Favourite John Glen BOND? (POLL ADDED)

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  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    Well, if we're going by that logic, OHMSS and Spy are also in my top ten
  • BirdlesonBirdleson San Jose, CAModerator
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    As editor or second unit director I have some.
  • LTK is my fav film of all time.
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    1. Octopussy
    2. TLD
    3. AVTAK
    4. LTK
    5. FYEO
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
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    John Glen made a very odd bunch of Bond films. Unlike Young, Hamilton or Gilbert he didn't seem to have a definitive style.

    1. Octopussy. I do like the soft focus feel to this one. And the action folds into the film more smoothly than it does in some of his other films.
    I'm like everyone else when it comes to the 'jokes' incorporated into the jungle chase, but it's easy to forgive them when the rest is so exciting, the stunts so admirable and the cast chewing the scenery for all it's worth. My enjoyment of OP has rarely faltered.

    2. The Living Daylights. I enjoy this one for much the same reasons as Octopussy, but on the plus side TLD has no stupid jokes, and a younger actor to add more vigour to the action sequences. I'm no fan of Dalton's theatrics. In an otherwise excellent pre-title sequence he delivers the line 'Better make that two' enunciating like MacBeth rather than Bond. Only four words and he blows it. A very good Bond film nonetheless.

    3. For Your Eyes Only. Rooky director misses a few tricks (the scene where Kristatos is revealed by Columbo to be the villain is tossed away with no thought for tension or dramatic effect). But a relief after Moonraker to get Bond back on the ground. Always struggled to engage fully with FYEO due to the way the action sequences are paced (the ice hockey fight follows right behind the ski-ing, the submarine battle right after the fight with the diver. As a result both are a drag), and the length of these sequences.

    4. A View To A Kill. Feels flat, tired and monotonous. Moore who looks so good in FYEO now looks like his own granddad. Some good stunts in Paris, Walken at his psycho best, little else.

    5. Licence To Kill. I've tried, I've really tried, but LTK always leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. Mean, brutal, hard-nosed, call it what you will, it came at a time when we got the stylish exciting Die Hard, and dear God it's not hard to see why DH was a roaring success and LTK met with indifference. Dalton does his best but he isn't an actor who can take the lead in a multi million dollar action film. He gurns and eye-swivels but when he is with Robert Davi he gets acted off the park.
    The climatic tanker chase is an absolute rip snorter though. Dalton and Davi do a great job in those scenes.
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    TLD
    FYEO
    LTK
    OP
    AVTAK
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    NicNac, pretty much disagree with a lot you say re Glen! Regarding Dalton, i think he nailed Bond pretty much when he first turns to camera in that superb intro shot in TLD!
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
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    Mathis1 wrote: »
    NicNac, pretty much disagree with a lot you say re Glen! Regarding Dalton, i think he nailed Bond pretty much when he first turns to camera in that superb intro shot in TLD!
    And what's more Mathis1, you are right. And so am I! That's what is great about such a vast and diverse series, we all have differing views.

    I do agree about Dalton's first shot though, really good.

    I remember the first time watching TLD at the cinema, we weren't that familiar with Dalton and at first we thought he was the first 00 whose rope is cut! Dead in the first 5 minute!!
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    1. For Your Eyes Only
    2. Octopussy
    3. The Living Daylights
    4. Licence To Kill
    5. A View To A Kill
  • GBFGBF
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    1. The Living Dsaylights (1/24)
    2. For your eyes Only (2/24)
    3. A View to a Kill (8/24)
    4. Octopussy (13/24)
    5. Licence to Kill (18/24)
  • goldenswissroyalegoldenswissroyale Switzerland
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    1. TLD (fantastic pre-title sequence and explosive milk)
    2. FYEO (great car chase and snow action, exciting climbing)
    3. LTK (Robert Davi, beautiful women, a lot of Q)
    4. OP (a mix between fantastic action and strange humour)
    5. AVTAK (too many stuntmen for Roger)

    John Glen did a really good job, especially the action is very satisfying.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Enemy of the state
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    1. TLD (fantastic pre-title sequence and explosive milk)
    2. FYEO (great car chase and snow action, exciting climbing)
    3. LTK (Robert Davi, beautiful women, a lot of Q)
    4. OP (a mix between fantastic action and strange humour)
    5. AVTAK (too many stuntmen for Roger)

    John Glen did a really good job, especially the action is very satisfying.

