NTTD & Corona

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  • Posts: 453
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Filmmaker Christopher Nolan calls HBO Max the ‘worst streaming service’ and that ‘their decision makes no economic sense’ after WarnerMedia announced that it would send 17 of its films directly to the streaming service in 2021.

    “Some of the biggest filmmakers and most important stars went to bed thinking they were working for a studio and woke to find out they’re working for the worst streaming service. WB had an incredible machine for [releasing movies] and they are dismantling it.” - Christopher Nolan

    Love how he called them a "fledgling" streaming service. I know he was discussing HBO Max, which I suppose is technically new, but HBO have known what they're doing for a long, long time now. Nolan should stop being a baby.

    He's not a baby.
    Warner will lose money on EVERY of the 17 films, if they release them that way.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Jan1985 wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Filmmaker Christopher Nolan calls HBO Max the ‘worst streaming service’ and that ‘their decision makes no economic sense’ after WarnerMedia announced that it would send 17 of its films directly to the streaming service in 2021.

    “Some of the biggest filmmakers and most important stars went to bed thinking they were working for a studio and woke to find out they’re working for the worst streaming service. WB had an incredible machine for [releasing movies] and they are dismantling it.” - Christopher Nolan

    Love how he called them a "fledgling" streaming service. I know he was discussing HBO Max, which I suppose is technically new, but HBO have known what they're doing for a long, long time now. Nolan should stop being a baby.

    He's not a baby.
    Warner will lose money on EVERY of the 17 films, if they release them that way.

    He's a grown man flinging false insults at a company because he doesn't like that they're adapting to the unprecedented times and trying something different. Better to shake things up and experiment with a hybrid model instead of continuing to shelve these films for a day when everything is back to normal, as normal as they can be, which is very unpredictable.
  • Im a huge Nolan fan but i have to say hes beginning to sound like hes not living in the same reality as the rest of us.First,his stubborn refusal to admit that there were problems with Tenets audio mix and now his latest comments.

    Its especially ungrateful considering WB have supported his unique ( But risky ) brand of filmaking with huge budgets and they are the ones who released his latest film in the middle of a pandemic.Get with the times Chris,the world is changing.
  • 2021 Mainstream Film Release Schedule (as of 12/12/20):

    JANUARY 22: Chaos Walking
    FEBRUARY 29: Antlers
    MARCH 12: The King’s Man
    MARCH 12: Raya and the Last Dragon
    MARCH 18 (AUSTRALIA): Peter Rabbit 2: The Runaway
    MARCH 19: Morbius
    APRIL 2: No Time to Die
    APRIL 23: A Quiet Place Part II
    MAY 7: Black Widow
    MAY 21: Godzilla vs. Kong
    MAY 28: Cruella
    MAY 28: Fast & Furious 9
    JUNE 4: The Conjuring: The Devil Made Me Do It
    JUNE 11: Ghostbusters: Afterlife
    JUNE 18: Luca
    JUNE 25: Venom: Let There Be Carnage
    JULY 2: Top Gun: Maverick
    JULY 2: Minions: The Rise of Gru
    JULY 9: Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
    JULY 9: The Forever Purge
    JULY 30: Jungle Cruise
    AUGUST 6: The Suicide Squad
    AUGUST 27: Candyman
    SEPTEMBER 17: Death on the Nile
    OCTOBER 1: Dune
    OCTOBER 15: Halloween Kills
    NOVEMBER 5: Eternals
    NOVEMBER 19: Mission: Impossible 7
    NOVEMBER 24: Encanto
    DECEMBER 10: West Side Story
    DECEMBER 17: Spider-Man Untitled Sequel
    DECEMBER 22: The Matrix 4

  • I’ve got my eye firmly on the success of Wonder Woman 1984. If it does turn how to be a huge success, then I wouldn’t be surprised to see more studios following suit and releasing their films on streaming platforms.

    As far as Chris Nolan’s comments, I can see his reasoning for being upset, but his comments are just incredibly stupid to make considering WB is responsible for his successes as a filmmaker. I’m sure that severs his relationship to AT&T/WB when he trashed their service as being “the worst streaming service ever.”
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    I’ve got my eye firmly on the success of Wonder Woman 1984. If it does turn how to be a huge success, then I wouldn’t be surprised to see more studios following suit and releasing their films on streaming platforms.

    The problem is: no one ever gets to know how successful a movie on a streaming platform is.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython "I want you looking FABULOUS."
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    Jan1985 wrote: »
    I’ve got my eye firmly on the success of Wonder Woman 1984. If it does turn how to be a huge success, then I wouldn’t be surprised to see more studios following suit and releasing their films on streaming platforms.

    The problem is: no one ever gets to know how successful a movie on a streaming platform is.

    The studio will.
  • Jan1985 wrote: »
    I’ve got my eye firmly on the success of Wonder Woman 1984. If it does turn how to be a huge success, then I wouldn’t be surprised to see more studios following suit and releasing their films on streaming platforms.

    The problem is: no one ever gets to know how successful a movie on a streaming platform is.

    What about viewer count, and subscriptions?
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython "I want you looking FABULOUS."
    edited December 2020 Posts: 3,949
    I kinda like that streaming platforms don’t actually have to release view counts for specific movies. It deprives everyone of the kind of dick measuring we see a lot in box office discussions.
  • I kinda like that streaming platforms don’t actually have to release view counts for specific movies. It deprives everyone of the kind of dick measuring we see a lot in box office discussions.

