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He does indeed. Out of all my reasons against him as Bond, I’ll say his physicality is actually something in his favour.
I suppose one could also say that Daniel Craig and certainly Sean Connery came off like that too in real life. As you say there’s always a healthy dose of that in the character anyway. For what it’s worth I’ve not seen him being arrogant or full of himself, it’s just a quality people naturally attach to him occasionally… which ironically might be a bigger problem! But still, I suppose that’s even something one could charge that similar quality at Brosnan, so…
I can see why he’d be considered. I think there are better choices but it makes sense.
Lowden would be a much better pick.
Great suggestion mate
I don’t know what it is about Lowden but I’ve gone off him. He’s another good character actor but I think for Bond he just lacks something.
Godzilla Minus One has received overwhelmingly positive reactions; in large part for returning to the roots of the character. Reinventing the wheel is not always needed.
I suppose the truth is EON don’t hire a Bond actor based on how conventional they are. They figure out what qualities they want (both for Bond in general and to a lesser extent this particular interpretation) and they see which actors from their pool perform best and adjust accordingly.
I dunno, I suppose with Suter he’s the kind of actor whose face I struggle to remember even if I’ve seen him in multiple roles. He’s a good looking boy, certainly can do charm, has a good physique, nice voice but…. I dunno, as Bond it doesn’t click for me. He doesn’t quite have something distinct like the blue eyes that Craig or Moore had, or that hint of darkness to his face that Craig, Connery and Dalton did. His charm doesn’t quite have that raw magnetism from what I’ve seen. His physique is good but I can’t say about his physicality as these are different and I don’t have enough to go on. His natural voice onscreen is almost a bit too posh without the intonation or deepness of Moore or Craig, and consequently to me he comes off as more ‘nice but not overly clever’ former public school boy rather than James Bond, and more importantly it’s a vibe I get in some of his performances.
Again, I could be wrong, and he is legit a good actor, but there’s just something that doesn’t quite click in place with him as 007 for me.
Difficult to say. You can’t really see it until you see it in some of these actor’s roles. And it’s subjective.
Hence why I always I and no one else here truly know what we’re talking about with these actors!
Completely agreed.
He's my favourite too, although I do have issues with his voice. If ATJ is chosen, hopefully he can work on it.
Naa. Too blonde. I'm done with a blonde Bond after Craig's reign.
And here I am, reintroducing the hair debacle ;)
(If I was in charge, and if it came down to ATJ and Turner (two guys I don't think will clinch the role), I'd choose Turner 💯% of the time).
Personally, I find ATJ a bit dead behind the eyes. He's lacking in something for me. He's happy go lucky, but not in any way that I admire. He's got a terrific build, but it's not impressing me since Bond has to be more than "a build". His arrogance isn't appealing to me (this is tough to describe, but, I recently watched the Beckham documentary, and I really didn't know much about this guy, other than he was a footballer who was married to Posh, but being Canadian, I'm a hockey fanatic and know little to nothing about football.
But I found Beckham to have a dash of arrogance because of his god-given talent, but highly charismatic and extremely likable. There was this authenticity that I imagine is quite difficult to fake. So Beckham is someone, to me, has this arrogance about him, but at the same time I am drawn to him and curious (and he was instantly likeable)).
I suppose I don't find ATJ authentic in some ways.
I dunno....
But curious @jetsetwilly , because, although Sope has a skin color that is rich in melanin pigments that some find offensive for James Bond, I find his character much more suited to 007 than ATJ. I do find it shocking that this guy is your favorite??
Done. Here are some images of the "Who?" category I posted previous page:
Fabien Frankel:
Paul Mescal:
Jonathan Bailey:
Tom Brittney:
Joey Batey:
Tom Glynn-Carney:
Joe Alwyn:
Callum Turner:
Johnny Flynn:
Callum Woodhouse:
Nicholas Ralph:
Jack Lowden:
Fionn Whitehead:
Leo Suter:
My top three from the "Who?" list:
1. Nicholas Ralph: has the Fleming/Carmichael vibe
2. Fabien Frankel: unique look to other Bonds; optional hair curl; incredibly well-groomed
3. Callum Turner: Does not look like a "modern man," looks vintage and unique, well styled.
My wildcard (from this list): Tom Brittney - looks a bit of a footballer, but also a bit like a dapper soldier.
