SPECTRE: It grossed $880 Million Worldwide (..and 2015 was the biggest box office year so far)

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  • edited February 2016 Posts: 725
    Agree with all your points. There have been a lot of posts on the board by those who didn't like SP trying to float the "fact" that SP didn't do well. Yes, it didn't hit SF numbers in NA, but it was still the 10th highest grossing film in NA, and 5th or 6th www in 2015. As you note it hit the same or better admissions that SF did in most of Europe. Only the French attack and the ER made it look like it didn't do as well. Any studio would happily grab thus "underperformer'"
  • edited February 2016 Posts: 725
    I'll go back to the political thread, but Germanlafy needs a reality check about stupid Americans. America never produced a Hitler, and your current government is probably commiting financial suicude by trying to absorb a vast number of imillions of mmigrants that is currently creating a serious extreme right wing backlash. So Germany doesn't exactly get the blue ribbon for smart politics either. I don't like Trumps immigration stand and his ego, but he is no dummy, and he is actually far more moderate in many areas than many if the voters who are backing him.
  • re: Box office. SPECTRE back down to 92 screens in North America, following the "buy one, get one free" promotion at AMC Theaters. $5,000 on Friday. $199,829,527
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    It's hilarious how some try to claim that Spectre was a failure box office wise.

    It sold way more tickets than any other Bond movie in the last 40 years (except Skyfall).

    Especially the newer ones like GE to QOS.

    Box office wise, Spectre is going down in history as the 4th most successful Bond movie of all time (inflation adjusted!) after Skyfall, Thunderball and Goldfinger, whereas Goldfinger could even be debated as it depends on the way you adjust the figures. It could also be No 4 and Spectre No 3.

    That much of a success Spectre is!!!



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    Sadly SPECTRE has too much succes, a little less would have convinced EON perhaps to put in a bit more effort in a good script and less soap.
    Now we get probably more of the same half-arsed script with way too expensive action-scenes that pack no excitement at all.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    Financially SP did fine ...critically it bombed.

    And what's the big deal with NRA? Their biggest claim is the right to protect yourself. Grant it I'm not sure militarized weapons should be civilized but I don't see NRA members attacking Paris or Boston and eyeing London next.

    I'm not really into guns but c'mon what a narrow view of a vast diverse country.

    @Germanlady you usually have my respect but I really don't agree this time.

    By the way I work in a nursing home and I employ two Germans and a Brit. Texas has a somewhat large German population. My point being you can't just lump us all as one group.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    mcdonbb wrote: »
    Financially SP did fine ...critically it bombed.

    And what's the big deal with NRA? Their biggest claim is the right to protect yourself. Grant it I'm not sure militarized weapons should be civilized but I don't see NRA members attacking Paris or Boston and eyeing London next.

    I'm not really into guns but c'mon what a narrow view of a vast diverse country.

    @Germanlady you usually have my respect but I really don't agree this time.

    By the way I work in a nursing home and I employ two Germans and a Brit. Texas has a somewhat large German population. My point being you can't just lump us all as one group.

    No one country has a clean history. Not Canada (my home land where there's undeniable abuse of original Native children); not the US (slavery); Asia (totalitarianism that "cleansed" many millions); not Europe (whether the socialist part of Germany (Nazis), or the communism behind the Iron Curtain); not England's Imperialism of the past).

    We all come from dirty pasts since our collective cultures conveyed our worst. However, the best of humanity is that we adapt, and most of us look towards a progressive future where less lines are drawn in the sand. Or so I naively hope.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    We Swiss are nice. We have cheese, Toblerone, snow and provided some of the most stunning locations for classics like Goldfinger and OHMSS.
    <:-P
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    This isn't the thread to be discussing politics.
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  • edited February 2016 Posts: 110
    SaintMark wrote: »
    Sadly SPECTRE has too much succes, a little less would have convinced EON perhaps to put in a bit more effort in a good script and less soap.
    Now we get probably more of the same half-arsed script with way too expensive action-scenes that pack no excitement at all.

