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In SMALLVILLE there’s an episode where a vial of Clark’s blood is placed next to kryptonite and it literally starts boiling. THAT is how lethal kryptonite is supposed to be. Even if Superman were to lift an entire island made of Kryptonite he should have died right after. It felt like Bryan Singer wanted to have his cake and eat it too by using the famous “Superman is Dead” headline from the comics, but then immediately had him revive at the end looking just fine.
Well it depends, years ago people could tell a full story with interesting characters in well under 2hrs. The first 2 indiana jones films are under 2hrs and so are the first 3 Bond films. Star Wars is 121 minutes and Empire is 124 minutes, so from that perspective 2hrs to tell a Superman story should be plenty.
I do agree with how self-indulgent cinema has become since the millennium, its a bit of a worry the film could be overstuffed.
An awful lot of characters in this?!! Only time will tell?
Odd thing to say when he's there jumping over a tall building! :D
Same here. When I went to Metropolis, Illinois to the Superman Museum (as @peter saw) I felt like a kid on Christmas. It also proves that Superman has barely been touched as a cinematic character. I want this to succeed, but I am a bit nervous. Not as nervous as I was when Zack Snyder was announced as director, or that General Zod was the only villain in MOS. I still think that Superman (2025) has some surprises in store for us.
As part of the promotion for the new SUPERMAN movie, Turner Classic Movies (US) will be broadcasting the 1978 film on the evening of July 10th as part of a block of CHRISTOPHER REEVE movies.
We are lucky to have so much great content of Superman in other media, the Superman museum must have been a great experience.
Gunn does tend to hide things with his trailers, I would not be surprised if one of the characters we keep seeing is a stand in like the Hulk was for Banner in the Hulk buster from the Infinity War trailers.
I think Superman will be good I just hope it gets a good audience, DC messing up there films is tiresome, admittedly I am bored of the cinematic universe thing.
The All Star Superman clip always gives me chills, I love that graphic novel and animated film
Oh yeah, the marketing’s been full on. I doubt many are going to be unaware of this film or get some sort of wrong idea/expectation. I don’t see anything wrong with it.
As for the film itself, I get the sense some people really want it to do badly (mainly those online). I don’t see any reason it’ll flop. Some people might like it more than others or have their own opinions (for me I’m interested in seeing how its cinematography and tone/humour comes across, as those are the things I’m a bit skeptical of going from the trailers). But I’m sure it’ll be fine and essentially be a crowd pleaser.
Yes there's been films creeping out recently I had no idea were coming: I remember the recent Captain America suddenly appearing in cinemas with no promo I'd seen anywhere. Superman has been everywhere, not least posters on every other bus, train station, poster site as well as in front of most YouTube vids. I can't see how the marketing has been poor at all.
Yeah there is an odd undercurrent of that. Maybe putting a dog in is too woke or something :D
I do hope it's good, I like Superman films, and although it's hard to be quite sure how this will land I do like that it looks like it's not aiming for dark and gritty. I will definitely be checking out the reviews. I'm sure Empire will like it: they thought that Captain America film was good...
I saw a little video of James Gunn talking about the Superman costume and how they talked a lot about the little red pants and whether to put them on because they look silly, and then they agreed that Superman wears them because they look silly and he wants to seem unthreatening. Which is fine I guess, I'm glad they justified it to themselves and it's a nice character note about Superman, but to me that seems like people talking who are too close to Superman- his outfit looks silly no matter what! :D
I don't think it looks any less silly when they remove the red knickers- he's still in a leotard with a big red cape and high boots! :))
Seen a few so far that have been comparing it to Raimi’s Spider-Man films, which is something I’ve been thinking about myself since the May trailer and is definitely something I’m on board with.
Yeah, I remember reading their take on it was this Superman's costume was inspired by pro wrestlers (hence the red knickers). I guess Superman's suit was inspired by strongmen in the circus so it makes sense. I do like the idea that he's a character who wants to come across as non-threatening. It's kind of the point of Superman.
A lot of the push back seems to come from fans of the Snyder films and I guess Cavill. I've actually never seen anything quite like it. You didn't get Nolan or Christian Bale fans picking apart trailers for the new Batman film. Hell, even with the whole CraigNotBond thing in 2006 - which you could argue is about as close as this situation gets in regards to DC course correcting and going with a new actor like Bond did - I don't get the sense it exclusively came from people wanting to see Brosnan come back. I don't think it'll have an impact on this film's success either way.
My instinct is this film will be more in tone for Superman than what we got with Snyder (they're very strange films to rewatch. They're a bit of a mess in my opinion). I get the sense Corenswet and his co-stars have good chemistry and it seems like the story's a good starting point for a new era (actually going from the trailer some of the story beats don't look far off of what Snyder's films did). That's half the battle won. I don't see any reason to be pessimistic about it.
That's interesting. I really like Raimi's Spiderman films. They have this heightened and sometimes even cartoonish quality to them that works (Dafoe's performance in the first really skirts the line between being theatrical but also legitimately menacing. Same for Molina in the second). I don't think they're the sorts of superhero films we'll ever quite get again, but if there are similarities I'd be happy.
I am onboard for a more comics accurate Superman film from the silver age for sure.
I heard one review last week that allegedly violated the embargo saying it was too cartoony which made me laugh.
Yes it's very odd, luckily I don't think it's crossed over into wide awareness like the poisoning of the well with CraigNotBond and the last Indiana Jones being supposedly too woke or whatever; this little campaign has stayed pretty much in the little Snyder ghettos online.
Do you still think so? I'm not sure I'd call it earnest; it's quite comic-y and tongue in cheek at points I'd say, but not in an undermining way.
Ah okay, might have spoken too soon, although I'm not sure this counts as crossing over into the mainstream :D
Well done for working out Superman is an immigrant guys, only took you 86 years ;)
He saves people who are less advantaged than him too: how woke can he get?
This is why I despite Fox News here in the US.
Ah well, I guess that's the nature of big films nowadays. There'll always be something to complain about before it's released, and often it'll be anti-woke stuff. Keeps people watching. NTTD got a bit of this sort of stuff, as did the First Light trailer. I suspect we'll see it with Bond 26. It's certainly not something that tanks these films in itself though.
Hopefully this crap is tailing off a bit now, although I suppose the big blockbusters this year are looking pretty white. I guess Jurassic managed to have a female star without getting too much woke mud thrown at it, but it's the dinos which are the star of that one.
Bond 26 will absolutely be accused of it though, you're right. Doesn't matter what it is, they'll find something to call woke because it's a meaningless word.