    Almost the same as me, except I would swap your no. 1 with no. 2.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    TLD, then OP and FYEO, LTK and finally AVTAK.
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    OP
    AVTAK
    FYEO
    TLD
    LTK
  • AntiLocqueBrakesAntiLocqueBrakes The edge
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    1. TLD (one of my favorites)
    2. FYEO (Moore's best performance, IMO)
    3. LTK (way underrated)
    4. OP (Part 1/2 of over the hill Roger. Not without its charm though)
    5. AVTAK (Part 2/2. Cool theme song ... though)
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    1. FYEO good first effort. Pacing and acting a bit off.
    2. OP better second effort. Better acting but that's probably due to the actors not Glen. Fun PTS. Silly Tarzan yell and tennis sound effects ruin otherwise good sequences and relegate this one to second.
    3. AVTAK silly but ok. Walken/Zorin wasted on a nonsensical plot to destroy Silicon Valley. Why? They don't manufacture microchips in Silicon Valley. Moore plays Bond straight hoping no one notices he's aged beyond the role.
    4. TLD written for Brosnan ..Dalton misused and wasted on technically and artistically subpar film. Acting sucks too. However, Koskov nice well written character. Still facking his assassination attempt with fack bullets and an idiot on either side of the wall would figure out baffles me. Barry's worse score ...nice cameo though. Horrible special effects.
    5. LTK. Probably a great film there somewhere but wow what cheap casting and pathetic acting etc... Dalton deserved far better than a director just a notch above any given YouTuber.

    Glen is obviously not my favorite.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 4,466
    In defense of John Glen, he seamlessly worked the action sequences into the film like no director before or since. He cared about the action scenes.

    I'd rank his films as follows:

    TLD
    OP
    FYEO
    LTK
    AVTAK
  • MurdockMurdock Mr. 2000
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    1.FYEO
    2.OP
    3.LTK
    4.AVTAK
    5.TLD
  • MrBondMrBond Station S
    Posts: 2,044
    1. OP (10/24)
    2. FYEO (19/24)
    3. TLD (20/24)
    4. LTK (21/24)
    5. AVTAK (23/24)
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Enemy of the state
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    mcdonbb wrote: »
    4. TLD written for Brosnan ..

    Where did you hear that?
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    Posts: 4,116
    mcdonbb wrote: »
    4. TLD written for Brosnan ..

    Where did you hear that?

    He had all but signed and D'abo tested with Brosnan. Modifying the script was in the news back then..

    Didn't make that up :)
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Enemy of the state
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    Dalton was the first choice.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    edited November 2016 Posts: 4,116
    No he wasn't ...he was considered way back with DAF but Dalton was never first choice for TLD.

    In fact when MTM wouldn't release Brosnan from his Remington contract Sam Neil was actually the next choice before Dalton. Wasn't until Wilson I think saw Dalton on stage that his name resurfaced.

    All this is well documented in the news back then.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Enemy of the state
    Posts: 41,579
    Not the way I remember the story. Dalton had to decline the offer due to his commitments with Brenda Starr. By the time Brosnan got tied up again, he was finally available.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    edited November 2016 Posts: 4,116
    D'abo thought it was strange testing with Brosnan and then he ended up not getting the part due to Remington.

    I recall Dalton filming Brenda Starr but the release of that film got delayed.

    That's the way I remember.

    Brosnan conversely wasn't the first choice for GE just the obvious choice. Brosnan had finally gotten the role after losing the role in 86 due to contractual obligations not to Dalton.

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    1.LTK (The most interesting,down to earth and brutal, feels like a mid-90s movie)
    2.OP (Could have been no1 if only those ridiculous scenes were missing)
    3.TLD (Great movie, but awful battle with the main vilain)
    4.FYEO (Not that great, not that dark as people say)
    5.AVTAK (It could be a great intro to Dalton)
  • LFSLFS
    edited July 2020 Posts: 42
    1. Licence to Kill
    2. For Your Eyes Only
    3. The Living Daylights
    4. A View to a Kill
    5. Octopussy

    John Glen is my 2nd favorite Bond director; he obviously peaked with Dalton. I recommend everyone to read his autobiography "For My Eyes Only".

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    OK lets give this a go :

    1.OP
    2.LTK

    3.AVTAK
    4.FYEO
    5.TLD

    Big jump between LTK and the rest,and very close between OP and LTK,both brilliant and so different.
  • Posts: 19,339
    LFS wrote: »
    1. The Living Daylights (fantastic)
    2. License to Kill (very good)
    3. For Your Eyes Only (very good)
    4. Octopussy (quite enjoyable)
    5. A View to a Kill (terrible)

    John Glen is my 2nd favorite Bond director. I recommend everyone to read his autobiography "For My Eyes Only".

    When did he write that ?
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    mcdonbb wrote: »
    D'abo thought it was strange testing with Brosnan and then he ended up not getting the part due to Remington.

    I recall Dalton filming Brenda Starr but the release of that film got delayed.

    That's the way I remember.

    Brosnan conversely wasn't the first choice for GE just the obvious choice. Brosnan had finally gotten the role after losing the role in 86 due to contractual obligations not to Dalton.

    Afraid you're wrong! Dalton was always first choice. They only went with Brosnan because Dalton wasn't available. When the MTM thing happened with Brossa, and they dropped him, Dalton became available (A play he was doing closed earlier than expected)
    And Dalton was first considered for OHMSS, but turned it down because he felt he was too young. He was considered again for FYEO and OP!
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