: DN
    Benign Bizarre: DAD
    Suspense: DN
    Minor Characters: DN
    Glamour: DAD
    Bond Performance: DN

    DN: 11
    DAD: 6
  • Title Track: DN
    Title Credits: DN - really surprised by how many gave this one to DAD - it's my least favorite along with SP - I don't care to see scorpions and other slithering creatures in my credits - I like the more exotic and romantic old-school approach
    Main Villain: DN
    Main Bond Girl: DN
    Henchman: DAD - I do like both Miranda and Zao quite a bit
    Overall Plot: DN
    Dialogue: DN
    Score: DAD
    Settings: DN
    Action: DAD
    Humour: DN
    Cinematography: DN
    Benign Bizarre: DN
    Suspense: DN
    Minor Characters: DN
    Glamour: DN
    Bond Performance: DN

    DN: 14
    DAD: 3
  • Major_BoothroydMajor_Boothroyd Republic of Isthmus
    Posts: 2,721
    Title Track: DN (Madonna vs Bond theme...no contest.)

    Title Credits: DAD (I like the story they tell and remember being in cinema thinking it was a unique title sequence)

    Main Villain: DN (Julius beats Gustav by some distance.)

    Main Bond Girl: DN (Honey is far more likeable and memorable. Jinx has some of the worst dialogue in the film...and that's saying something.)

    Henchman: DAD (old diamond face is quite memorable. On another day I prefer Dent, but I'm feeling generous and will give this to Zao.)

    Overall Plot: DN (Fleming thanks)

    Dialogue: DN (One of the worst aspects of DAD is the dialogue and how it is delivered.)

    Score: DN (I may have to relisten to DAD to give this a truly fair ranking, but I'm not a fan of the techno elements in the score. I've always had a soft spot for Monty Norman's score. From 'Twisting with James' to 'Jump Up' it always makes me smile, and takes me to that place. I even like the old style music of the finale and when Bond hammers the tarantula.)

    Settings: DN (Ah...Fleming's Jamaica is near unbeatable.)

    Action: DAD (Sword fight and car chase on ice are fun.)

    Humour: DN (I like the deadly humour of DN.)

    Cinematography: DN (love how 1962 Jamaica is captured.)

    Benign Bizarre: DN (Both have bizarre elements but I prefer the metal hands, dragons, blind mice assassins, the atmosphere when Dent collects the spider.)

    Suspense: DN (Not a lot of suspense in DAD)

    Minor Characters: DN (Quarrel, Felix, Sylvia Trench and Miss Taro.)

    Glamour: DN (Easily)

    Bond Performance: DN (Top notch Connery versus one of Brosnan's dodgier performance.)

    Dr. No - 14
    Die Another Day - 3

    Let's be fair - DAD could have got swept on this (bar the action.) but I was feeling charitable. DN is top level Bond. DAD about as low as it gets.

  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 8,255
    Title Track: DN

    Title Credits: DAD

    Main Villain: DN

    Main Bond Girl: DN

    Henchman: DN (I actually liked Zao, but it's not surprising he's a tower of strength with a nasty streak to him, and that's why I give this one to Dent: BECAUSE he's so atypical as a Bond henchman. He's weak and cowardly. His wiry nervousness made him a danger since he may just try and sneak up on you while you're sleeping and put six bullets into you).

    Overall Plot: DN

    Dialogue: DN

    Score: DAD

    Settings: DN

    Action: DN (this mainly because, apart from the PTS, I despised the action in DAD, including Blades (with the grunting and snarling like two public school boys having a tif (but did like Arnold's escalating score))... I'd rather stripped back DN's action on any night of the week (at least the action in DN created and built suspense; it wasn't flashy, but it had a purpose of moving the story forward)

    Humour: DN

    Cinematography: DN

    Benign Bizarre: DN (because DAD wasn't so much as bizarre as it was stupid)

    Suspense: DN

    Minor Characters: DN

    Glamour: DN

    Bond Performance: DN (not even close)

    Dr. No - 15
    Die Another Day - 2


  • Title Track: DN
    Title Credits: DAD
    Main Villain: DN
    Main Bond Girl: DN (lol)
    Henchman: DAD
    Overall Plot: DN
    Dialogue: DN
    Score: DN
    Settings: DAD
    Action: DAD
    Humour: DN
    Cinematography: DN (close)
    Benign Bizarre: DN
    Suspense: DN
    Minor Characters: DN
    Glamour: DN
    Bond Performance: DN

    Dr. No - 13
    Die Another Day - 4
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    DAD is bizarre, but not in a benign way.
  • Any final entries, before we head into the wild and crazy tenure of one Daniel Craig?
  • Folks, we have our first ever clean sweep. Dr. No absolutely overwhelms Die Another Day, winning all fifteen games and taking home a final score of 241-48. DAD's best showing was six wins, which it managed a whopping twice. We can now move on to the home stretch, as we enter the new continuity and Dr. No takes on another start to the franchise in Casino Royale!

    My score first...

