Denis Villeneuve Announced as Bond 26 Director

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  • edited July 8 Posts: 2,304
    mtm wrote: »
    I like IMAX because it fits my TV screen :)
    We have this weird situation where TV went widescreen 25 years or so ago, all TV shows fitted the new screens we all bought, and then recently they've been trying to look more cinematic so have introduced black bars at the top and bottom, whereas big movies in IMAX actually fit the screen: so shows made for my TV don't fit it whereas films made for the cinema screen do!

    I think it's a shame that the Mission Impossible Fallout and subsequent films got released on home media with their IMAX scenes intact, whereas the IMAX bits of Skyfall and NTTD are never to be seen again.

    They are available if you go sailing, not that I advocate that, as they have been broadcast on tv in certain countries.

    I definitely recall ITV showing Skyfall in its 1.90:1 imax aspect ratio when they premiered the film. They dont anymore.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited July 8 Posts: 18,519
    LucknFate wrote: »
    Seeing MIFR in IMAX I do remember thinking "I do not need to see faces this close up" so I too worry about an all-IMAX approach.

    Yeah my mates and I were talking about this recently and one said that IMAX versions of films should be different cuts without the closeups: you don’t need them in IMAX cinemas and sometimes the screen can be too big to actually read the expression on the face if it’s too close in.
    Mallory wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I like IMAX because it fits my TV screen :)
    We have this weird situation where TV went widescreen 25 years or so ago, all TV shows fitted the new screens we all bought, and then recently they've been trying to look more cinematic so have introduced black bars at the top and bottom, whereas big movies in IMAX actually fit the screen: so shows made for my TV don't fit it whereas films made for the cinema screen do!

    I think it's a shame that the Mission Impossible Fallout and subsequent films got released on home media with their IMAX scenes intact, whereas the IMAX bits of Skyfall and NTTD are never to be seen again.

    They are available if you go sailing, not that I advocate that, as they have been broadcast on tv in certain countries.

    I definitely recall ITV showing Skyfall in its 1.90:1 imax aspect ratio when they premiered the film. They dont anymore.

    Oh really? I didn’t know that, thanks.
  • Posts: 2,304
    mtm wrote: »
    LucknFate wrote: »
    Seeing MIFR in IMAX I do remember thinking "I do not need to see faces this close up" so I too worry about an all-IMAX approach.

    Yeah my mates and I were talking about this recently and one said that IMAX versions of films should be different cuts without the closeups: you don’t need them in IMAX cinemas and sometimes the screen can be too big to actually read the expression on the face if it’s too close in.
    Mallory wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I like IMAX because it fits my TV screen :)
    We have this weird situation where TV went widescreen 25 years or so ago, all TV shows fitted the new screens we all bought, and then recently they've been trying to look more cinematic so have introduced black bars at the top and bottom, whereas big movies in IMAX actually fit the screen: so shows made for my TV don't fit it whereas films made for the cinema screen do!

    I think it's a shame that the Mission Impossible Fallout and subsequent films got released on home media with their IMAX scenes intact, whereas the IMAX bits of Skyfall and NTTD are never to be seen again.

    They are available if you go sailing, not that I advocate that, as they have been broadcast on tv in certain countries.

    I definitely recall ITV showing Skyfall in its 1.90:1 imax aspect ratio when they premiered the film. They dont anymore.

    Oh really? I didn’t know that, thanks.

  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited July 8 Posts: 18,519
    Mallory wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    LucknFate wrote: »
    Seeing MIFR in IMAX I do remember thinking "I do not need to see faces this close up" so I too worry about an all-IMAX approach.

    Yeah my mates and I were talking about this recently and one said that IMAX versions of films should be different cuts without the closeups: you don’t need them in IMAX cinemas and sometimes the screen can be too big to actually read the expression on the face if it’s too close in.
    Mallory wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I like IMAX because it fits my TV screen :)
    We have this weird situation where TV went widescreen 25 years or so ago, all TV shows fitted the new screens we all bought, and then recently they've been trying to look more cinematic so have introduced black bars at the top and bottom, whereas big movies in IMAX actually fit the screen: so shows made for my TV don't fit it whereas films made for the cinema screen do!

    I think it's a shame that the Mission Impossible Fallout and subsequent films got released on home media with their IMAX scenes intact, whereas the IMAX bits of Skyfall and NTTD are never to be seen again.

