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  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    @MSL49 you have been asked numerous times not to double post.
    Also asking when someone was born is clearly spam. You can easily look up the birthdate of Jack Lowden.

  • Daniel_MartinDaniel_Martin Brazil
    edited 9:34am Posts: 5
    I watched American Horror Story Season 8 recently and I was blown away by Cody Fern perfomance as The Antichrist. The character was incredibly complex. He was charming, majestic and mysterious. I was absolutely fascinated, only to see in the next chapters his troubled past, as a abused foster kid, which he also played masterfully.

    He was shown as scared, depressed and vulnerable. That wasnt shallow. All that range came from within. Honestly I dont see any other actor with such wide range and depth a mile away

    Another point most "experts" forget: A major breakthrough movie needs a relatively unknown cast. Otherwise, you wont see the characters but the actors. Can you imagine Gladiator played by Tom Cruise or Brad Pitt? No, and why? Because you would be non stop comparing it with his previous roles. Thats why when you watch Gladiator you only see Gladiator

    I see a lot of people here talking about Henry Cavill. Although I like his work, and he was great as Superman and The Witcher, he has too much baggage already, and Cavill has a fraction of the range of Fern. Henry Cavill would be at his very best the second coming of Pierce Brosnan

    The 007 Franchise is down not because they dropped a bomb on James Bond. The moment they put a small frail comedian as the Ultimate Villain Boss, a cheap copycat from Bastard Inglorious to money trap the masses I knew James Bond was done. James Bond was never about the masses! That was so horrible that made Skyfall looks good

    We need to bring back Casino Royale. Possibly the team as well, at least partially. Casino Royale was Perfection. Quantum of Solace was ok. Skyfall could have been great if wasnt for that unnecessary Queer of a Villain with that fake hair and mommy issues. And that deformed face cliche was terrible (OFC they had to repeat that in Spectre). But Hans Landa was "The Sum of All Fears". Hans Landa takes the cake. That was my worst Nightmare. And I knew they would do it

    In the lowest moment of my life, when I lost literally everything and I mean everything, I watched Casino Royale and that was the most beautiful thing I have ever seen. The scene when he got his Aston Martin I promised to myself "I will fight to the end of my forces to be like him". Thats how much James Bond means to me.

    Daniel Martin
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Daniel_Martin wrote: »
    I watched American Horror Story Season 8 recently and I was blown away by Cody Fern perfomance as The Antichrist. The character was incredibly complex. He was charming, aristocratic and mysterious. I was absolutely caught by him, only to see in the next chapters his troubled past, as a abused foster kid, which he played masterfully.

    He then was shown as scared, depressed and vulnerable. That was no shallow. All that range came from within. Honestly I dont see any other actor with such a wide range and charisma a mile away

    Another point most "experts" forget: A major breakthrough movie needs a relatively unknown cast. Otherwise, you wont see the characters but the actors. Can you imagine Gladiator played by Tom Cruise or Brad Pitt? No, and why? Because you would be non stop comparing it with his previous roles. Thats why when you see Gladiator you only see Gladiator

    I see a lot of people here talking about Henry Cavil. Although I like his work, and he was great as Superman and even better as The Witcher, theres too much baggage, and Cavil has less than a fraction of the range of Fern. Henry Cavil would be at his very best the second coming of Pierce Brosnan

    The 007 Franchise is dead not because last movie Bond got Nuked. The moment they put a small frail popular comedian as the Ultimate Villain Boss, cheap a copycat from Bastard Inglorious to money trap the masses I knew James Bond was done. James Bond was never for the masses, That was so horrible that made Skyfal looks good

    We need to bring back Casino Royale formula. Possibly the team as well, at least partially. Casino Royale was Perfect. Quantum Solace was ok. Skyfall could have been the best if not that unnecessary Queer of a Villain with cheap fake hair and mommy issues. And that deformed face cliche was terrible (OFC they had to repeat that in Spectre). But Hans Landa was my personal "The Sum of All Fears". That was my worst Nightmare. And I knew they would do it

    In the lowest moment of my life, when I lost literally everything and I mean everything, I watched Casino Royale and that was the most beautiful thing I ever seen in my life. The Moment he got his Aston Martin I promised to myself "I will fight to the end of my forces to be like him". What Im trying to say is this Franchise is very very dear to me

    James Bond needs to be built from Ground Up. Only a totally new face and team with massive talent will do the job

    Daniel Martin

    Welcome, great first post! :-bd
  • Daniel_MartinDaniel_Martin Brazil
    edited October 19 Posts: 5
    Thank You. I Appreciated it
  • Daniel_MartinDaniel_Martin Brazil
    edited October 19 Posts: 5
    Actually I edit it so I think its a better read now. I Hope you enjoy my Brazilian English
  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
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    talos7 wrote: »
    Unless they come to the same conclusion as EON and realize that a more mature, seasoned actor is needed for the role.

