Who should/could be a Bond actor?

SuzanneStone · September 2015

Szonana wrote: »

Germanlady wrote: »

He didnt end up being a Favorite after Shades, Au contraire. The girl stole the Show.

Do you mean Dakota Stole the show from Jamie ?

I actually agree but i think Dakota Johonson had advantge of being open minded with the material and liked her character, Jamie said he felt very uncomfortable with the S&M thing.

Dakota ( Ana) was more ok with the whole thing than Jamie so she had much more fun portraying her part.
Usually in a movie like that the guy shines more because he has the meatier part and is more complex. So this film is one of very strange cases where the actor with lesser material upstaged the other one.

Dakota had a better attitude towards the film than Jamie but i think with the material feels more ok with he could do great and i think James Bond could be that film for him.

I've only read the first book so I can't speak for Ana's character in the other parts, but there was nothing likable about her, and I doubt Dakota Johnson feels differently. You can see both her and Dornan are in actual pain when they have to say that embarassing dialogue aloud. There really is no complexity to either of their characters, so I applaud Dakota in particular for making Ana seem like an actual human. I feel worst for the screenwriter though. She wanted to scrap out all of the book's worst elements, but was vetoed by the author. E.L. James had way to much influence over all of the creative elements, and I blame her solely for Dornan's robotic performance and everything else that's wrong with both the movie and the book (which is a lot!). Poisoning the world with her ridiculous books is one thing, but it pisses me off when someone is willing to cash in the money by selling the filmrights and then craps all over the creative input and ideas of other (more skilled and experienced) people who not only know more about film, but are trying to elevate her piece of shit book into something that isn't entirely embarassing. She's the one who wanted to stick to the idiot dialogue as described in her books and the unrealistic motivations and behavior of her characters. And so I have no problem with Johnson and Dornan simply using this franchise as a tool to attain a greater level of fame and thus better movie roles.

suavejmf · September 2015

If Craig quits, then I have no issue with Tom Hardy or Michael Fassbender for 007. However I hope Craig comes back for another.

fanbond123 · October 2015

I think Craig has kind of killed the Bond as male model template. I like Craig as Bond, but I don't for a minute think, and the women in my family agree, that he is at all conventionally handsome. Sometimes he is photographed in a way that makes him look good, in a rough and tough kind of way, but sometimes, he can look pretty bad. Mendes and Logan made him look far older than his years in SF with that cropped hair cut, white stubble and plot. They did him no favors. I think he needs to be groomed and photographed carefully in a film to look really good. Hopefully that will happen in SP. However, I kind of think he doesn't give a damn.

I sort of wished Craig was made to look a bit more like the traditional image of James Bond. Had Eon gone with this look with Casino Royale I think fans and general film goers would have accepted it:

Has a slight Sean Connery look, perhaps? Not as strikingly handsome as Sean Connery, but with darker hair he seems closer to the Connery template.

Had Craig started off with darker hair, darker contact lenses from the pre-credit scene in Casino Royale, I doubt many or any fans would say "they should have kept him with his natural hair/eye colour." I think we'd just accept he's playing Bond so he's got darker hair/eyes. It wasn't meant to be but it's an intriguing 'what if' scenario.

doubleoego · October 2015

Dying Craig's hair would have made him look ridiculous and thank God they had the sense to leave it alone. Besides, it's not as though he's Malfoy blonde and once CR was released anyway, well, his performance and the movie itself subverted expectations of what a Bond movie is. Craig's election as Bond was a casting coup.

mcdonbb · October 2015

doubleoego wrote: »

Dying Craig's hair would have made him look ridiculous and thank God they had the sense to leave it alone. Besides, it's not as though he's Malfoy blonde and once CR was released anyway, well, his performance and the movie itself subverted expectations of what a Bond movie is. Craig's election as Bond was a casting coup.

Agreed. That pic looks more like Norm McDonald than James Bond.

Germanlady · October 2015

Not really. Looks terrible on him.

http://www.hotflick.net/pictures/big/006INF_Daniel_Craig_008.html

BondJasonBond006 · October 2015

To cast a blond blue eyed guy and then dye his hair darker or having him wearing darker contact lenses would just be silly.