    There's no such thing as "too much success". Spectre did as well as it did because people like it. As others have alluded to on this thread, the ones who did not like this movie are the ones who are touting it as a "failure". It may not be a perfect film, but it's still a pretty darn good one, and the NA and worldwide box office reflect that.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    We Swiss are nice. We have cheese, Toblerone, snow and provided some of the most stunning locations for classics like Goldfinger and OHMSS.
    <:-P

    the Swiss have dark secrets in their closet. During World War II, while they claimed neutrality and sat back and rode out the war, thousands of people deposited their money into it’s banks. Thousands of these account holders were killed in the carnage of the Nazi War machine. Yet when the relatives tried to claim the money, they were denied access to the funds, funds that the banks continued to make interest off. Not only did the Swiss screw over the Nazi victims but they were also the main bankers of the Nazis, funnelling hundreds of millions of dollars into the German war effort

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/35938.stm

    If there are humans, we can do very evil things; but we can also do genuine acts of kindness. None of us are "sin-free".
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
    edited February 2016 Posts: 9,020
    @peter

    I didn't say we are sin-free, we are nice. And what you stated is soon freaking 70 years ago.
    And we still have the best cheese and chocolate >:P

    :))

    but we are home to the FIFA so I guess we are bad after all :))





    ...and to stay on topic and to rub it into some faces...

    Spectre is going down in history as the 4th most successful Bond movie of all time (inflation adjusted!) after Skyfall, Thunderball and Goldfinger.

    Take that! >:) :))
  • Posts: 6,601
    To not further hijack this thread, here some last words. Of course, to make a point, we - usually dont write epos to take everything into account. We all have had very dark times in our history. No question about it. The Christians did in Mittelalter what the Islam tries now etc. BUT imo its about learning from it. Understand more about WHAT leads to peace and what not. This world suffers from not enough will to sacrifice economical win for the sake of landscape ( Alaska for example and any others around the world), still too much overall "never mind what comes behind me" in almost all our leaders. Ego is still ruling and Trump certainly inhabits - for me - absolutely everything from what this world suffers. Its all a lack of love and too much of stamping feet and not seeing beyond own interests. You dont get rich like he did with playing nice. So he will play with the world like he did with his own empire. You win some, you loose some. And since only the Americans have it in their hands to prevent that, I deeply hope, there will be enough clear heads there.

    Ok, little epic and my last words on this. At least here. Someone said, there is a political thread?
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    SP a critical bomb? Oh, how I've laughed at that.
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    mcdonbb wrote: »
    Financially SP did fine ...critically it bombed.

    SP got stacks of good reviews, and many great ones.
    And it has made close to $900 million at the International BO, that's more than "fine". £95 million in the UK, making it number 3 in the all time UK BO.

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    Its true that Sp started with pretty great reviews from Kermode and co. I remember many 4 and 5 star reviews. But sadly it went downhill from there.

    But yes, it did a lot better then I feared after mentioned downward spiral.
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    Some of these critics though are not really worth paying any attention to.
  • Germanlady wrote: »
    Its true that Sp started with pretty great reviews from Kermode and co. I remember many 4 and 5 star reviews. But sadly it went downhill from there.

    But yes, it did a lot better then I feared after mentioned downward spiral.

    That's fine, but which ones are the "correct" ones? The 4 and 5 star reviews or the others?

    Again, solid box office numbers worldwide which suggests many people liked the movie even if it wasn't that great in your eyes.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    Yes, the ratings on RT Metacritic and Imdb are short of disastrous, especially if compared to other Bond movies.
    Before joining this site I never cared at all for such ratings and found them highly questionable. Last Autumn I got nervous because of those ratings and the not so few bad critics for Spectre.
    A mistake. I became close to hysterical, what a waste of my nerves.

    Because in the end, it is the audience at the cinema hall who decides with ticket sales.
    And the audience did decide hugely in favour of Spectre.
  • vzok wrote: »
    Some of these critics though are not really worth paying any attention to.

    That goes both ways though. Some critics that gave the movie bad reviews may not be worth paying attention to either. That said though, who cares? Every critic has a right to their opinion even if they are not well known.
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    I just mean that some critics are purely going for a sensationalist viewpoint and headline - either good or bad - to get people buying / subscribing / clicking.

  • Posts: 1,092
    Critically it did just fine. 64% on RT, 60/100 on Metacritic. What more do you want? Saying it was a bomb is such ridiculous, infantile hyperbole it makes me cringe. @mcdonbb
  • edited February 2016 Posts: 1,631
    The_Reaper wrote: »
    Critically it did just fine. 64% on RT, 60/100 on Metacritic. What more do you want? Saying it was a bomb is such ridiculous, infantile hyperbole it makes me cringe. @mcdonbb

    By that token, the often derided Quantum of Solace did just fine as well, with a 65% on RT and 58/100 on Metacritic.