    They are available if you go sailing, not that I advocate that, as they have been broadcast on tv in certain countries.

    I definitely recall ITV showing Skyfall in its 1.90:1 imax aspect ratio when they premiered the film. They dont anymore.

    Oh really? I didn’t know that, thanks.


    Oh wow, look at that! Thank you! How great does that look?
    Release the IMAX cut MGM, you cowards! :D

    That seems to be in 4K HDR, I wonder where they got that from?
  • Posts: 2,304
    mtm wrote: »
    Mallory wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    LucknFate wrote: »
    Seeing MIFR in IMAX I do remember thinking "I do not need to see faces this close up" so I too worry about an all-IMAX approach.

    Yeah my mates and I were talking about this recently and one said that IMAX versions of films should be different cuts without the closeups: you don’t need them in IMAX cinemas and sometimes the screen can be too big to actually read the expression on the face if it’s too close in.
    Mallory wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I like IMAX because it fits my TV screen :)
    We have this weird situation where TV went widescreen 25 years or so ago, all TV shows fitted the new screens we all bought, and then recently they've been trying to look more cinematic so have introduced black bars at the top and bottom, whereas big movies in IMAX actually fit the screen: so shows made for my TV don't fit it whereas films made for the cinema screen do!

    I think it's a shame that the Mission Impossible Fallout and subsequent films got released on home media with their IMAX scenes intact, whereas the IMAX bits of Skyfall and NTTD are never to be seen again.

    They are available if you go sailing, not that I advocate that, as they have been broadcast on tv in certain countries.

    I definitely recall ITV showing Skyfall in its 1.90:1 imax aspect ratio when they premiered the film. They dont anymore.

    Oh really? I didn’t know that, thanks.


    Oh wow, look at that! Thank you! How great does that look?
    Release the IMAX cut MGM, you cowards! :D

    That seems to be in 4K HDR, I wonder where they got that from?

    As Jim Fanning would say... " Marginal qualities from dubious sources..." :D

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    It reminds me of when Sam Mendes was announces as the director for Skyfall and later Spectre. I was really curious to see what kind of style he would bring to Skyfall.

    I feel the same way about Denis. I'm not sure what kind of magic and style he will bring to Bond 26 but after seeing his previous work, I'm hopeful. Bond 26 should make the beginning of a brand new era and possibly with a new story arc or even standalone sequels, especially if a new actor takes on the role.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    Posts: 4,677
    packadd wrote: »
    It reminds me of when Sam Mendes was announces as the director for Skyfall and later Spectre. I was really curious to see what kind of style he would bring to Skyfall.

    I feel the same way about Denis. I'm not sure what kind of magic and style he will bring to Bond 26 but after seeing his previous work, I'm hopeful. Bond 26 should make the beginning of a brand new era and possibly with a new story arc or even standalone sequels, especially if a new actor takes on the role.

    I am excited about Villeneuve. As for the new Bond, I am OK with front-runner Aaron Taylor-Johnson.

    I can see Theo James in the role. Same with Paul Mescal. Either is fine with me.

    I am not crazy about Harris Dickinson, Richard Madden, or Jacob Elordi but can be talked into liking any of them.

    I do NOT want former superheroes in the role: so no to Cavill and Holland.

    I think Rege Jean Page and Henry Golding could be interesting, inspired choices. (Golding doesn't seem to want it.)

    Callum Turner and Josh O'Connor don't look the part at all.

    Elba and Hardy are too old and I wish people would stop mentioning them.


  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 18,519
    He started shooting Dune 3 today. I feel a bit sorry for him really, I know folks are hyped for more Dune but imagine how the press tour will go, there'll be so many questions about Bond.
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
    Posts: 4,416
    I'm still intrigued as to how Villeneuve will adapt the actionless and quite frankly bizarre, Dune Messiah...
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    I'm still intrigued as to how Villeneuve will adapt the actionless and quite frankly bizarre, Dune Messiah...

    Is it the book where someone's girlfriend or wife has an orgasm watching her partner climbing a mountain?
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
    Posts: 4,416
    Ludovico wrote: »
    I'm still intrigued as to how Villeneuve will adapt the actionless and quite frankly bizarre, Dune Messiah...

    Is it the book where someone's girlfriend or wife has an orgasm watching her partner climbing a mountain?