I suppose Craig has always been "natural" in the Bond movies, or am I wrong?

MajorDSmythe · October 2015

Dying his hair is worse. I'm not bothered about Bonds hair colour (so long as it isn't something stupid like green or blue). It would still be Daniel Craig as Bond, and that is what would need changing.

SirHilaryBray · October 2015

You watch YOLT Connery have Blonde highlights at the front of his hair. I personally think Craig suits the slim/skinny fit he's the weary downtrodden Bond a man of action, rather than one of immaculate vision with corny chat up lines. Much more reflectent of a hero of modern day than the 50's and 60's. Due to Craig's physique tailor fit hangs of him at the shoulders making him look like he's wearing his dad's suit to work.

suavejmf · October 2015

doubleoego wrote: »

Dying Craig's hair would have made him look ridiculous and thank God they had the sense to leave it alone. Besides, it's not as though he's Malfoy blonde and once CR was released anyway, well, his performance and the movie itself subverted expectations of what a Bond movie is. Craig's election as Bond was a casting coup.

Totally agree.

Getafix · October 2015

SirHilaryBray wrote: »

I would put Dalton and Brosnan in the same bag. Apart from that I don't see any of the Bonds being similar in their portrayal.

bondjames wrote: »

Szonana wrote: »

I want a Brosnan/Conneryapproach and I also support this guy. I haven't seen him act but looks wise seems like the perfect choice especially In the first Picture

I found their approaches quite different to be honest, so I'm not quite sure which your preference is. They were both reasonably tall and had black hair, but from my point of view, the similarities sort of ended there.

I've always felt that Lazenby, Dalton, and even Craig have more similarities with Connery than Brosnan did.

What I meant is that I loved how Connery had a very classicaly handsome look and even though non were exactly as though and intense as Dalton and Craig

Ok, thanks, I get it now. Yes, I think inevitably the next actor will be a little more finessed and just a little less intense than DC.

I really think Christian Bale would, even now, be marvelous, even if, due to his age, it's just for one or two 'period piece' Bonds under Nolan's direction. He combines the intensity of Craig with just a touch of required suaveness.

Bale as Wayne had Bond written all over him.

SirHilaryBray wrote: »

I would put Dalton and Brosnan in the same bag. Apart from that I don't see any of the Bonds being similar in their portrayal.

I thought Dalton in Vienna in the early part of TLD (with Saunders) was as close to early Connery as I've seen up to then and since. Just that early part. "Bring the chair"

How I wish the rest of TLD was up to the same standard as the opening half hour. It has plenty of fine moments after that, and remains one of my favourites, but it just shows how damn amazing the Dalton era could have been.

BondJasonBond006 · October 2015

@Getafix

But isn't the Dalton era damn amazing? For me it is.

I'm not sure on your ranking. Where do TLD and LTK stand? (if you do rankings)

Getafix · October 2015

I've always liked Dalton, but Connery and Roger were better.

TLD sits in my top ten. LTK probably just outside.

I rank Dalton third or fourth probably.

suavejmf · October 2015

BondJasonBond006 wrote: »

@Getafix

But isn't the Dalton era damn amazing? For me it is.

I'm not sure on your ranking. Where do TLD and LTK stand? (if you do rankings)

Yes. The Dalton era is class. LTK is the best Bond film of the 80's.

SuzanneStone · October 2015

The picture of DC with dark hair looks awful. I prefer Bond with dark hair too, but for Daniel I think the light coloring works, because it emphasizes his coldness. And I generally think men don't look good with dyed hair.

bondjames · October 2015

Szonana wrote: »

SuzanneStone wrote: »

Szonana wrote: »

SuzanneStone wrote: »

Germanlady wrote: »

If they want BO, Cavill or even worse Dornam would be the way to kill it. Dornam doesnt Even has the looks, as is agreed After Shades and Cavill is dead in the acting and charisma Department. Also largely public opinion, I believe.

Charlie Hunam is a likely candidate, now or later.

