Bond film ranking tournament. LALD vs GE and OHMSS vs DAD

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  • Posts: 3,173
    LALD and SF

    I really like TMWTGG though, and the other one is no contest.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Bored into my skull.
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    LALD and SF

    I really like TMWTGG though, and the other one is no contest.

    Same here.
  • RemingtonRemington I'll do anything for a woman with a knife.
    Posts: 1,364
    LALD>TMWTGG
    DAD>SF.
    Both right next to each other in my ranking. I'm just more entertained by DAD and it's score is light years ahead of SF. I really like SF though.
  • BirdlesonBirdleson San Jose, CAModerator
    Posts: 26,164
    LALD and SF

    I really like TMWTGG though, and the other one is no contest.

    Same here.

    Me too.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 3,303
    LALD and SF. Not even close.
  • PrinceKamalKhanPrinceKamalKhan Monsoon Palace, Udaipur
    Posts: 2,418
    TMWTGG

    DAD
  • Posts: 2,794
    LALD v TMWTGG: I've placed LALD above its sequel, but there's certainly a lot of things in the second Moore that I feel were done better than its predecessor. I also liked the M & Bond scene on the sunken Queen Elizabeth in Hong Kong's Victoria Harbour over their shared screen-time in LALD. Moore also feels more like Bond in TMWTGG than he does in LALD.
    SF v DAD: I'm not a great fan of either, but SF is vastly superior to absolutely anything in DAD, so by natural default wins the contest.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Bored into my skull.
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    The one thing DAD may have over SF is the main title sequence . In the worst film of all, that is still one of the best. I still love the one for SF as well.
  • Posts: 3,823
    I don't know if all those who prefer DAD to SF are actually being serious, or if it's more a matter of making a statement of some sort...
  • Posts: 8,551
    jobo wrote: »
    I don't know if all those who prefer DAD to SF are actually being serious, or if it's more a matter of making a statement of some sort...

    Could be. There is a lot of disdain for Mendes, and the Craig era lately.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    FoxRox wrote: »
    jobo wrote: »
    I don't know if all those who prefer DAD to SF are actually being serious, or if it's more a matter of making a statement of some sort...

    Could be. There is a lot of disdain for Mendes, and the Craig era lately.
    Not necessarily. Some just prefer a more formulaic and light hearted fun entry, no matter how flawed it may be. Nothing wrong with that.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns The Phantom Planet
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    I don't like SF and I never have and like everyone else I am entitled to my opinion.
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    I don't like SF and I never have and like everyone else I am entitled to my opinion.

    Oh sorry. I forgot to add IMHO at the end, to make sure I didn't hurt anyone's feelings...
  • mattjoesmattjoes Quantum of Moustache
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    LALD beats TMTWGG. I think I may enjoy watching the latter a tad more, but LALD is a better constructed film. It really came together for me as an experience the last time I watched it. Funny and sinister, not unlike DAF.

    DAD beats SF. Mistakes and all, it sticks to the formula, and I prefer it for that. Also, Brosnan in DAD beats Craig in SF, Arnold beats Newman, Halle Berry beats (blank), John Cleese beats Ben Whishaw. Though I admit Bérénice Marlohe beats Rosamund Pike. But DAD has cars sliding through the ice; what a fantastic, stylish sight that is!
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns The Phantom Planet
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    jobo wrote: »
    I don't like SF and I never have and like everyone else I am entitled to my opinion.

    Oh sorry. I forgot to add IMHO at the end, to make sure I didn't hurt anyone's feelings...

    Lol my feelings are not hurt, it's just some are not able to grasp that other people won't necessarily agree with them.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya “We are thrilled to delay B25”
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    jobo wrote: »
    I don't know if all those who prefer DAD to SF are actually being serious, or if it's more a matter of making a statement of some sort...

    I think both are really poor bond films, the only difference in my mind is that I can watch DAD as a stupid fun movie and be entertained while I don’t find myself very entertained during the grim dark plotless skyfall.
  • edited December 2017 Posts: 684
    LALD over TMWTGG - These two are neck-and-neck for me, but lately I've been feeling the LALD love a bit more. I think it holds together a bit better than the latter, and though I do love Rog's TMWTGG performance, I think his debut here is in most ways equal.

