Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • peterpeter Toronto
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    @LucknFate :

    Amazon/MGM will be the financiers, but EoN are the producers. So to keep the Bond productions neat, the film producers open up a shell company for each film they do (whether Bond, or not).

    When they start spending money on a production it doesn’t come out of EoN proper, but instead, all expenditures are processed through the shell company that EoN owns. These shell companies are active as soon as they start spending…

    I hope that makes sense? Film finance is definitely not my expertise (and is actually the wizardry of accountants (and magic, potions and spells that are cast, 😂! )).
  • RJP's next movie Dungeons & Dragons is getting excellent reviews. Will surely get him Bond buzz as he plays a suave assassin character.
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    Screentest wrote: »
    RJP's next movie Dungeons & Dragons is getting excellent reviews. Will surely get him Bond buzz as he plays a suave assassin character.

    Most definitely. Said this when the trailer was out. He looks like a mysterious character and has the eyes
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    Screentest wrote: »
    RJP's next movie Dungeons & Dragons is getting excellent reviews. Will surely get him Bond buzz as he plays a suave assassin character.

    A D&Dr film getting excellent reviews? The world has changed since 2001.
  • Screentest wrote: »
    RJP's next movie Dungeons & Dragons is getting excellent reviews. Will surely get him Bond buzz as he plays a suave assassin character.

    Most definitely. Said this when the trailer was out. He looks like a mysterious character and has the eyes
    He does have the Dalton crazy eyes :))
  • TuxedoTuxedo Europe
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    Finished my little music demo.

    I like it. The voice is cool, too!
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    Tuxedo wrote: »
    I like it. The voice is cool, too!
    Thanks bro. It's similar to Dan's I think. Probably best I stick to being a magician lol

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    Screentest wrote: »
    Screentest wrote: »
    RJP's next movie Dungeons & Dragons is getting excellent reviews. Will surely get him Bond buzz as he plays a suave assassin character.

    Most definitely. Said this when the trailer was out. He looks like a mysterious character and has the eyes
    He does have the Dalton crazy eyes :))

    One to watch! 31st of March onwards the tables could turn.
  • ImpertinentGoonImpertinentGoon Everybody needs a hobby.
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    peter wrote: »
    @LucknFate :

    Amazon/MGM will be the financiers, but EoN are the producers. So to keep the Bond productions neat, the film producers open up a shell company for each film they do (whether Bond, or not).

    When they start spending money on a production it doesn’t come out of EoN proper, but instead, all expenditures are processed through the shell company that EoN owns. These shell companies are active as soon as they start spending…

    I hope that makes sense? Film finance is definitely not my expertise (and is actually the wizardry of accountants (and magic, potions and spells that are cast, 😂! )).

    And to add some speculation to @peter's excellent factual explanation, I suspect there's currently a lot of internal discussion about the current and future leadership at EON which is why they haven't incorporated the shell as far as we know. In the past, they just registered a "B22 Ltd." years before and then started using it, when they went into development. That they seem to have no shell at all, is unusual. My speculation is that they haven't finished deciding what MGW's level of involvement in the next one will be and accordingly whether to promote someone else to be an officer of this company and so on. They don't incorporate the company, because the officers are public and journalists will immediatly jump on it, if MGW was missing, or one of his sons was included or whatever. So they are in a tussle over this (again, this is purely my speculation). Once that's done, they'll either quietly get the company done if nothing changes or they do a big retirement, handing over the baton thing for MGW and then crack on with the bureaucracy.