Charlie Hunnam, like Daniel Craig, reminds me of Dopey from Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. Needless to say, it messes up my entire image of Bond. :p Another roughed up blonde dude. Unless he's a phenomenal actor like Craig, I don't see why they can't cast a real class act again. Some of the suggestions in this topic are absolutely frightening. Also Cavill and Dornan are a no-go, that's for certain.

Charlie Hunnam can look like Bond when he is clean shaven and his hair color is darkened

Just look at this add

http://youtu.be/enzT6uBZgZQ

The helmet haircut he's sporting there scares me even more. If this commercial proves anything, it's that he probably wouldn't have any trouble dealing with Bond girls.
:P

I still don't see the appeal though.

Really ?

I found him sonattractive and sexy very James Bond style and big part of James Bond is dealing with the Bond girl which charlie showed he is great with the ladies.

Anyway its funny how female and male fans of this franchise care for different characteristics in a Bond actor.
We girls care more if he is handsome and Sexy. That we would belive him as womanizer ladies man while the male audiences care more if he fights well and hoe though and dangerous he is .

I think it's just a matter of opinion really.

I want my Bond to be credibly handsome, sexy and a womanizer as well (although I'm a male & quite hetro).

I've found some Bonds more effective in this area than others. My top 3 are SC, RM & DC in that order. The worst was TD, unquestionably, imho.

fanbond123 · October 2015

With respect, I think people are saying "he looks ridiculous with darker hair" in hindsight. As I mentioned, had he started out with darker hair/dark contact lenses in CR no-one would have questioned it. I mean, some fans may have commented or been critical but you'd get used to it. By the time QOS came along fans would expect Craig to maintain the darker hair/darker eye colour.

Craig has acted with darker hair/darker eyes. The film Infamous:

Can't see anything ridiculous about how he looks. He looks like a guy with darker hair and eyes. What's the big deal? It's a case of adjusting your perception of Craig. We know he's naturally fair with bright blue eyes. You need to readjust, that's all. :D

I still maintain he looks closer to the Sean Connery James Bond image with darker hair. But I accept that wasn't the look Eon wanted to go with. Times change!

SirHilaryBray · October 2015

See those pictures before, he is very like Connery in those pictures.

bond_azoozbond · October 2015

He was like Connery in CR .. When he beated Dimitrios and took his DB5 & girl ;) .. I was like Woow this is james bond ..

bondjames · October 2015

bond_azoozbond wrote: »

He was like Connery in CR .. When he beated Dimitrios and took his DB5 & girl ;) .. I was like Woow this is james bond ..

Agreed. That was one of many defining scenes in CR that screamed early Connery.....the likes of which we hadn't seen for 40+ yrs at that point.

Getafix · October 2015

He looks bizarre with dark hair. Does he have prosthetics on his face as well? Looks totally different!

Thunderfinger · October 2015

And why should he change his eye colour? It is Connery who should have gotten blue contact lenses, if the idea is to resemble Bond the most.

BAIN123 · October 2015

fanbond123 wrote: »

I think Craig has kind of killed the Bond as male model template. I like Craig as Bond, but I don't for a minute think, and the women in my family agree, that he is at all conventionally handsome. Sometimes he is photographed in a way that makes him look good, in a rough and tough kind of way, but sometimes, he can look pretty bad. Mendes and Logan made him look far older than his years in SF with that cropped hair cut, white stubble and plot. They did him no favors. I think he needs to be groomed and photographed carefully in a film to look really good. Hopefully that will happen in SP. However, I kind of think he doesn't give a damn.

I sort of wished Craig was made to look a bit more like the traditional image of James Bond. Had Eon gone with this look with Casino Royale I think fans and general film goers would have accepted it:

Has a slight Sean Connery look, perhaps? Not as strikingly handsome as Sean Connery, but with darker hair he seems closer to the Connery template.

Had Craig started off with darker hair, darker contact lenses from the pre-credit scene in Casino Royale, I doubt many or any fans would say "they should have kept him with his natural hair/eye colour." I think we'd just accept he's playing Bond so he's got darker hair/eyes. It wasn't meant to be but it's an intriguing 'what if' scenario.

