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Oh but nothing is his!
I always find ironic that so many Christians are such staunt capitalists, sometimes even oligarchs, when Jesus's sole economic policy could only be considered by today's standards as radical socialism.
I guess Jesus's message of living modestly got lost in greed
Given that early Christians thought they were living in the end of days, money was a secondary (at best!) consideration for them. Didn't work as expected.
Seems so many of the religious content to have their nice house, car and holidays without a thought to facing St Peter on judgement day:
St P: 'You think you're coming in here do you?'
Believer: 'Yes I've led a good and virtuous life and went to church every week.'
St P: 'I can't help noticing in 2004 you went on an all inclusive cruise round the Caribbean and then in 2017 you bought a 55 inch 4K telly. And Tesco Value never good enough for you was it? Always had to be Tesco Finest. Don't you think that money might have been better spent building wells in Africa?'
Believer: 'Err well yeah. But I gave £10 a month to charity.'
St P: 'Well whoopy shit.'
If I was a believer I'd be so petrified that my soul was going to burn in hell that I wouldn't be sitting in my nice warm living room typing away on an expensive phone or laptop on a Bond forum I'd be out there doing God's work. You do realise he's watching you all the time don't you and makes a note every time you sprint past the starving and homeless because you want to get back for Rosemary & Thyme on ITV4?
More utterly illogical behaviour (not being scared in the slightest of going to hell I mean not watching Rosemary & Thyme, although why anyone would choose to do that also beggars belief.)
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2018/mar/09/yesodey-hatorah-jewish-girls-school-north-london-homosexual-references-textbook
There's an understatement.
That's why religion should keep away from school: it's against education. That's bad enough that there are faith schools, but let's get rid of the C of E and assembly prayers in state schools.
You started this thread. You are not happy how it turned out does not make it a joke. Unless the subject matter is a joke which I'd actually tend to agree.
Still, it has been an online profile of a certain type of atheist and I'm sure it has been informative in that regard. The use of hyperbole has been excessive (baby cancer etc.) but weak arguments often depend on such use of overtly dramatic language.
... with a lot of free time on their hands to complain about a subject matter that they think is rubbish.
But, hey, none of that matters because they're going to change everyone's mind ... starting right here on a James Bond message board!
'Ofsted has promised to take a tougher line on faith schools'
I believe that will happen about as much as I believe in talking snakes.
Indeed. If you refuse to enter into any sort of debate you can't really complain when it just descends into ridicule of religion because without any counter argumentents coming from the religious side it's far too easy for the rest of us keep posting links to how ludicrous religion is.
The only thing that's beyond parody is that people genuinely believe (and you are one of them) that this garbage is worthy of respect.
'Elsewhere, a number of images of women were censored to hide their chests, shoulders and arms, and legs above the knee.'
That doesn't leave a lot does it? Head and feet only? Remind me not to google any Jewish porn.
If you mean do I think religion is bollocks and people who believe in it delusional fools then guilty. But until you come back with any arguments rather than just bleating that we're not all just saying 'Hallelujah and 'Allah Akbhar' in this thread then you don't do yourself any favours.
But complaining about the complainers obviously not a waste of time at all.
Perhaos this thread will get a second wind at a later date in the future where some members of faith will engage in debate with athiests but for now at least it is destined to be the official Athiest's Corner of MI6 Community. I'm sure the Athiests here will continue to enjoy debating something they hate to infinity and beyond but it's not for me. Too much time on their hands, undoubtedly, but no more of my time will be expended on this thread.
hyperbole
hʌɪˈpəːbəli/
noun
noun: hyperbole; plural noun: hyperboles
exaggerated statements or claims not meant to be taken literally.
I was referring to the fact it was specifically blamed on God, not the disease itself, as you well know of course. But again we are reduced to petty pointscoring. We all have egos that need feeding I suppose.
I'm curious if you could at least inform us of where the disease originates from then if you feel blaming it on the bloke who created the entire universe and everything in it as unjust?
'Beyond parody' your words not mine and you're skating dangerously close to it right now.
With power comes responsibility. Worshippers seem happy to think that God is..God and all that it brings. But when someone tries to make him accountable for the results of that power, they can't accept the concept.
This situation exists outside of this forum. To somehow try to blame forum members for this situation seems ....well, I don't know really.
PS if God is not part of the process, why do people pray to God in times of sickness, emergency etc ?
PPS Perhaps God created:
Raindrops on roses
And whiskers on kittens
Bright copper kettles and warm woolen mittens
Brown paper packages tied up with strings
You've been saying that a lot lately and always came back. Not that I complain about you coming back mind you, you started this thread after all and it's a free and open forum. But it's extremely poor argument to whine about this place being one sided and bringing nothing to defend your point, instead complaining that it would be pointless to do so then saying again that you're leaving it... If you had no argument to begin with you wouldn't do anything different.
We talked about the relevance of this thread on a Bond forum before. It has also a football thread which I don't follow because football bores me.
As for wasting our time, I don't think it's a waste of time to educate and encourage scepticism and critical thinking. If I wanted to waste my time I'd pray.
Of course, we own our own time and its ours to spend it on what we like.
Perhaps I should incorporate that into the thread title somehow.
When creationists talk about God creating every individual species as a separate act, they always instance hummingbirds, or orchids, sunflowers and beautiful things. But I tend to think instead of a parasitic worm that is boring through the eye of a boy sitting on the bank of a river in West Africa, [a worm] that’s going to make him blind.
And [I ask them], ‘Are you telling me that the God you believe in, who you also say is an all-merciful God, who cares for each one of us individually, are you saying that God created this worm that can live in no other way than in an innocent child’s eyeball? Because that doesn’t seem to me to coincide with a God who’s full of mercy.
Feel free to address any of the questions we have raised over the previous 60 pages with any arguments or evidence of your own any time you feel like it chaps but at least spare us the poor man's Hale & Pace routine.
Yes, and Stephen Fry uses similar arguments. I watched that video with Attenborough recently myself on You Tube. He said the more logical explanation is that that parasitic worm evolved in the river. It's good to know that the Big Bang theory absolves all personal blame for the creation of such worms. It wasn't much more humane than God as far as I can see, but it's much harder to blame a massive explosion than it is to blame God.
I hate to say this but you're getting ridiculous. Nobody said evolution or nature was moral. Nobody said that either had any beneficial intentions whatsoever. Science is intself amoral. If a shark eats a human being I will not accuse the shark of immoral behavior or being unethical. But I'd hold a supreme being to higher standards!
And typical Xian confusion: you're equating the Big Bang Theory with the theory of Evolution. They have nothing to do with each other!
I'm sure you've called me worse than ridiculous before now. It's water off a duck's back to me by this stage.
There was and still are many occasions when science has been immoral as well, but you conveniently chose to omit that. No matter.
And as you don't believe in God, why us there the need to hold him to any standard. As an atheist, he doesn't exist to you, so it's all rather pointless if I may say so.
On my "typical Xian confusion": is that because neither exist or have ever existed?