    Just playing devil's advocate here, since I think that QoS is the best of the Craig films, but the venom that's often directed at it by a very large segment of the viewing and critic population would suggest that it wasn't well received.

  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited February 2016 Posts: 23,883
    Reviews on the whole by members of the public (which I'm really more interested in than critics) have been somewhat mediocre at best. Certainly not at SF or CR levels, but rather, closer to QoS levels. Some are downright unfair in their criticism, but most tend to point out the issues that members on this forum have also discussed, and which I think are fair.

    At the end of the day, it hasn't been as negative a reaction as QoS, but I notice that it also hasn't been as positive (from those who like it) either. The people who like QoS really like that film and are ardent supporters of it. I have not seen such passionate response for SP among the general public at all. Just from a few members of this board, which is to be expected among the faithful.

    Regarding its box office - it has been great no doubt and that is not open to question. However, it came off of the biggest Bond film in 40+ yrs, and so should have been expected. What should be analyzed is its 'drop off' after the first week opening. E.g. the multiplier in relation to SF. Particularly in large markets like UK & US. That's relevant.
  • vzok wrote: »
    I just mean that some critics are purely going for a sensationalist viewpoint and headline - either good or bad - to get people buying / subscribing / clicking.

    Gotcha. That's a good point.
  • dalton wrote: »
    The_Reaper wrote: »
    Critically it did just fine. 64% on RT, 60/100 on Metacritic. What more do you want? Saying it was a bomb is such ridiculous, infantile hyperbole it makes me cringe. @mcdonbb

    By that token, the often derided Quantum of Solace did just fine as well, with a 65% on RT and 58/100 on Metacritic.

    Just playing devil's advocate here, since I think that QoS is the best of the Craig films, but the venom that's often directed at it by a very large segment of the viewing and critic population would suggest that it wasn't well received.

    You are correct. Absolutely what I have been saying.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    My experience with QOS at the cinema was that the PTS more or less ruined the movie for me back then. I saw just blurring pictures speed by, and sadly after the title sequence it didn't get much better in the first action sequence. After that, the positive mood for the movie was practically destroyed and the whole experience felt derailed.
    I know quite a few people who felt similar back then.

    QOS could have been another CR. If I had one wish for the franchise, it would be that QOS had been directed by Martin Campbell. Imagine that.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    edited February 2016 Posts: 4,116
    ColonelSun wrote: »
    mcdonbb wrote: »
    Financially SP did fine ...critically it bombed.

    SP got stacks of good reviews, and many great ones.
    And it has made close to $900 million at the International BO, that's more than "fine". £95 million in the UK, making it number 3 in the all time UK BO.

    65% and below is not good. Consensus on faults was pretty uniform everywhere so compared to well received films it bombed.

    Mendes is a well trained award winning director ...he shouldn't give us films like that.

    Yea it bombed.

    And @Reaper don't be a baby. It's not "infantile" it's my opinion based on whom was involved. I don't have to like your movie don't whine about or constantly be insulting.
  • edited February 2016 Posts: 725
    Your use of the word "bomb" is rather unique. SP may not have been a critical darling in the US but saying the film bombed is just, well false. The 10th best BO in the US where it did under perform and the 5th or 6th top grosser world wide in 2015 is hardly a bomb. I write and review copy for a living so words have meaning for me. You turned quickly in your view of SP, but you can't change the meaning of a word simply because you are running out of words to use to trash SP.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    edited February 2016 Posts: 4,116
    smitty wrote: »
    Your use of the word "bomb" is rather unique. SP may not have been a critical darling in the US but saying the film bombed is just, well false. The 10th best BO in the US where it did under perform and the 5th or 6th top grosser world wide in 2015 is hardly a bomb. I write and review copy for a living so words have meaning for me. You turned quickly in your view of SP, but you can't change the meaning of a word simply because you are running out of words to use to trash SP.

    Ok it didn't bomb. It was a media darling. Not worth the fight to respond to your pretense and insults.

    To paraphrase Bond from SP "oh that sounds delightful, sir."

    If you read my original quote I used the word bomb I believe to make a point that no Bond didn't bomb at the BO but did perform less well critically.
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