    Er, i can't remember..! The novel was a struggle, i know that!
  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
    Posts: 1,090
    Doesn’t Paul get his eyes burnt out and start preaching, or was that in Children?
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
    Posts: 4,416
    Doesn’t Paul get his eyes burnt out and start preaching, or was that in Children?

    Yes. But he can still sort of see...🫤
  • SeveSeve The island of Lemoy
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    I'm still intrigued as to how Villeneuve will adapt the actionless and quite frankly bizarre, Dune Messiah...

    I agree with you, it's going to be a huge challenge
  • Posts: 15,880
    Ludovico wrote: »
    I'm still intrigued as to how Villeneuve will adapt the actionless and quite frankly bizarre, Dune Messiah...

    Is it the book where someone's girlfriend or wife has an orgasm watching her partner climbing a mountain?

    Er, i can't remember..! The novel was a struggle, i know that!

    I know it happens in one of the books, but no idea which one.
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    Posts: 4,638
    Enemy inspired by Bond

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    Cinematography by Roger Deakins vs Nicolas Bolduc

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    Time To Get Out. Throwback to the Maintitle of SF (House above Daniel Craig his head)
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    and QOS (By Bond saying to Mr White: Time To Get Out).

    Bond inspired by Enemy/Prisoners

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    ?? Enemy inspired by Bond ? Or more Bond inspired by Enemy ??
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    Prisoners:
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    Whyle i must think more about TDK.

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    Sand In Your Eyes in QOS / Blinded by the light in Prisoners with person looks very much on Daniel Craig. Cinematography on Prisoners is Roger Deakins who did Skyfall and there a couple of other pictures from Prisoners where get inspiration from Skyfall.

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    Theme: One last view with in the middle Bond looking down when Patrice falling.

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    That's amazing, @M_Balje, you're far more prone to seeing these patterns than most of us, and that's incredible of you, well done, my friend. And I agree, DV's subconscious must've been very much influenced by these films he saw on repeat. Direct influence, I'd say. Well done! It's uncanny. What an eye, my friend.
  • SeveSeve The island of Lemoy
    edited July 13 Posts: 678
    I'm not convinced, I'm sure I could find equivalents of all these parallels in many other films, if I were to spend the time looking.

    My impression is that they are familiar types of shot, that have been used on numerous occasions before across the decades, in the Thriller / Suspence / Espionage / Crime Fiction genres.
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    Sure, I guess both of you are right. One option is not antithetical of the other. But M_Balje did take the time to look, so one does respect that, immensely.
  • SeveSeve The island of Lemoy
    Posts: 678
    Univex wrote: »
    Sure, I guess both of you are right. One option is not antithetical of the other. But M_Balje did take the time to look, so one does respect that, immensely.

    Yes, it demonstrates that Villeneuve has been studying his craft and knows how to utilise it
  • edited July 14 Posts: 2,218
    Seve wrote: »
    I'm not convinced, I'm sure I could find equivalents of all these parallels in many other films, if I were to spend the time looking.

    My impression is that they are familiar types of shot, that have been used on numerous occasions before across the decades, in the Thriller / Suspence / Espionage / Crime Fiction genres.

    There are also trends that make films from one era look similar.

    I once mentioned that 20 years ago, "no one" cared about cinematography in films. It was very arty.

    Now movies have to look pretty. Even if it's Mad Max ;)
  • Posts: 15,880
    Seve wrote: »
    I'm not convinced, I'm sure I could find equivalents of all these parallels in many other films, if I were to spend the time looking.

    My impression is that they are familiar types of shot, that have been used on numerous occasions before across the decades, in the Thriller / Suspence / Espionage / Crime Fiction genres.

    There are also trends that make films from one era look similar.

    I once mentioned that 20 years ago, "no one" cared about cinematography in films. It was very arty.

    Now movies have to look pretty. Even if it's Mad Max ;)

    That's actually true. Even the blandest Netflix thriller now looks good and is filmed in Prague or Italy or something.
  • edited July 14 Posts: 6,934
    I take it you guys mean Hollywood run of the mill films and are forgetting italian neorealism, the french nouveau vague, the epics of David Lean, Kubrick’s entire filmography, Ingmar Bergman, Hitchcock, … and all that was true cinema for a long time. But if we do mean 20 years ago, well, there was this post Matrix mania of colour filters that ruined most chances for films to be pretty. And the word “gritty” has been plaguing the last two decades. On that regard, I do agree. Maybe we’re on a renaissance of cinematic beauty.
  • Posts: 15,880
    Univex wrote: »
    I take it you guys mean Hollywood run of the mill films and are forgetting italian neorealism, the french nouveau vague, the epics of David Lean, Kubrick’s entire filmography, Ingmar Bergman, Hitchcock, … and all that was true cinema for a long time. But if we do mean 20 years ago, well, there was this post Matrix mania of colour filters that ruined most chances for films to be pretty. And the word “gritty” has been plaguing the last two decades. On that regard, I do agree. Maybe we’re on a renaissance of cinematic beauty.