    SF over DAD - SF is mid-pack in my book, but the final hour of DAD is simply too ludicrous. Fifteen years on, I enjoy the fun, classic Bond formula, but Jinx and the robosuit spoil however 'fresh' that formula may now seem in the midst of the current era.
  • Andi1996RueggAndi1996Ruegg Hello. It's me, Evelyn Tremble.
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    mattjoes wrote: »
    Also, Brosnan in DAD beats Craig in SF, Arnold beats Newman, Halle Berry beats (blank), John Cleese beats Ben Whishaw. Though I admit Bérénice Marlohe beats Rosamund Pike. But DAD has cars sliding through the ice; what a fantastic, stylish sight that is!

    This is exactly how I feel about it and why I also picked DAD over SF.
    In the end the entertainment value is more important than recognizing artistic value (?)
  • Posts: 8,551
    To me, SF is leaps and bounds ahead of DAD in both artistic value and entertainment value. DAD may be consistently entertaining for some, but to me it is a drag much of the way. Just having the action scenes doesn’t make it more entertaining. Not to me anyway.
  • MooseWithFleasMooseWithFleas Philadelphia
    Posts: 2,608
    LALD over TMWTGG - LALD is my #4 at the moment, while TMWTGG has always been in the 15-20 range.

    SF over DAD - SF sits in the back half of the top 10, while DAD is in the 20's.
  • Posts: 3,823
    Sitting through DAD is a borefest sprinkled with uncomfortable, cringy moments. SF is entertaining.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    @jobo, funny how some here have said the exact same thing, only with the movies switched. :)
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Bored into my skull.
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    One half of the World laughs at the other, and Fools are they all.

    Everything is good or everything is bad according to the votes they gain. What one pursues another persecutes. He is an in-sufferable ass that would regulate everything according to his ideas. Excellences do not depend on a single man's pleasure. So many men, so many tastes, all different. There is no defect which is not affected by some, nor need we lose heart if things please not some, for others will appreciate them. Nor need their applause turn our head, for there will surely be others to condemn. The real test of praise is the approbation of famous men and of experts in the matter. You should aim to be independent of any one vote, of any one fashion, of any one century.

    (Gracian)
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    LALD & SF. I didn't have to grapple with this one.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Bored into my skull.
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    Another landslide round.

    LALD beats TMWTGG 26-4

    SF beats DAD 23-7


    Round 3:

    TB vs NSNA

    and

    LALD vs CR
  • BirdlesonBirdleson San Jose, CAModerator
    Posts: 26,164
    I like NSNA, but it cannot come close to the real deal. In 1965, Connery is still in top form, and we get possibly the best dialogue in the series.
    TB

    I generally have LALD at a respectable 6 or 7 in my rankings, but my Top Four, of which CR vacillates between the 3 and 4 spot, is a level above. That is near perfection.
    CR
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited December 2017 Posts: 23,883
    TB vs NSNA - like @Birdleson I enjoy NSNA, but TB is my firmly ranked #2 Bond film and therefore the winner is clear for me. Sean Connery is at the peak of his considerable powers as Bond in TB and the supporting cast & dialogue are absolutely first class. Add in a sublime John Barry score and victory is assured.

    LALD vs CR - CR for the win, but it's damn close. CR hovers around 4 or 5 in my rankings and LALD is usually in the 9-10 slot. Both great films but CR is better & more game changing. Ask me in a few years and my mind may have changed however, as the Craig era is fast declining in my estimation as time proceeds and the longer it drags on.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya “We are thrilled to delay B25”
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    Thunderball a million times over and I don’t even like thunderball.

    Casino Royale by a million because it’s the best bond film. Live and Let Die is a standard good bond adventure but not ground breaking
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Bored into my skull.
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    I will just join in with the rest.
  • Posts: 8,551
    Another easy round for me:

    TB over NSNA: I don’t hate NSNA, but I prefer all the EON Bond films. It has a few good parts, but cohesively pretty meh IMO. TB is a solid entry, and while not perfect, is still a very good Bond film. Has some of my favorite Bond girls and an amazing performance from Connery.

    CR over LALD: I like LALD a lot, but CR is my #1 Bond film. Simply beats all the others for being too good.
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