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Still he was condemned because he was right.
The conflict of right and right, you could say.
I don't think the pope was right then. Don't think the current pope is right on much now.
Well, I'm no Papist either, rather a Presbyterian, but I was thinking in more general terms of Christianity.
Christianity got it wrong a couple of times too.
On my way to bomb muslim terrorists the next day
A Communist who believes in God. How novel!
I don't know if we can consider Putin a communist, although he was at a time. But in any case, given that Communism is an economic and political ideology, nothing in its core prevent a believer in such ideology to also believe in God. yes, Marx was an atheist, and so were many Soviet leaders. But Stalin was a superstitious man, North Korea's brand of communism is by any practical mean both monarchist and theocratic (their leader being presented as godly) and of course even before the invention of the term there were many religious communities that had collectivist economies.
Yes, they were Christians. Wiping out God's chosen race.
Worse than nonsense that is one of the most vicious lies ever told.
Hahaha! It happens quite a bit. There's an old adage that "there are no women on the Internet" because some people think that modern women are too sensitive to endure teasing or harassment. Here's the thing: Not once have I been harassed on the Internet. And I'm all OVER the place. I'm actually going to hazard that harassment on the Internet is not as common as people think it is.
Yeah, no sexist misogynist dinosaurs allowed!
Everything you said was on point, as far as I'm concerned. This...
...is bang on the money. And this...
sums up just where I think we both went wrong.
Agreed. Shaw once said something to the effect of, "I get into my most heated arguments with those I agree with most." The man had it perfectly right.
Always needed, my friend. ;) Helps me not to take my thoughts or my self too seriously. Wandering down a path of ideas entertains me, and I'd hate to have any seriousness spoil it.
Well the respect is certainly mutual, and I agree re: the gratitude for such discussions. Not only am I clearer on your points, I'm clearer on my own, and we've realized we're largely in agreement to boot.
The late, great Sir Roger was a prime believer in a deprecating and modest lifestyle, and it got him quite far. I also think that life choice and part of his personality made his existence much more pleasant because he rode life by the breeze instead of fighting the wind every step. A role model, in many ways, but especially for that attitude.
Wimbledon station commuters flee train in 'Bible' panic
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-41466140
They should do the same in the UK. But of course they won't.
Indeed. I think politicians are way behind the people on that, at least in the West.
You need to believe in God to get elected, so religious faith is a bit of a pre-requisite for getting those votes!
Not so much in the UK any more.
I was speaking more from a US perspective. An atheist president who didn't finish every speech with "God bless America" feels like the unicorn equivalent of a politician to me.
Anyone can say that. It's Mum and Apple Pie. Doesn't mean they necessarily mean it. Hitler mentioned God in his speeches too.
Publicly though any prospective presidential candidate is dead in the water if he doesn't at least pretend to believe in public.* That in itself is extremely depressing.
At least the notion that some of them just put it on for the sake of public appearances and don't actually believe is something of a comfort.
*In Christianity obviously. To openly state you are a Muslim would kill your campaign as stone dead as if you admitted to being a nonce.
Maybe but theists do get a free pass they would not get otherwise. Theresa May is completely disconnected from the voters and I'd argue it is partially because of her backward vision of what Britain should be, i.e. a Christian nation. And that's the same with the bishops in the House of Lords and their anachronistic views that still influence the laws of the land.
As for Hitler he never renounced Catholicism and there's no indication whatsoever that he was an atheist.
Catholic ( went to church every morning ) but have it up to follow the teachings of Hitler ?
( I'm not arguing with anyone, this is just what I've been told for years ? )