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What you do not understand is that no matter how many gun bans you impose, there will always be a way for a criminal to get a gun. The harder you make it, the harder criminals will try to get them. If a person truly is hellbent on bringing harm to someone, they will do anything in their power to do so. Why should we, law abiding, sane, citizens have to give up our freedom to use guns for sport or self defense? You need to understand that criminals will NEVER follow the law no matter what it says. Criminals buy guns with shaved serial numbers in dark alleyways, not Bass Pro Shops.
Did you know that states with conceal carry and open carry have lower crime rates than states without? That is because that scumbag criminal has to think twice about committing a crime, because if he robs that convenience store, he might get his ass killed by that hero wielding that lawfully acquired firearm. That man who defended his life against that criminal also just saved everyone else in that store. One dead criminal is better than a dead, innocent person.
http://www.guns.com/71-year-old-shoots-armed-robbers-9831.html
A hero with a gun will always trump the villain.
I usually try to avoid arguments on here, but your comment compelled me to respond.
RIP, people of Aurora, CO.
TGJB
A crowded movie midnight screening is a "soft" target for these sick individuals.
I do not blame our laughable gun control in this country. If they did not get their hands on certain automatic weapons, they would probably resort to high explosives.
This film needs to be seen. It is a masterpiece.
One definition of insanity is doing the same thing the same way and yet expecting a different result. We've been doing the same things, the same way, and yet we're "shocked" when the result is the same.
Again, 20 mass shootings in this country every year. You can count on it. And yet we're shocked when each one happens? That's like being shocked by the arrival of winter.
If you combine the populations of Great Britain, France, Germany, Japan, Switzerland, Sweden, Denmark and Australia, you'll get a population roughly the size of the United States.
We had 32,000 gun deaths last year. They had 112.
Do you think it's because Americans are more homicidal by nature? Or do you think it's because those guys have gun control laws?
One of the changes in my thinking that has happened as I've gotten older is that I no longer look for simplistic solutions or reasons for complex problems or situations. I was raised in a family that always did that but if it was that easy then we would have eliminated crime and poverty a long time ago.
My father taught me that there was no violence before the "godless hippies" invented it and ruined the world in the late 60s (umm, weren't they all about peace, love, and understanding?) along with drugs and pre-marital sex. Of course, as I got older and learned about history it became embarrassingly obvious that these things have always been around - not just for the last few decades but for thousands of years. So if human nature tends towards violence, the obvious thing to do is to eliminate the aggravating factors or the means to do it.
So - does that mean getting rid of video games or violent movies? No, because violence was around long before that - there were mass shootings and riots back when the Hayes production code was in effect and of course before movies period. Schwartzenegger had one of the best explanations for this that I've ever heard. Some reporter thought he'd do a "gotcha" moment and asked Arnold about how his violent movies inspired real-life violence. Arnold, to his credit, remained calm and pointed out that his movies were shown all over the world and were also extremely successful in markets were murder and violence were extremely low or declining. So obviously there were "other factors" that contributed to violence in the U.S.
And then a friend of mine had an even better observation. He is a HUGE fan of action movies, the more violent the better. But then he is also a very calm, considerate, "new-age sensitive guy". As he pointed out, if violent movies and video games promoted people doing violent things in real life then they were the most inefficient means to do so ever invented. How many thousands of hours of violent movies has he seen yet still remains a non-violent person? How many millions of people go to see a popular action film yet don't shoot people? As I said, I long ago stopped looking for simplistic explanations for complex problems.
If only our "leaders" did the same...
Are you saying that someone has to be pro-guns in order to be a Bond fan ? As a 'fan of a gun wielding hero', I have to applaud the shooting that took place ?
So you have to be a smoker and drinker to enjoy Mad Men ? You have to be pro-guns to like 007 ? you have to be pro-mafia to like Goodfellas ?
A specious argument. Should we legalize rape because some criminals will always rape?
Ban assault weapons and force shooters to reload after a small number of shots. It will save lives.
WTF?? Of course he's a hero. What are you talking about?
Being a fan of action movies or playing video games has no relation whatsoever to committing horrific acts of violence. That's a result of being a diseased sociopath.
And - while I completely agree that gun laws in the US need to be changed (especially the reinstating of the assault rifle ban - ditto what echo says above) and I have great frustration that the gun lobbyists and right wing freaks seem to have won, please don't use this terrible tragedy to bash my country, my state or my city. Yes, it's much more frequent in America, but these kinds of events can happen anywhere, even at a summer camp in Norway for god's sake. Don't fool yourself, none of us are immune from sick individuals.
He's an antihero.
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Bond is definitely a hero IMO
This. On a basic level he is a hero but if the essence of the character is the books. The core of the character is in the novels and he is a cynical flawed man with a couple of neurosis who knows he is being used by "dolts in high places". He is a sybarite who enjoys earthly pleasures to cope with the nasty elements of his job. Bond was never black and white that is what makes him so fascinating and may be why he has survived fitty years.
Back on topic.
I hope this doesnt set a precedent with premieres. I dont want to stand in fear at the next first night on Leicester Square. And I am beginning to get very concerned with what could go wrong with the Olympics.
I, too, am concerned (and have been, not new) about the Olympics. I worry about every Olympics (since Munich; I was in high school then - and I still remember how it felt watching about it on tv - surreal and stunned). I love London and Britain so much and I want this to be a fun, heartfelt, and spectacular Olympics - but especially, no horrific acts of violence at it. In this day and age, I think it is really gutsy for any country to host such a huge event.
Which does not mean that the tragedy is comprehensible especially when you get to know more about the perp, who seems to be the average guy on the block.
Kindly refrain yourself from any Bond discussion in this thread as it is indecent considering the title.
If you want to discus this make a new thread.
Show some respect, please.
Anyway, I think the Olympics will be fine. And I hope this arsehole rots in prison for the rest of his life. RIP to the victims.
Speaking on behalf of the cast and crew of The Dark Knight Rises, I would like to express our profound sorrow at the senseless tragedy that has befallen the entire Aurora community. I would not presume to know anything about the victims of the shooting but that they were there last night to watch a movie. I believe movies are one of the great American art forms and the shared experience of watching a story unfold on screen is an important and joyful pastime. The movie theatre is my home, and the idea that someone would violate that innocent and hopeful place in such an unbearably savage way is devastating to me. Nothing any of us can say could ever adequately express our feelings for the innocent victims of this appalling crime, but our thoughts are with them and their families.
Christian Bale has said:
Words cannot express the horror that I feel. I cannot begin to truly understand the pain and grief of the victims and their loved ones, but my heart goes out to them.