    As a little aside - and I hope this isn't seen as doxxing or in bad taste - there is in fact a B26 Ltd. and the owner happens to be called Barbora, but it looks like it has nothing at all to do with EON and Bond... Maybe Eon are currently trying to buy the name off her 😂
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    https://fandomwire.com/10-1b-james-bond-franchise-reportedly-ditching-aaron-taylor-johnson-henry-cavill-still-in-race-for-license-to-kill/

    Is this the same hack who was claiming that ATJ had shot the gun barrel and would be announced in March, 😂…
  • ImpertinentGoonImpertinentGoon Everybody needs a hobby.
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    peter wrote: »
    https://fandomwire.com/10-1b-james-bond-franchise-reportedly-ditching-aaron-taylor-johnson-henry-cavill-still-in-race-for-license-to-kill/

    Is this the same hack who was claiming that ATJ had shot the gun barrel and would be announced in March, 😂…

    How is Kevin Conroy connected to Bond? Did someone get their orphaned legacy franchise characters mixed up?
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
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    peter wrote: »
    https://fandomwire.com/10-1b-james-bond-franchise-reportedly-ditching-aaron-taylor-johnson-henry-cavill-still-in-race-for-license-to-kill/

    Is this the same hack who was claiming that ATJ had shot the gun barrel and would be announced in March, 😂…

    More nonsensical clickbait. Hurray for fandomwire 🎊
  • I'm not saying he's my top candidate, but I'm kind of surprised Henry Golding isn't mentioned more often. He's handsome and charming, and aging well IMO. He even has a lower voice. Granted, he probably would be more of a lighter/humorous/suave/charming Bond as opposed to a DC type.





    And yes, I know some people do not support any non-white actors as Bond. That's fine. We don't have to open that can of worms for the thousandth time, lol.

    I'm just saying I don't think he's as bad of a candidate as some people on here make him out to be. In a recent interview he said he would be a more "mysterious" Bond. So take that for what it's worth...
  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
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    I'm not saying he's my top candidate, but I'm kind of surprised Henry Golding isn't mentioned more often. He's handsome and charming, and aging well IMO. He even has a lower voice. Granted, he probably would be more of a lighter/humorous/suave/charming Bond as opposed to a DC type.





    And yes, I know some people do not support any non-white actors as Bond. That's fine. We don't have to open that can of worms for the thousandth time, lol.

    I'm just saying I don't think he's as bad of a candidate as some people on here make him out to be. In a recent interview he said he would be a more "mysterious" Bond. So take that for what it's worth...
    Yes, I think he’s very good-looking, and even as a traditionalist I think he’s close enough in looks to ‘classic’ Bond that I wouldn’t find him jarring to my image of Bond. First thing I saw him in was A Simple Favor, and I thought he was quite charismatic in a relatively small role and totally saw why he would be getting mentioned for Bond. Unfortunately I also saw that Snake Eyes film, and that probably hasn’t done him any favours. I know he has Assassin Club coming up, that could be a good indicator of his potential. I’m certainly open to him in the role, I’d just like to see him in something where he shines.
  • ImpertinentGoonImpertinentGoon Everybody needs a hobby.
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    I think he's a good candidate on paper, but the acting isn't really there. I've only seen him in a few things and would say he largely gets by on being very handsome and charming and that's about it.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
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    I still can't help thinking that Henry Golding would be a bit too lightweight at this point. Where's the modern equivalent of someone like Jason Isaacs, who carried an innate masculine presence with a depth and a weight to his movements that suggested he'd be the most dangerous man in the room if it all went down? Craig's famous line that 'I have to look like I'm capable of killing someone' still has currency, I feel. I know that others want a change and, as mentioned in the Nolan discussion, BB's already said that they're 'reinventing' Bond for the next run - but Bond having a sense of physical danger about him is something that I wouldn't want to lose. No offence, but I don't see it in Henry.
  • Was Joe Alwyn already suggested here? I discovered him with Ang Lee's 2016 Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk and he was great in it. Since this movie, he starred in various films and series and he seems to be very versatile since it most notably includes a Claire Denis's arthouse movie (Stars at Noon) and a more mainstream romantic comedy (The Last Letter from Your Lover). He's 32 right now, so in the right age if Bond 26 is released around 2025/2026.

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  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
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    Was Joe Alwyn already suggested here? I discovered him with Ang Lee's 2016 Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk and he was great in it. Since this movie, he starred in various films and series and he seems to be very versatile since it most notably includes a Claire Denis's arthouse movie (Stars at Noon) and a more mainstream romantic comedy (The Last Letter from Your Lover). He's 32 right now, so in the right age if Bond 26 is released around 2025/2026.

