Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    RC7 wrote: »
    Turner is nowhere near as high profile, hence his general absence from discussion.

    Absent? no. Quiet? yes.

  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Szonana wrote: »
    So if cavil wants it i want him too, he would mske a great Bond and it would be complete departure from Craig.

    Why; because he looks superb handsome to you?

    Looking like Bond and actually embodying the character aren't mutually exclusive. If Cavill before had no chance of being Bond since becoming Superman with the way things are shaping up, he REALLY has no chance whatsoever in getting the role.
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    I'll give all the other actors mentioned a pass on the Bond self promo, except for Elba. He has been obnoxious in interviews calling it the "will of a nation" that he do Bond. He also noted in some interviews that he was now more famous as Bond than any Bond actor. He's been campaigning for the job for over 3 years, long before SF came out and there was any talk of Craig vacating the role. The press may question him about Bond, but he gives out quotes that are eye ball rolling.
  • RC7RC7
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    talos7 wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    Turner is nowhere near as high profile, hence his general absence from discussion.

    Absent? no. Quiet? yes.

    Which is why I said 'general absence'. His name is out there, but he's doing very little next to the other candidates, so his name is not perpetuated in quite the same way.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    RC7 wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    Turner is nowhere near as high profile, hence his general absence from discussion.

    Absent? no. Quiet? yes.

    Which is why I said 'general absence'. His name is out there, but he's doing very little next to the other candidates, so his name is not perpetuated in quite the same way.

    Indeed, and if he is being considered, it's also very smart on his part.

  • SzonanaSzonana Mexico
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    doubleoego wrote: »
    Szonana wrote: »
    So if cavil wants it i want him too, he would mske a great Bond and it would be complete departure from Craig.

    Why; because he looks superb handsome to you?

    Looking like Bond and actually embodying the character aren't mutually exclusive. If Cavill before had no chance of being Bond since becoming Superman with the way things are shaping up, he REALLY has no chance whatsoever in getting the role.


    Partly but also because i think he is the best to bring back the more classic portrayal of Bond, charming, cool, fun and he has the charisma to portray the character.
    The film wasnt as succesful asthey wanted but Cavil did show he is Bond material in The man from UNCLE.

    His Bond would be very much in the style of Pierce Brosan

  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    I don't really see it myself but if you think so.
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
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    Szonana wrote: »

    Partly but also because i think he is the best to bring back the more classic portrayal of Bond, charming, cool, fun and he has the charisma to portray the character.
    The film wasnt as succesful asthey wanted but Cavil did show he is Bond material in The man from UNCLE.
    His Bond would be very much in the style of Pierce Brosan

    i did enjoy Man from UNCLE as well and i think some people take that movie a bit to serious when it was clearly meant to be over the top and a bit ridiculous, so Cavills performance was like that as well.
    I would consider Cavill as Bond, alone for the scene where he was sitting in the Truck and watching his friend getting shot at while eating a sandwich and drinking wine. That might have been my single most favorite movie scene of that year. so Bond.
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    Cavill is wrong for Bond for almost opposite reasons that Hiddles is wrong. I wish I could recall the article that I read about playing Bond shortly after CR came out. It remains one of the most astute articles I've ever read about the difficulties of playing Bond. The author noted that playing Bond is only 50% acting Bond, the other, and perhaps more difficult 50% is promoting Bond. There are no do-overs on the interviews or print interviews and an actors intelligence, patience and common sense get severely tested in the 1,000s of interviews they have to endure.

    Cahill's looks are perfect for Bond. Tall, dark and handsome, but I've seen him interviewed and he comes off downright dense. He's not a kid anymore, he's in his 30s and he interviews like a pretty boy model. Playing a super hero is not playing Bond. Much more will be expected of him in interviews, and he'd never cut it. In thousands of interviews, Craig made one dumb comment (slit my wrist etc) that will follow him to his grave. I don't think you can underestimate how tough it is to promote a Bond film, and the next Bond better have the right temperament (not Elba) and smarts (not Cahill) to do it right.
  • edited March 2016 Posts: 108
    smitty wrote: »
    Cahill's looks are perfect for Bond. Tall, dark and handsome, but I've seen him interviewed and he comes off downright dense.

    I don't understand this at all. To me he comes across as erudite, polite and respectful. Now some might find that boring. He's not the sort of actor to say anything too controversial and maybe he's too nice for his own good, but "dense" he certainly is not.
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    Cahill is about as erudite as Bugs Bunny, and I'm not being fair to Bugs.
  • smitty wrote: »
    Cahill is about as erudite as Bugs Bunny, and I'm not being fair to Bugs.

    Cavill comes from a family of high achievers, has had an expensive education and it shows. You on the other hand cannot even spell his name properly. Sorry, Cavill's done a lot of press recently and I find him knowledgeable and very likeable. Analysing your writing style, I find Cavill's interview technique vastly superior.

  • ThunderballThunderball playing Chemin de Fer in a casino, downing Vespers
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    Ok, I'm sold on Turner. Looks-wise, anyway; I need to see him in more things.