Hi 1984 Arnold Schwarzenegger. We knew you'd be back ;)

Thunderfinger · October 2015

Shouldn t he shave his head and get a toupee instead?

Also, he needs eyebrow extensions, and some lipstick.

doubleoego · October 2015

bond_azoozbond wrote: »

He was like Connery in CR .. When he beated Dimitrios and took his DB5 & girl ;) .. I was like Woow this is james bond ..

Haha! Precisely

suavejmf · October 2015

Thunderfinger wrote: »

And why should he change his eye colour? It is Connery who should have gotten blue contact lenses, if the idea is to resemble Bond the most.

Yep. Bond has blue eyes according to Fleming. As for hair colour Craigs natural hair colour is the way to go and suits him. Dying hair for the role is camp.

Murdock · October 2015

Wow Craig looks creepy with Brown eyes. his hair dye job is pretty good but I'd want the Bond actors to be their natural appearance. As long as they give a great Bondian performance I'm happy. None of the actors who've played Bond looked like this and I wouldn't want them too.

dominicgreene · October 2015

I think a good idea (direction?) for a new Bond actor would be something pronouncing the loner, quiet, confident, assertive, perhaps psychopathic part of Bond? I always thought of him as a self-made emotionless being. I was thinking something along the lines of Alain Delon in Le Samourai,

Szonana · October 2015

SuzanneStone wrote: »

Szonana wrote: »

Germanlady wrote: »

He didnt end up being a Favorite after Shades, Au contraire. The girl stole the Show.

Do you mean Dakota Stole the show from Jamie ?

I actually agree but i think Dakota Johonson had advantge of being open minded with the material and liked her character, Jamie said he felt very uncomfortable with the S&M thing.

Dakota ( Ana) was more ok with the whole thing than Jamie so she had much more fun portraying her part.
Usually in a movie like that the guy shines more because he has the meatier part and is more complex. So this film is one of very strange cases where the actor with lesser material upstaged the other one.

Dakota had a better attitude towards the film than Jamie but i think with the material feels more ok with he could do great and i think James Bond could be that film for him.

I've only read the first book so I can't speak for Ana's character in the other parts, but there was nothing likable about her, and I doubt Dakota Johnson feels differently. You can see both her and Dornan are in actual pain when they have to say that embarassing dialogue aloud. There really is no complexity to either of their characters, so I applaud Dakota in particular for making Ana seem like an actual human. I feel worst for the screenwriter though. She wanted to scrap out all of the book's worst elements, but was vetoed by the author. E.L. James had way to much influence over all of the creative elements, and I blame her solely for Dornan's robotic performance and everything else that's wrong with both the movie and the book (which is a lot!). Poisoning the world with her ridiculous books is one thing, but it pisses me off when someone is willing to cash in the money by selling the filmrights and then craps all over the creative input and ideas of other (more skilled and experienced) people who not only know more about film, but are trying to elevate her piece of shit book into something that isn't entirely embarassing. She's the one who wanted to stick to the idiot dialogue as described in her books and the unrealistic motivations and behavior of her characters. And so I have no problem with Johnson and Dornan simply using this franchise as a tool to attain a greater level of fame and thus better movie roles.

Ok a very late replay but is better lattter than ever right ?

Ok i read the three books and they were fun guilty pleasures, sure they are written like if you were reading US, people and Ok magazine but i was entertained.

Now yes im not saying Anna was the greatest movie character or something like it im just saying that she truly stole the show from Jamie and her character for some reason turned out to be better than Jamie's on screen while in the Book Christian is the more interesting.

I guess too much wrambling ended up messing my post.

tigers99 · October 2015

Daniel Craig also dyed his hair to play the part of poet Ted Hughes in the film Sylvia about Sylvia Plath. But I agree, should stay with his natural hair colouring.

I would be happy I think for Fassbender or Hardy to play Bond, but Damien Lewis would be good too I think, I believe he's done some Bond on Bond audio books? What about his hair colouring?

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