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    Yeah, he’s been mentioned a bunch of times. Back in 2020 I said:
    I see that the BBC are remaking Brideshead Revisited. That's a high-profile drama, it will be interesting to see who'll be picked for that. One name I see connected to it is Joe Alwyn, who I've not really noticed before (though he was in The Favourite, which I saw last month). He is the right age and height and seems to be getting film work of decent quality. He might be worth keeping an eye on as a possible contender. If he was to get the role I would like to see him dye his hair black, though - he's looking very blonde in the pictures I've seen, and I'd rather 007 stick to dark hair where possible.
    Brideshead Revisited still has yet to arrive - I assume COVID screwed with it’s production, because I can’t see any sign of it being in production.

    I think he’s building the right sort of cv for Eon, I’m sure he’ll be on their radar.
  • QsCatQsCat London
    edited March 2023 Posts: 251
    Was Joe Alwyn already suggested here? I discovered him with Ang Lee's 2016 Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk and he was great in it. Since this movie, he starred in various films and series and he seems to be very versatile since it most notably includes a Claire Denis's arthouse movie (Stars at Noon) and a more mainstream romantic comedy (The Last Letter from Your Lover). He's 32 right now, so in the right age if Bond 26 is released around 2025/2026.

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    Yeah, he’s been mentioned a bunch of times. Back in 2020 I said:
    I see that the BBC are remaking Brideshead Revisited. That's a high-profile drama, it will be interesting to see who'll be picked for that. One name I see connected to it is Joe Alwyn, who I've not really noticed before (though he was in The Favourite, which I saw last month). He is the right age and height and seems to be getting film work of decent quality. He might be worth keeping an eye on as a possible contender. If he was to get the role I would like to see him dye his hair black, though - he's looking very blonde in the pictures I've seen, and I'd rather 007 stick to dark hair where possible.
    Brideshead Revisited still has yet to arrive - I assume COVID screwed with it’s production, because I can’t see any sign of it being in production.

    I think he’s building the right sort of cv for Eon, I’m sure he’ll be on their radar.

    I must say, I think he looks promising! An actual realistic candidate. Brideshead was halted because the director couldn’t get the funding he felt was necessary to bring his vision to life. I really don’t se the need to make another adaptation, when the original TV series was so successful. I can’t imagine it being bettered, regardless of the budget.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
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    Agreed - remakes for the sake of remakes seems completely redundant to me.
  • edited March 2023 Posts: 315
    It crossed my mind... you could argue getting lots of press attention as the next Bond may be detrimental to your mental health!

    For example: Aaron Taylor-Johnson may actually believe he will be the next Bond (let's say he did a positive screentest). Okay... so the producers said "well done, Aaron, we'll let you know" and the media run with it. Meanwhile, the producers haven't picked Johnson. They just thought he had potential. Just a name to keep on the list.

    Johnson spends the next year thinking "I'm the next Bond. When I Google myself I see articles stating I'm going to be cast. I can't wait! Hooray!"

    And then a year or so later Eon announce a different guy is Bond.

    ;))

    And Aaron Taylor-Johnson thinks to himself "I feel a right idiot!"
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    @bondywondy what the heck was that?
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Benny wrote: »
    @bondywondy what the heck was that?

    Plus @bondywondy , to put an audition together it costs quite a bit of money: set, costume, make up, director, sets, schedules to get this small crew together.

    They wouldn’t do this for just one person.

    And there haven’t been auditions yet.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    I'm sure most actors worth their salt wouldn't rely on anything either Google or the tabloid press said about them as regards their being the next James Bond. After all, they've been proven wrong before and they'll be proven wrong again. Just look at the last time. Did Google or the tabloid press predict that Daniel Craig would be the next James Bond? I very much doubt it. I also don't think it's a great idea to joke about mental health issues. They are sadly all too common in our often depersonalised and stressful modern world. You just never know what you'll have to go through in life yourself some day.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    peter wrote: »
    Benny wrote: »
    @bondywondy what the heck was that?

    Plus @bondywondy , to put an audition together it costs quite a bit of money: set, costume, make up, director, sets, schedules to get this small crew together.