    I still want Craig to do at least one more. He's my first choice to play Bond for the foreseeable future. But it ain't up to me. Just one more, I hope. Turner still looks a little too young, but by the time of Bond 26 or so he'd be right on for the part.
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    It's fascinating to me how different kinds of things people want from their Bond, which is also why people will never agree.

    Obviously Cavill will never actually be Bond, but why anyone would even want him to is beyond me. Might be a nice guy and all, I have no idea, but just... No.
    ... looks are perfect for Bond...

    No.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Turner looks, acts, moves exactly like the Fleming Bond. I believe his strength would be in capturing the cruel, unfeeling side of Bond. His Bond would view the world in simple terms of what he needs to do to accomplish his mission. This would be a stark contrast to Craig's Bond who lies awake at night writing hiaku and wondering where the universe ends.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    ".....writing haiku and wondering where the universe ends". :D
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    smitty wrote: »
    Cahill is about as erudite as Bugs Bunny, and I'm not being fair to Bugs.

    Cavill comes from a family of high achievers, has had an expensive education and it shows. You on the other hand cannot even spell his name properly. Sorry, Cavill's done a lot of press recently and I find him knowledgeable and very likeable. Analysing your writing style, I find Cavill's interview technique vastly superior.

    Cavill has no post prep school education and It shows. He comes from a wealthy family and it would have been very easy for him to go on to a University, but he was too intellectually lazy to do so. The business is filled with guys with no money who had to work hard to get thru a university education. It would have been easy for him, but he didn't bother. Cavill says he likes to read about himself on the net. You're a new poster. Hmmmmm.

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    Of all the endless list of actors touted for Bond I'm beginning to think there is some substance behind the push for Turner. He's got the good looks, and unlike Cavill, he has a good education, and good diverse stage, tv and film acting experience. He also comes off pleasant and intelligent in interviews. I liked Charlie Hunnan, but he is too similar to Craig. Turner ticks a lot of boxes. I have no favorite yet, but I can see why he is is geting lots of favorable comments.
  • edited March 2016 Posts: 108
    smitty wrote: »
    Cavill has no post prep school education and It shows. He comes from a wealthy family and it would have been very easy for him to go on to a University, but he was too intellectually lazy to do so. The business is filled with guys with no money who had to work hard to get thru a university education. It would have been easy for him, but he didn't bother. Cavill says he likes to read about himself on the net. You're a new poster. Hmmmmm.

    Cavill was fortunate enough to get his first acting job while at school and has worked consistently since. Any break to study would have impacted on the opportunities that he was already receiving. It's a position that many actors who started young find themselves in. Laziness has nothing at all to do with what is a practical decision.

    I am not a new poster but one who doesn't feel the need to post that often. I've come to the boards this time because I've noticed your unreasonable attacks on Cavill before and this time I'm challenging them. I fully respect why others think Cavill isn't the right choice for Bond and he isn't my choice either. However, I have no respect for your persistent claims that Cavill is thick and lazy, neither of which you can back up. You seem to have a bee in your bonnet about him for some reason and it's reflecting on you badly.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    smitty wrote: »
    Cavill has no post prep school education and It shows. He comes from a wealthy family and it would have been very easy for him to go on to a University, but he was too intellectually lazy to do so. The business is filled with guys with no money who had to work hard to get thru a university education. It would have been easy for him, but he didn't bother. Cavill says he likes to read about himself on the net. You're a new poster. Hmmmmm.

    Cavill was fortunate enough to get his first acting job while at school and has worked consistently since. Any break to study would have impacted on the opportunities that he was already receiving. It's a position that many actors who started young find themselves in. Laziness has nothing at all to do with what is a practical decision.

    I am not a new poster but one who doesn't feel the need to post that often. I've come to the boards this time because I've noticed your unreasonable attacks on Cavill before and this time I'm challenging them. I fully respect why others think Cavill isn't the right choice for Bond and he isn't my choice either. However, I have no respect for your persistent claims that Cavill is thick and lazy, neither of which you can back up. You seem to have a bee in your bonnet about him for some reason and it's reflecting on you badly.

    Yeah, I don't like Cahill at all but I'd take him over Hiddie or Hardy any day. Those two shouldn't even be considered eligible.
  • edited March 2016 Posts: 725
    smitty wrote: »
    Cavill has no post prep school education and It shows. He comes from a wealthy family and it would have been very easy for him to go on to a University, but he was too intellectually lazy to do so. The business is filled with guys with no money who had to work hard to get thru a university education. It would have been easy for him, but he didn't bother. Cavill says he likes to read about himself on the net. You're a new poster. Hmmmmm.

    Cavill was fortunate enough to get his first acting job while at school and has worked consistently since. Any break to study would have impacted on the opportunities that he was already receiving. It's a position that many actors who started young find themselves in. Laziness has nothing at all to do with what is a practical decision.

