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I think you are right about that.
Much like Layer Cake did for Craig.
No Craig Screamed Bond in Lara Croft, Haha. :D
He can clean up as good as the next chap and I think he looks just fine in that photo above, as well as in the associated film. That doesn't mean I advocate for him being cast, although I'm not entirely against it either.
No it's because he wears a tux and he plays an English stereotype. Not badly, but he was not outstanding.
A perfect summation.
I think Turner deserves a screentest, and not just because he wears a tux and has played an “English stereotype”.
Some have difficulty appreciating artistic subjectivity.
Yeah, an Irish mercenary called Lombard.
Really? How about you? You seem to forget it outside of Turner.
Turner has limited movie presence at best. It's unlikely the studio will trust an actor with one of the biggest roles in cinema without proving they can do it already.
Prior to Casino Royale, what movie did Craig carry on his own?
Presumptively speaking only for U.S. film goers, I would say the overwhelming majority did not know Daniel Craig by name. If shown a picture they may have said. ' I've seen him in something, but I don't know who he is'. With the possible exception of the UK. don't think it would have been any different world wide
The casting isn't happening yet, so any likely candidate (be it Turner, Norton, someone not mentioned here, you name it) still has time to do a lesser budget action film or series or something.
As a slight side note: A lot of interesting stuff is being produced by Netflix, Amazon etc., so maybe a future candidate will make his name known through a streaming service rather than a straight-to-DVD/selected cinemas title.
Very true.
If you read my posts before, CR being an origin story called for a relative in known.
But Craig had been the lead before CR.
I agree that in choosing the next Bond the current state of the industry will probably dictate that someone with a higher profile.
I said he'd had experience playing a lead before Bond.
I think they'll look for fit and acting ability first and foremost. The box office will come if they deliver a decent film. Every Bond actor to date (except perhaps Dalton and Lazzer) has had a massive smash to their name, so EON don't have any concerns on that front. Bond is the brand. They just need an actor that fits their proposed direction, and then they go from there.
I agree with @bondjames that if they deliver a decent film then the box office will come.
You're building a strawman. I'm not dismissing him for it. Heck when I saw ATTWN I thought he could be a potential James Bond. But let's keep a bit of perspective here: the role of Philip Lombard shows that he can look the part (although he was a bit youthful then) not that he can play it.
But yes at least it's not a Cologne advert: Turner actually played a character with a psychology, tastes, motivations and even a few good lines.
So we established he has a strength outside of acting, but what about in the role itself? Well for starters, he is ofcourse the right height, age, right hair colour, not too famous, excetera, excetera. But can we see any insight as to how he would approach the role, and take on becoming James Bond himself? Well, In my opinion Turner has a darkness to him, in his aura. Watch Poldark, watch And Then There Were None, and it's something he plays with over and over. He has the "dark hero" or "anti-heroic" role pretty much nailed down at this point. I was surprised with my recent viewing of Desolation of Smaug to find that he played it differently, more honest and pure. Aidan Turner characters, most of the time, feel like they have a dark past filled with bad experiences and it is often proven the case. Does this remind us of anyone? James Bond. So Turner is has a darkness, but he is also going to be much more capable of playing the comic, the cheery and the smooth. Basically the areas that Craig struggled with in SP. And the best part is that it has very little to do with his ability to act this way. You only have to look at his to see there is an edge, you only have to watch an interview to see the gregarious side, which is desperately needed for Bond. He simply has the personality traits, as well as the looks, features, body excetera which would make him the ideal candidate. What I see from the other guys, is that many are too famous (Tom Hardy), or slightly older (Fassbinder), or they don't have an aura (Henry Cavill IMO), or they are short (Jack Oconnoll), or they are too stereotypically English (Hiddleston). Aidan Turner is none of these, the worst complaints I see of him is that he is too baby-faced (he has 4 years to age still), too thin (I'd argue Bond should cut a slim figure, it's how I always imagined him in the books, but even then Aidan can gain a few pounds I'm sure, if it's essential) or not good enough of an actor or not a proven leading man quality (again, he has time, and having watched him closely through four seasons of Poldark, I can see him relaxing into it more and feeling more natural. Many saying this seem to be basing it on only a few clips they watch years ago and made up their mind). Craig did not have much leading man quality and what he did get HE GOT IN THE FOUR YEARS PRIOR to becoming Bond if I am correct? Most of the roles people associate with him winning the Bond job were in the 2002 - 2006 period. Bare in mind that the earliest we will get a new Bond is 2022, so Turner is on track and improving.
I only hope that once Craig quits, we can stop labelling Turner as the boogeyman around here who is going to take the Job from Craig. Let's face if it's not him, someone else will do it. Craig can not be bond forever, I was heartbroken when Brosnan left, but there's nothing that can be done about it. So let's try and be a bit more fair and open-minded in future. Thank you.
Never could see this myself.
They both play it straight, I agree, but where Dalton's Bond was fidgety, always on edge, and every thought and mood could be read on his face, Craig's Bond is more insular, holding his feelings back, quietly wrestling with his own demons.
They don't play it the same at all, as far as I can see.
I agree, Dalton was always tense, whereas Craig has some of the Connery/Moore DNA of a guy trying to enjoy his life, food, drinks and women, while at the same time wrestling with some inner demons and the messy nature of his job. Craig has many moments throughout his movies, where you see him smiling and relaxed, i can't think of one in the Dalton films.
After he shoots her dead.
My top 3 candidates for screen-testing atm would be :
1.Cavill
2.Hiddleston
3.Hardy
Honourable mention to Fassbender and Hemsworth.