    They wouldn’t do this for just one person.

    And there haven’t been auditions yet.

    While watching making of Casino Royale, it was mentioned that several actors were brought in for screen tests ; it seemed like these tests were done during the same timeframe. It would make sense that once the resources are put in place, that a number of actors would be brought in .
  • edited March 2023 Posts: 3,366
    I think the initial 'vetting' process is longer than the actual casting for these types of movies (going from my comparatively limited experience of low budget films). The producers compile a number of names, perhaps meet with a few of them to gauge interest, maybe even check things like availability or whatever. Then the actual auditions are done in a relatively smaller time window (although they clearly do a few scenes over a period of time with call backs etc) and then they consider who they want.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    And how many screen tests did Craig end up doing? I think he said five or six. So for the guy who eventually got the role, it wasn't one-and-done. And it won't be for the new guy.

    It's the most important casting decision in every new era; the audition process, and call-backs (which by union rules, you pay the actor(s) for each recall they do-- so more development money being used), are the only chances that the producers have to see if their top candidates really have the juice, or not. It's a rigorous process (screw this up and you have egg on your face, your tent-pole IP goes down in value, poisonous press, and plenty of finger pointing will ensue).

  • ImpertinentGoonImpertinentGoon Everybody needs a hobby.
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    Oh wow. I didn't know it was five or six. I always thought it was like a day during which you'd go through several scenes. Plus, the aforementioned vetting and conversations and so on.
  • edited March 2023 Posts: 315
    Benny wrote: »
    @bondywondy what the heck was that?

    I'm guessing you're trolling a bit with that reply but I'll take your bait. ;)

    My point is ego can play a part. Some actors are a bit narcissistic/ego driven and want to believe unfounded rumour and hype. That's why Idris Elba made the cringe comment..
    "I’m probably the most famous Bond actor in the world, and I’ve not even played the role."

    His comment was in reference to the media attention about him becoming the next Bond and the first black Bond.

    Okay... he may have been exaggerating when he said he was "the most famous Bond" but I'm sure he enjoyed the media attention. Maybe his ego got the better of him. I got the impression he was actively pushing himself to be Bond. Example:

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    He was using reverse psychology to promote himself. He was pretending to be too unattractive to play the role in the hope of getting attention. He wanted his Twitter followers to say "you look perfect for Bond. Go for it."

    He gets their validation so it becomes a narcissistic desire to play Bond.

    I don't know if Aaron Taylor is narcissistic about wanting Bond. My point was an actor can foolishly believe the unfounded hype (such as Elba) and nothing comes of it. Anyway, some dude in the US called Jeff Sneider says ATJ is not a lock for the part. Not that he is any expert on Bond casting. ;))
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    bondywondy wrote: »
    Benny wrote: »
    @bondywondy what the heck was that?

    I'm guessing you're trolling a bit with that reply but I'll take your bait. ;)

    My point is ego can play a part. Some actors are a bit narcissistic/ego driven and want to believe unfounded rumour and hype. That's why Idris Elba made the cringe comment..
    "I’m probably the most famous Bond actor in the world, and I’ve not even played the role."

    His comment was in reference to the media attention about him becoming the next Bond and the first black Bond.

    Okay... he may have been exaggerating when he said he was "the most famous Bond" but I'm sure he enjoyed the media attention. Maybe his ego got the better of him. I got the impression he was actively pushing himself to be Bond. Example:

    _79951191_twitter.png

    He was using reverse psychology to promote himself. He was pretending to be too unattractive to play the role in the hope of getting attention. He wanted his Twitter followers to say "you look perfect for Bond. Go for it."

    He gets their validation so it becomes a narcissistic desire to play Bond.

    I don't know if Aaron Taylor is narcissistic about wanting Bond. My point was an actor can foolishly believe the unfounded hype (such as Elba) and nothing comes of it. Anyway, some dude in the US called Jeff Sneider says ATJ is not a lock for the part. Not that he is any expert on Bond casting. ;))

    You must be new here, so I'll cut you some slack.
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