    I wouldn't expect any surprises. I think they're going to do what they said they were going to do.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    Could be fun if part of M.'s assignment is to grow a beard.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited October 20 Posts: 19,416
    George_Kaplan wrote: »
    QBranch wrote: »
    Lowden's on my short list of realistic suggestions. Believe me when I say that orange beard will shave right off. Perhaps he'll even do a Gillette promo...

    JACK%20LOWDEN%202.jpg

    I wonder if the next Bond will have a beard or stubble. It seems more common for men these days to have a bit of growth than to be clean shaven. They might see it as a way of modernising his appearance and, perhaps, make the actor look more mature.

    It's barely perceptible, but Brosnan actually wore a hint of stubble in GE, maybe the later ones too. The makeup person apparently thought it 'took the edge off' his slightly improbable good looks.
  • George_KaplanGeorge_Kaplan
    edited October 20 Posts: 864
    mtm wrote: »
    George_Kaplan wrote: »
    QBranch wrote: »
    Lowden's on my short list of realistic suggestions. Believe me when I say that orange beard will shave right off. Perhaps he'll even do a Gillette promo...

    JACK%20LOWDEN%202.jpg

    I wonder if the next Bond will have a beard or stubble. It seems more common for men these days to have a bit of growth than to be clean shaven. They might see it as a way of modernising his appearance and, perhaps, make the actor look more mature.

    It's barely perceptible, but Brosnan actually wore a hint of stubble in GE, maybe the later ones too. The makeup person apparently thought it 'took the edge off' his slightly improbable good looks.

    Yes, I did notice that. Two o'clock shadow, I call it.
  • Since62Since62
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    talos7 wrote: »
    Since62 wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    LucknFate wrote: »
    We could do so much better than Jack Lowden.

    We could do much worse than Jack Lowden

    The fact you could do worse is not compelling in making you do something. The fact you could do much better, however, is compelling to make you do better. Mr. Lowden is terrific in that TV show, but as Bond ? He's a wee man.

    Like all opinions, this is debatable…

    Actually, I think Lowden could be excellent as this generation’s Bond, and would mature into the role very nicely…

    He'll get taller ? Bulkier ? People can bulk up, but it doesn't work as well for a shorter person and he cannot get taller.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Since62 wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Since62 wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    LucknFate wrote: »
    We could do so much better than Jack Lowden.

    We could do much worse than Jack Lowden

    The fact you could do worse is not compelling in making you do something. The fact you could do much better, however, is compelling to make you do better. Mr. Lowden is terrific in that TV show, but as Bond ? He's a wee man.

    Like all opinions, this is debatable…

    Actually, I think Lowden could be excellent as this generation’s Bond, and would mature into the role very nicely…

    He'll get taller ? Bulkier ? People can bulk up, but it doesn't work as well for a shorter person and he cannot get taller.

    He is 6’1’….
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    talos7 wrote: »
    Since62 wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Since62 wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    LucknFate wrote: »
    We could do so much better than Jack Lowden.

    We could do much worse than Jack Lowden

    The fact you could do worse is not compelling in making you do something. The fact you could do much better, however, is compelling to make you do better. Mr. Lowden is terrific in that TV show, but as Bond ? He's a wee man.

    Like all opinions, this is debatable…

    Actually, I think Lowden could be excellent as this generation’s Bond, and would mature into the role very nicely…

    He'll get taller ? Bulkier ? People can bulk up, but it doesn't work as well for a shorter person and he cannot get taller.

    He is 6’1’….

    He doesn’t look over six foot does he?

    He’d be a fine Bond, I’m not sure I see him in a DV Bond film though(?)
  • Daniel_MartinDaniel_Martin Brazil
    edited October 20 Posts: 5
    Daniel Craig is 5'10 on a good day and he was the best Bond in my book. Jean Claude Van Damme is 5'7 and he was my hero. Im 5'11 and I broke the arm of a 6'5 armwrestler champion. People talk all the time "oh imagine if Mike Tyson were tall". If Mike Tyson were tall he wouldnt move with a fraction of that speed. In Martial Arts Speed is EVERYTHING. Same in Nature and Action Movies: Speed kills. Speed is what kills. You guys are obsessed about height. If you know one thing or two about Martial Arts a tall guy will never move with the same speed a medium height guy will. A tall guy would NEVER move the speed and coordination Daniel Craig did.

    And what was that photo of a guy shaving a fake XVIII Century beard??? That was the fakest thing I have ever seen in a long long time. I could deal with a $3 dollar bill. And JB are always shaved anyway so whats the point???