    Title Track: CR
    Title Credits: CR
    Main Villain: DN
    Main Bond Girl: CR (only Tracy herself can beat Vesper)
    Henchman: DN (I guess it's Demetrios, right?)
    Overall Plot: CR
    Dialogue: CR
    Score: CR
    Settings: CR
    Action: CR (bits of it are hacky, but the parkour chase alone seals it)
    Humour: CR
    Cinematography: CR
    Benign Bizarre: CR (he gets hit in the nuts with a knotted rope)
    Suspense: CR
    Minor Characters: DN (had to give this one to Qaurrel)
    Glamour: DN (had to give this one to our introduction to Bond)
    Bond Performance: CR

    Overall, CR earns a dominant 13-4 victory. DN can take comfort in knowing that many of the categories were close, but it just can't pull off the win.

    Before turning the game over to you, I'd like to acknowledge that I've been slow in going from round to round, which may damage interest in the game. I do greatly enjoy reading all your scores, though, and the discussion the game generates. Let's finish strong!
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489

    Title Track: CR
    Title Credits: CR
    Main Villain: DN
    Main Bond Girl: CR
    Henchman: CR
    Overall Plot: CR
    Dialogue: CR
    Score: CR
    Settings: CR
    Action: CR
    Humour: CR
    Cinematography: CR
    Benign Bizarre: CR
    Suspense: CR
    Minor Characters: DN
    Glamour: CR
    Bond Performance: CR

    CR wins 15-2
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    Posts: 6,760
    Title Track: DN
    Title Credits: CR
    Main Villain: DN
    Main Bond Girl: CR
    Henchman: DN
    Overall Plot: CR
    Dialogue: DN
    Score: CR
    Settings: CR
    Action: CR
    Humour: DN
    Cinematography: DN
    Benign Bizarre: DN
    Suspense: CR
    Minor Characters: DN
    Glamour: CR
    Bond Performance: DN

    DN 9
    CR 8

    Close call, but classic Bond triumphs.
  • GBFGBF
    Posts: 3,195
    Title Track: DN
    Title Credits: CR
    Main Villain: DN
    Main Bond Girl: CR
    Henchman: DN
    Overall Plot: CR
    Dialogue: DN
    Score: CR
    Settings: DN
    Action: CR
    Humour: DN
    Cinematography: DN
    Benign Bizarre: DN
    Suspense: CR
    Minor Characters: DN
    Glamour: CR
    Bond Performance: DN

    DN 10
    CR 7
  • GBFGBF
    Posts: 3,195
    There is hardly any better Bond performance than Sean in DN.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    Posts: 4,418
    Title Track: CR
    Title Credits: CR
    Main Villain: DN
    Main Bond Girl: CR
    Henchman: DN
    Overall Plot: CR
    Dialogue: CR
    Score: CR
    Settings: DN
    Action: CR
    Humour: CR
    Cinematography: CR
    Benign Bizarre: DN
    Suspense: CR
    Minor Characters: CR
    Glamour: CR
    Bond Performance: CR

    DN - 4
    CR - 13

    CR is at #3 and DN is at #4 in my rankings. Very close indeed.
  • BondAficionadoBondAficionado Former IMDBer
    Posts: 1,884
    Title Track: CR
    Title Credits: CR
    Main Villain: CR
    Main Bond Girl: CR (The best of the best.)
    Henchman: CR
    Overall Plot: CR
    Dialogue: CR
    Score: CR
    Settings: CR
    Action: CR
    Humour: CR
    Cinematography: CR
    Benign Bizarre: DN
    Suspense: CR
    Minor Characters: CR
    Glamour: CR
    Bond Performance: CR

    CR: 16
    DN: 1

    I'm not at all surprised tbh.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 5,921
    Title Track: DN
    Title Credits: CR
    Main Villain: DN
    Main Bond Girl: CR
    Henchman: DN
    Overall Plot: CR
    Dialogue: CR
    Score: CR
    Settings: CR
    Action: CR
    Humour: CR
    Cinematography: CR
    Benign Bizarre: DN
    Suspense: CR
    Minor Characters: CR
    Glamour: CR
    Bond Performance: CR

    CR: 13
    DN: 4
  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 8,255
    Title Track: CR
    Title Credits: CR
    Main Villain: CR
    Main Bond Girl: CR
    Henchman: CR
    Overall Plot: CR
    Dialogue: CR
    Score: CR
    Settings: CR
    Action: CR
    Humour: CR
    Cinematography: CR
    Benign Bizarre: CR
    Suspense: CR
    Minor Characters: CR
    Glamour: CR
    Bond Performance: CR (the source material that updated the torture sequence was a tour de force from DC)

    First time I've shut out a film, and shows absolutely nothing in how much I love and adore DN. Both of these films are ranked in my top five!
  • edited October 2018 Posts: 3,336
    Title Track: CR
    Title Credits: CR
    Main Villain: CR
    Main Bond Girl: CR
    Henchman: DN
    Overall Plot: CR
    Dialogue: CR
    Score: CR
    Settings: CR
    Action: CR
    Humour: CR
    Cinematography: CR
    Benign Bizarre: CR
    Suspense: CR
    Minor Characters: CR
    Glamour: CR
    Bond Performance: DN

    15-2 to CR
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