    I am not a new poster but one who doesn't feel the need to post that often. I've come to the boards this time because I've noticed your unreasonable attacks on Cavill before and this time I'm challenging them. I fully respect why others think Cavill isn't the right choice for Bond and he isn't my choice either. However, I have no respect for your persistent claims that Cavill is thick and lazy, neither of which you can back up. You seem to have a bee in your bonnet about him for some reason and it's reflecting on you badly.

    Sorry if I'm hurting your feelings, but, yep, I do think he is thick and lazy. Just my .02. I don't post much, so just ignore me and hopefully you'll feel better. I've been much tougher on Hiddles, a far better and smarter actor, but that apparently doesn't register with you.

  • edited March 2016 Posts: 108
    smitty wrote: »
    Sorry if I'm hurting your feelings, but, yep, I do think he is thick and lazy. Just my .02. I don't post much, so just ignore me and hopefully you'll feel better. I've been much tougher on Hiddles, a far better and smarter actor, but that apparently doesn't register with you.

    You're not hurting my feelings. I just think you're being unfair and over the top in your posts about Cavill and it puzzles me where it's coming from. I haven't read your Hiddleston post and maybe I better not. Hiddleston isn't my choice for Bond either. Mendes4Lyfe will be pleased to know I'm in the Turner camp.

    Edit to say that if you're talking about the Hiddleston post at the top of this page, then yes you're much ruder about him than I would be but at least there's the gist of a solid argument - he does appear eager in interviews, and whether an actor's looks are right or wrong for Bond is a valid point of view. In contrast your attempted character assassination of Cavill has no substance and lacks evidence to support your claims.
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    I have no idea what kind of education any Bond actor so far has had, and I generally don't care what kind of education any actor or musician or other artist has. What difference does it make?
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    Tuulia wrote: »
    I have no idea what kind of education any Bond actor so far has had, and I generally don't care what kind of education any actor or musician or other artist has. What difference does it make?

    It does matter. Most actors who go to university or major acting academies like Yale's drama school (Streep and many others) and Guidhall (Craig, Fiennes and tons of others) learn their craft early and their skill and technique in their early roles clearly show it.
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    I don't agree. Sure people learn useful stuff in drama schools etc., but talented people would be good anyway, and not talented won't become great actors no matter how many years they'd go to some school. I think any arts is something you first need to have talent and passion for, and then you learn by observing and doing, not in school.
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    Not every job requires a university degree, but most jobs require training. Talent is meaningless without skill, knowledge and technique which talented people are not born with or pick up just by observing. You could project your education doesn't matter point to all professions. I'd hate to get operated on by a surgeon with "passion and talent" who never went to medical school, and went through an internship and surgery residency. Getting an education takes effort and discipline, and is almost always constructive, no matter someone's line of work.
  • SzonanaSzonana Mexico
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    smitty wrote: »
    Not every job requires a university degree, but most jobs require training. Talent is meaningless without skill, knowledge and technique which talented people are not born with or pick up just by observing. You could project your education doesn't matter point to all professions. I'd hate to get operated on by a surgeon with "passion and talent" who never went to medical school, and went through an internship and surgery residency. Getting an education takes effort and discipline, and is almost always constructive, no matter someone's line of work.

    But don't you think the training can come with practice in terms of acting?
    You can get great bases on acting schools but the most important thing is the practice.

    That's why in so many jobs they ask for a resume which they get impressed by your previous jobs not where you studied.
    Im not saying formal training is worthless it has helped many actors. Most of the best have been formally trained but I don't think it's a most.
    Another profession where the practice is much more important than formal training is Make up artists.
    Sure they can learn techniques going to make up lessons but the practice is what will make them great.

    So maybe it's a 50/50 situación.
    And I'm not saying this just to defend Cavil. But I think many actors who are very good don't believe in formal training.
    Most of the ones who do are more character actorset than leading man are usually The ones who are called method actors.
    It's very rare that a movie star actor had formaleft training and it's just a coincidence that most of the Bond actors did get it except I guess Sean Connery but I have to investigate . Don't want to look like an idiot lol.

    Liam Neeson who has had great career never went to drama school, Jennifer Lawrence who is an Oscar winner said it's stupid going acting schools and acting is just about being a good liar.

    So it's not so horrible not being formally trained

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    you guys are all tripping and bandwagoners a month ago you were all about hiddelston now you all want this short pretty dwarf to be 007 give me a break it will not happen.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Didn't Connery leave school at 12 or something? Yet, no actor since and I doubt ever will come anywhere close to the all round natural brilliance of his performances as James Bond.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    smitty wrote: »
    Not every job requires a university degree, but most jobs require training. Talent is meaningless without skill, knowledge and technique which talented people are not born with or pick up just by observing. You could project your education doesn't matter point to all professions. I'd hate to get operated on by a surgeon with "passion and talent" who never went to medical school, and went through an internship and surgery residency. Getting an education takes effort and discipline, and is almost always constructive, no matter someone's line of work.

    Every job or craft requires training.
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