My strong "please, no"s from the "Who?" list:
x1: Tom Glynn-Carney, who looks like a H*tler youth soldier
x2: Joey Batey, who looks like Calvin Dyson (no offense)
x3: Fionn Whitehead, who will probably always look too young
And finally, Joe Alwyn embarrassed himself with Taylor Swift and looks too generic/American for my tastes (as an American).
For me, he has the perfect duality of a cinematic James Bond. I think he's proven in his work that he's able to perform the more charming and fun elements that would fit with a globe-trotting gentleman spy (Bullet Train, Kick Ass), as well as the darker more serious and weighty elements that come from being a cold-blooded government agent with a licence to kill (Nocturnal Animals, Outlaw King). When it comes to his build, I'm more impressed by what me and @007HallY discussed, his physicality.
As for his arrogance, if it's there it often goes over my head, and like I said before, in my opinion, an air of arrogance can sometimes be quite a natural and indicative thing when it comes to being a "star", given how our relationship with them as an audience works. On a slight tangent, it's why I personally choose to give the benefit of the doubt whenever you hear fans not getting the interactions they want because these aren't usual interactions to have. But anyway, your question was to @jetsetwilly so I'll leave it at that :)
In Nocturnal Animals and films like it, I forget that he’s in these films— and not because he’s so deeply imbedded in the character, but because he was very forgettable (to me).
As for the arrogance, I tried to describe a kind of likeable arrogance (as seen in Beckham), but that Vaniry Fair clip of the backflip felt like “try-hard “ arrogance.
Hes a good looking man, but I fail to see James Bond in this guy.
That’s why I’m interested in jetsetwilly’s feedback; as a Fleming purist, what does he see?
@LucknFate one of the guys growing on me is Callum Turner…. There’s something cheerful and watchable about him. Is he Bond? I don’t know. But the first step is, does the actor have something likeable about them. Callum does…
...and as I said above it’s more important what EON sees in them because they get to see other side that we don’t. But yeah, I’d definitely be up for Callum as well. He also must be quite the charmer cause he went out with Vanessa Kirby for a bit haha ;)
:)) !!!!!!
It's purely on looks alone. These 2 photos from GQ swung it for me -
I haven't seen enough of him in acting roles to decide whether he would be ideal for Bond or not, but purely from a look point of view, I think he has it. I can see a bit of Lazenby in these 2 photos, he fits the literary description, and also appears to have the swagger for the cinematic version too.
I have issues with his voice from what I've heard when he speaks, but if we are focusing on looks alone, he has it. Turner would also be another choice for me too.
If you look back at Connery pre 1962, there isn't much in his early roles that screams Bond in terms of his performances, but he had the look. And I am using this basis for ATJ too.
(Edit) Sadly I've just read that ATJ is 5"10 tall, so this looks to be a no go from me now. A Bond actor needs to ideally be 6ft, 2" tall. Turner is too short as well.
I'm basically wanting a Timothy Dalton MKII.
See, I don’t think that was necessarily the view in 1962 necessarily. Connery was balding even then, he had bushy eyebrows, brown eyes, and paired with his heavy Scottish accent and rather ‘working class’ general impression (which is partly based on his film roles pre-62 too) I don’t think he was a majority’s view of the literary Bond. I guess he was sort of tall, dark and handsome, but certainly not in the ‘English gentleman’ way that I think the common perception was for the character at the time.
If anything actors like Moore or Craig have more directly in common with Fleming’s Bond with their cold blue eyes and ‘cruel’ mouths. But I think it’s a case of looking at the bigger picture with any of these actors.