    I checked most of the names you guys hinted and they all gave me NPC vibes. Come on guys help me out. The only one I saw that X Factor is Cody Fern. Yes he is Australian but I bet he has a British grandmom and he looks more British than 99% of people walking in the streets of London so he is good
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    peter wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Since62 wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Since62 wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    LucknFate wrote: »
    We could do so much better than Jack Lowden.

    We could do much worse than Jack Lowden

    The fact you could do worse is not compelling in making you do something. The fact you could do much better, however, is compelling to make you do better. Mr. Lowden is terrific in that TV show, but as Bond ? He's a wee man.

    Like all opinions, this is debatable…

    Actually, I think Lowden could be excellent as this generation’s Bond, and would mature into the role very nicely…

    He'll get taller ? Bulkier ? People can bulk up, but it doesn't work as well for a shorter person and he cannot get taller.

    He is 6’1’….

    He doesn’t look over six foot does he?

    He’d be a fine Bond, I’m not sure I see him in a DV Bond film though(?)

    Agreed. Lowden feels like he'd be best served by a director with a lighter touch. I've only seen him in Slow Horses, though.
  • 007HallY007HallY
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    I don't see much Bond in Lowden unfortunately. Good actor, but not right.
  • George_KaplanGeorge_Kaplan
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    @mtm summed up my thoughts on Lowden best; he's just a bloke.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Odds are, as they are with virtually any actor proposed, Lowden won’t be cast, but Christoper Nolan saw something in him; that says something
  • Daniel_MartinDaniel_Martin Brazil
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    A NPC nobody guy as 007 will do worse for James Bond than Hans Landa as the Ultimate Villain
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    talos7 wrote: »
    Odds are, as they are with virtually any actor proposed, Lowden won’t be cast, but Christoper Nolan saw something in him; that says something

    Nolan saw something in Harry Styles, that's faulty logic.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Odds are, as they are with virtually any actor proposed, Lowden won’t be cast, but Christoper Nolan saw something in him; that says something

    Nolan saw something in Harry Styles, that's faulty logic.

    The prominence of their roles were greatly different; your assessment of my logic is faulty… 😉
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    I liked Harry Styles in Dunkirk.
  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
    edited 8:19am Posts: 2,475
    Harry Styles is at least younger than Lowden :)
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Actually, for some time. Styles was my dark horse pick ; his acting ability wasn’t what I had hoped it would be.
  • 007HallY007HallY
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    Not sure I can see Harry Styles carrying a movie, much less carrying a major role like Bond.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    007HallY wrote: »
    Not sure I can see Harry Styles carrying a movie, much less carrying a major role like Bond.
    At this point I agree, but with the right haircut, and attire, he had a great look, as well as a good speaking voice. I had hoped he would develop as an actor but it never happened.

  • George_KaplanGeorge_Kaplan
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    007HallY wrote: »
    Not sure I can see Harry Styles carrying a movie, much less carrying a major role like Bond.

    Not to mention he's totally wrong for the role.
  • 007HallY007HallY
    Posts: 6,152
    talos7 wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    Not sure I can see Harry Styles carrying a movie, much less carrying a major role like Bond.
    At this point I agree, but with the right haircut, and attire, he had a great look, as well as a good speaking voice. I had hoped he would develop as an actor but it never happened.

    Yeah, I think he'd struggle to make an impact as Bond. Not saying he's a bad actor by any means, but for this role I think the lead needs to be a bigger screen presence.
    George_Kaplan wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    Not sure I can see Harry Styles carrying a movie, much less carrying a major role like Bond.

    Not to mention he's totally wrong for the role.

    I don't see much Bond in him, acting aside.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    If Villeneuve decides that Harris Dickinson is his Bond we might end up in a "back to the future" type scenario where they have to share the actor with another production and film close ups and inserts when they aren't available.
  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
    edited 12:00pm Posts: 2,475
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    If Villeneuve decides that Harris Dickinson is his Bond we might end up in a "back to the future" type scenario where they have to share the actor with another production and film close ups and inserts when they aren't available.

    No, because the actor needs to get in shape for the Bond role. They'll most likely adjust the Beatles' filming schedule. I don't think he'll be in every scene of all four films.
  • UnivexUnivex
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    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    If Villeneuve decides that Harris Dickinson is his Bond we might end up in a "back to the future" type scenario where they have to share the actor with another production and film close ups and inserts when they aren't available.

    Calm down. Futurism is prone to be done under a dark cloud, my friend. And you're under one.

    It'll be like in the theatre, where it's always some sort of mess that works out perfectly fine in the end ;)
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