    That’s a very good point. I’ve always hated the “box office = quality” argument. It just doesn’t hold up.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    I kinda like that streaming platforms don’t actually have to release view counts for specific movies. It deprives everyone of the kind of dick measuring we see a lot in box office discussions.

    Also, it seems like viewer count for streaming is a bit of a subjective measurement. Netflix changed their definition from 75% completion as a "view" to just requiring 2 minutes to call it a "view".

    Box Office is of course a bit more objective; you buy a ticket or you don't.
  • Posts: 453
    I kinda like that streaming platforms don’t actually have to release view counts for specific movies. It deprives everyone of the kind of dick measuring we see a lot in box office discussions.

    Also, it seems like viewer count for streaming is a bit of a subjective measurement. Netflix changed their definition from 75% completion as a "view" to just requiring 2 minutes to call it a "view".

    Box Office is of course a bit more objective; you buy a ticket or you don't.

    Correct.
    I presume, that 99% of cinema goers stay till the end of the movie. Not so on Netflix and Co.

    With Warner and HBOMax it's only about subscriptions, I think, because the new movies will be part of the flat-rate without an extra price tag.

    How many new subscribers does HBOMax need to get back the money, that was spend on 17 big $100mio+ films?
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
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    https://deadline.com/2020/12/wonder-woman-1984-china-international-box-office-preview-warner-bros-dc-1234657379/

    So Wonder Woman 1984 is looking for a $60M+ overseas opening... without big markets like Germany, Italy, France and Netherlands...
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
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    Has anyone posted this? Fresh from yesterday.

    MI7 shoot: (Audio) Tom Cruise going ballistic over crew breaking COVID-19 protocols


  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 34,269
    Contraband wrote: »
    Has anyone posted this? Fresh from yesterday.

    MI7 shoot: (Audio) Tom Cruise going ballistic over crew breaking COVID-19 protocols


    It was posted in the M:I thread, doesn't have much use here. He's got a great point, though.
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
    edited December 2020 Posts: 2,591
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Contraband wrote: »
    Has anyone posted this? Fresh from yesterday.

    MI7 shoot: (Audio) Tom Cruise going ballistic over crew breaking COVID-19 protocols


    It was posted in the M:I thread, doesn't have much use here. He's got a great point, though.

    I'm so used to posting in the NTTD threads that I didn't even noticed that the forum had other movie/tv threads.
  • edited December 2020 Posts: 28
    antovolk wrote: »

    Oh joy — supposed this was inevitable, but was hoping it would wait until after NTTD came and gone. Don't really care about what happens next, just want to ensure that this film gets the big theatrical release it was made for. Would be an extreme disappoint if after all this time, I have to watch it on my crappy monitor.

    Hopefully it doesn't end up in the hands of bad apples or the increasingly fewer number of companies in the de facto cartel the entertainment industry operates under.

    Someone someday should write a book on how cursed this film was start to finish.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
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    The possibility of NTTD being released in April feels even more remote now.
  • tqbtqb
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    Saltzman really screwed EON when they sold his rights to MGM. If the franchise ever goes down it's going to be because of the studios side, not EON. I wish they could buy back the other half.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    edited December 2020 Posts: 4,022
    These numbers, plus the recent sale of Bethesda to Microsoft ($7B) make it look like Disney got Star Wars for pennies ($4.05B).

    @matt_u I wouldn't put any money on it coming out in April.
  • 007InAction007InAction Australia
    edited December 2020 Posts: 1,180
    These numbers, plus the recent sale of Bethesda to Microsoft ($7B) make it look like Disney got Star Wars for pennies ($4.05B).

    @matt_u I wouldn't put any money on it coming out in April.
    This guy wouldn't either.....
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  • Really getting sick of this darn virus...
  • edited December 2020 Posts: 741
    Really getting sick of this darn virus...

    Sorry to hear that. Hope you feel better soon and it doesn't get too serious, COVID can be really nasty.

    In all seriousness though, yeah, I'm sure we all agree. COVID needs to go and I hope it doesn't take too much of our normal ways of life with it.
  • Posts: 121
    matt_u wrote: »
    The possibility of NTTD being released in April feels even more remote now.
    Doesn't feel remote at all. Only 3 months to go! Let's gooo!
  • Posts: 453
    Mr_Beach wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    The possibility of NTTD being released in April feels even more remote now.
    Doesn't feel remote at all. Only 3 months to go! Let's gooo!

    It feels remote, because we know, that in April it will only be a 30% capacity with social distancing - while in the fall the vaccine may be available for everyone who wants it. So in October/November a regular release like in pre-Covid-times may be possible.
    And I have the feeling they will go that way, IF they can be sure that from October on everything will be back to normal.
  • It'll be released in April only if they follow the WW84 release model.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython "I want you looking FABULOUS."
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    That’s assuming MGM magically conjures a streaming services.
  • edited December 2020 Posts: 2,921
    looks like we need to brace ourselves once more - this was due out a week before...

    That’s assuming MGM magically conjures a streaming services.

    or lowers their asking price to go to Apple etc!
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