    Don't get me wrong: I doubt any film nowadays can match Barry Lyndon's level of beauty. It was gorgeousness and gorgeosity, to quote a character from another Kubrick movie. But for say the last decade or so, I do find films by and large more beautiful overall than before, even films I don't like. Not from the best, but from the worst, so to speak. Bad comedies, generic action movies, ridiculous melodramas, the look seems to have improved. It's my impression anyway.
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    The nature of filmmaking is as time goes on technology and the craft develops. Between camera and post-production capabilities and cinematographers having so much to draw from visually, it makes sense that the impression is given that films look 'prettier' or at least more accomplished in terms of cinematography.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    Posts: 4,677
    mtm wrote: »
    I like IMAX because it fits my TV screen :)
    We have this weird situation where TV went widescreen 25 years or so ago, all TV shows fitted the new screens we all bought, and then recently they've been trying to look more cinematic so have introduced black bars at the top and bottom, whereas big movies in IMAX actually fit the screen: so shows made for my TV don't fit it whereas films made for the cinema screen do!

    I think it's a shame that the Mission Impossible Fallout and subsequent films got released on home media with their IMAX scenes intact, whereas the IMAX bits of Skyfall and NTTD are never to be seen again.

    I recently saw Sinners on TV. Some parts were widescreen (with the black bars) and others were whole screen. I couldn't figure out why and I think you just explained it.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 6,855
    Seve wrote: »
    I'm not convinced, I'm sure I could find equivalents of all these parallels in many other films, if I were to spend the time looking.

    My impression is that they are familiar types of shot, that have been used on numerous occasions before across the decades, in the Thriller / Suspence / Espionage / Crime Fiction genres.

    There are also trends that make films from one era look similar.

    I once mentioned that 20 years ago, "no one" cared about cinematography in films. It was very arty.

    Now movies have to look pretty. Even if it's Mad Max ;)

    TSWLM would like to have a word with you.
  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade
    Posts: 4,450
    This reels off topic, but let me suggest an idea: When times are dreary, its films tend to become more colorful and escapist. "Gritty" will be left to the News.
  • edited July 14 Posts: 5,588
    zebrafish wrote: »
    This reels off topic, but let me suggest an idea: When times are dreary, its films tend to become more colorful and escapist. "Gritty" will be left to the News.

    Perhaps some of the films that resonate during these times are more colourful and escapist. But honestly, I don't believe that's always the case, and it's a very broad thing to say at any rate. Many people would equally argue Horror movies become more popular and commonplace during politically or economically unstable times. Or that some of those more colourful and escapist films adopt elements of cultural commentary they may not have done prior.
  • Ludovico wrote: »
    Seve wrote: »
    I'm not convinced, I'm sure I could find equivalents of all these parallels in many other films, if I were to spend the time looking.

    My impression is that they are familiar types of shot, that have been used on numerous occasions before across the decades, in the Thriller / Suspence / Espionage / Crime Fiction genres.

    There are also trends that make films from one era look similar.

    I once mentioned that 20 years ago, "no one" cared about cinematography in films. It was very arty.

    Now movies have to look pretty. Even if it's Mad Max ;)

    That's actually true. Even the blandest Netflix thriller now looks good and is filmed in Prague or Italy or something.

    I actually have the opposite impression. So many run-of-the-mill movies, even B or C grade, looked way better than the majority of contemporary films. I think digital filmmaking has led to a lot of sloppiness on the production side of things because there’s no longer a need to properly light things, things can just be “fixed in post”, you can just shoot a bunch of lazy coverage rather than being intentional, framing stuff with iPhones in mind, etc. So much Netflix stuff just has drab digital sheen to it.
    At the same time television budgets have gone way up, so you do get big location shooting in otherwise crappy stuff, but it’s a trade off.
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