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Take Scream for example. Williamson's script is so brilliant, a director has to be completely dysfunctional not to turn out a good movie. But Craven too can write good scripts. Especially NOES hits the right notes. But I still struggle with things a bit. Was Nightmare just a one-time-only bit of luck? Or has Craven more in him?
In truth, I think Craven is very eloquent; I always enjoy listening to him talk about films. Also, having read a few books about him, I feel like some of his productions never got a chance from their sponsoring studios; either Craven was given too little time and money, or cuts were ordered that destroyed a film. So in a way I do sympathise with the man.
In the end, I don't think Craven is the "Master Of Horror". At the very least, Carpenter should get that title before Craven does. But I don't think he's a lousy filmmaker either. So I guess I'll come down in the middle. ;-)
I have however read his novel Fountain Cociety, and that is not bad at all. A little inconsistent in tone, but apart from that not bad writing at all.
i compare him a lot to George Romero.. If you look at the entire body of work, both of them are pretty hit or miss, both have a reputation built off their early and more successful works - but most of the films they've made recently are terrible or simply don't measure up to what they've done in the past..
</b>Who is your favourite live action movie Joker?</font>
We have:
- Cesar Romero (Batman '66)
- Jack Nicholson (Batman '89)
- Heath Ledger (The Dark Knight)
Please use the following model:
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Ledger's Joker is by far the more creepy of the latter two. He plays into all of our contemporary fears. He wreaks havoc just for sake of it, targets literally everyone and cannot be bargained with. Also, we know almost nothing about him. Where he comes from, what his motives are. He's a mystery, and a very dangerous one. Alfred sums it up nicely with his famous phrase "some men just want to watch the world burn". That's almost a perfect reflection on our post-9/11 fears. So while I can't see the Nicholson Joker get very far in real life, the Ledger one, at least in principle, feels like a true threat.
In a nutshell, I need to decide between the cartoonish Nicholson with his great acting and the painfully realistic Ledger with his equally great acting. I guess I'm ultimately going for the guy that creeps me out most. I don't know where he comes from, I don't even fully understand his motives, if he even has them, but I'm willing to accept that with this guy on the loose, no-one is safe anymore: Ledger's Joker is my choice.
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Easy.
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No doubt in my mind.
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Ledger (3)
This thread needs an enema!
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I think that all three worked well within their own eras. Romero was the first Joker that I saw so I'll always have a soft spot for his version. He was an inspiration for Nicholson even twenty years later, so that speaks volumes on how iconic he was. I like how Ledger showed us the true nature of the Joker's psychopathic, twisted mind but he wasn't as much fun to watch as the other two. Perhaps Jack is in the middle of the two extremes.
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Nicholson was a great self-entertaining psycho in a world created for the sustainability of such absurdity.
The keystroke is truly mightier than the sword!
Since I never saw Romero, I find it unfair to vote. And I wouldn´t even be sure which one to favor, Nicholson or Ledger. I´m not very good at polls.
Cesar Romero was good in the campy Batman Era, but that same character wouldn't have gone over today.
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That's impressive!
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So, that's why I choose Nicholson.
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I always find it fascinating how differently people see things. I'm sure people who find Nicholson's Joker funny think it's peculiar some don't. I'm equally amazed some people think Ledger's Joker isn't funny, or isn't having fun. I think he's hilarious (he makes me laugh unlike Nicholson), and seems to me to be having plenty of fun, too.
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