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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    That U9 is a good example of the slightly bland, forgettable supercar design that's around, and the current Ferraris are not that at least. Usually they're very beautiful, the 849 isn't my favourite of recent ones.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    If it's a Chinese brand it's a Chinese design. We don't call BMWs Korean when they had a Korean designer. Don't be silly with me.
  • 007InAction007InAction Australia
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    Does it really matter what country makes a car ?
    A lot of people hate Tesla's because of Musk.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    Why would James Bond drive a Chinese car, the implication being a paid partnership? As opposed to a British car? It can be written into the story but I don't like the idea.
  • 007InAction007InAction Australia
    edited September 11 Posts: 2,746
    Yes Maybe if the studio gets a offer they can't refuse it will happen ? or maybe if it's filmed in China ?
    Didn't you like Bond driving a BMW either ?
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    LucknFate wrote: »
    Why would James Bond drive a Chinese car, the implication being a paid partnership? As opposed to a British car? It can be written into the story but I don't like the idea.

    How about driving a Lotus 7, but then, sort of, further developed?

  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    edited September 12 Posts: 7,805
    Audi loo
    007InAction wrote: »
    Yes Maybe if the studio gets a offer they can't refuse it will happen ? or maybe if it's filmed in China ?
    Didn't you like Bond driving a BMW either ?

    My view on this is that Bond is a fellow of style and elegance, and since budgetary restraints do not need to be considered, he would always drive a stylish car, which means by defintion he would prefer a European one (just imo, of course :) ). Same goes for watches, it would be out of character for James Bond to wear an apple watch or whatever that's called. I'd like my Bond to appreciate timeless elegance. Or you might as well give him a baseball cap for the next film.
  • 007InAction007InAction Australia
    edited September 12 Posts: 2,746

    Anyone going ?
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Yep, I'll be there tomorrow and Sunday. Trying to decide on an outfit as the weather is a bit changeable!
  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade
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    007InAction wrote: »
    Ferrari 849 Testarossa

    Nice or Ugly ?

    Neither, rather forgettable. It gives me a Corvette-vibe.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
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    GoldenGun wrote: »
    I'd like my Bond to appreciate timeless elegance. Or you might as well give him a baseball cap for the next film.
    Yeah, a red one inscribed "MAKE AGENTS GREAT AGAIN".
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    j_w_pepper wrote: »
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    I'd like my Bond to appreciate timeless elegance. Or you might as well give him a baseball cap for the next film.
    Yeah, a red one inscribed "MAKE AGENTS GREAT AGAIN".

    :))
  • 007InAction007InAction Australia
    edited September 14 Posts: 2,746
    mtm wrote: »
    Yep, I'll be there tomorrow and Sunday. Trying to decide on an outfit as the weather is a bit changeable!

    You should get a (grey) Anthony Sinclair suit like the one bond wore in DN or GF for such an occasion.
    I'd love to get one for myself, stunning suits. The GOAT of suits ? 🏆
    A tuxedo would be nice too.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Not sure they’d have coped in the conditions! To be honest I like to dress like a guy in the 50s/60s attending a race meeting as a spectator, I don’t go too formal. Lots of amazing outfits and even more incredible cars though. And I happened to stroll past three F1 world champions at different points.
  • 007InAction007InAction Australia
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    You're so lucky to be able to attend such a great event.👍
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Yeah it’s fun, I’ll try to dig out some photos. Might look a bit grimmer than usual in that weather! My ears are still ringing from some of the Grand Prix cars too!
  • 007InAction007InAction Australia
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    1016hp 1971 Aston Martin DBS
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited September 16 Posts: 19,088
    That's extraordinary. I don't know if I like it entirely as it's not really an Aston anymore, but it's certainly extremely impressive.
  • GerardGerard
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    Yesterday, while waiting for the us at the local mall, I saw two interesting cars. First, a new Renault 4 :

    renault-4-studio-2024-hd-02.jpg?itok=At3exb4L

    All I can say is that it doesn't look anything like the Renault 4 which I used to drive all those years ago in the 80s.

    And then, I saw a Renault Rafale.

    Renault_Rafale_%28auto%29.jpg

    First time I saw any of these two cars.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
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    I agree that the Renault 4 e-tech doesn't look anything like the original from the 60s to the early 90s (!). I still think that it is an interesting-looking electric compact vehicle. Just too expensive for a second car used for shopping and driving around in the area.

    As for the Rafale, I think the attempt to cash in on the jet's name is preposterous. It's just yet another plug-in hybrid mini-SUV, neither fish nor flesh. I can't tell most of them apart any more until I see the badge.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited September 17 Posts: 19,088
    When you say it looks nothing like a Renault 4, do you literally mean you can't see the resemblance at all or just that it's not got that same tinny aesthetic as the old one? I think they've updated the shape rather nicely and there's quite a lot of similarities, but more than that I think it's just a really cool-looking car. I love both the R4 and the R5, they're great. Weirdly I saw one parked in the next street a few months back; I'm not sure if a car journo had it or something as I don't think they were on sale then.

    The Rafale, I don't know if I've seen one or not to be honest; as you say JW, it's just another car.
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    I do like the look of both the R4 and 5 incarnations, and see the design cues they picked up from the old model, allthough I'd guess that if you actually put them next to eachother, they do look like utterly different cars.
    Still, it goes to show that design wise, we've ended up in a desert, which is indeed underscored by the 'Rafale'.
    Which I can't describe better than 'a car'. I was checking the Dutch website, and to me, they're definately not promoting it in a way it will stand out. 32 driving support systems? The car 'constantly thinks with you'? And what if I disagree with the car?
    One thing that stands out though, it has '4 wheel steering'.
    I understand it's helpfull for parking in Paris (but I'd go for a smaller car than that in a place like that), but otherwise? Or is the turning circle so bad they had to do it that way?
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    CommanderRoss wrote: »
    32 driving support systems? The car 'constantly thinks with you'? And what if I disagree with the car?

    My issue with most modern cars in one sentence. I do not want to be driven by a car, I want to be the driver myself. I want a car, not a computer on wheels.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    007InAction wrote: »
    1016hp 1971 Aston Martin DBS

    It ruins the beautiful lines of the original DBS,
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 19,088
    CommanderRoss wrote: »
    I understand it's helpfull for parking in Paris (but I'd go for a smaller car than that in a place like that), but otherwise? Or is the turning circle so bad they had to do it that way?

    I don’t really get the complaint. Cars have always used technology to improve on shortcomings, they are made of technology. Yes they made the turning circle smaller with clever thinking. Is that bad?
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    mtm wrote: »
    CommanderRoss wrote: »
    I understand it's helpfull for parking in Paris (but I'd go for a smaller car than that in a place like that), but otherwise? Or is the turning circle so bad they had to do it that way?

    I don’t really get the complaint. Cars have always used technology to improve on shortcomings, they are made of technology. Yes they made the turning circle smaller with clever thinking. Is that bad?

    That part wasn't meant as a complaint, it was a genuine question. Four wheel steering has been demonstrated countless times, but never caught on, for reasons. I was wondering why they decided to go for it in a production model.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I think quite a few cars have used it over the years, moreso recently because I guess the tech has become more affordable.
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