No Time to Die production thread (MINOR SPOILERS ALLOWED)

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  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
    edited June 2020 Posts: 2,591
    matt_u wrote: »
    Contraband wrote: »
    In the last picture it's NTTD stunt coordinator and veteran stuntman Lee Morrison who's holding the child.

    And the location is Arco Magno beach (Spiaggia dell'Arco Magno) with the cave entrance, south of Maratea where they shot Bond and Swann taking a dip

    https://i2.wp.com/www.calabriadascoprire.it/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/grotta-di-giorno.jpg?fit=640,400&ssl=1
    https://i1.wp.com/www.calabriadascoprire.it/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/grottacina.jpg?fit=640,400&ssl=1

    I remember they didn’t film at the Arco Magno because of bad weather...
    antovolk wrote: »
    People do realise this spoiler has been the topic of discussion these past few pages here, and it is a clearly marked spoiler allowed thread! Though the thread title should change to Major Spoilers Allowed...

    Personally I’ve thrown in the spoiler towel well and good with the delay but yeah I’m uneasy with this being picked up as an actual news story following MI6HQ - Radio Times, CinemaBlend, now the Mail... Kinda dickish imo, then again so is the leaking of all these call sheets anyway,

    Correct - the thread title should be changed. This is hardly a minor spoiler. It sounds like the entire driving plot point for Bond in the entire film. That's if it is true, of course.

    Well at this point is 100% true... 5 years old kid with Swann being the mother could mean only one thing.

    It says Acro on the Call Sheet..
  • Junglist_1985Junglist_1985 Los Angeles
    Posts: 252
    This pretty much confirms my belief that the Craig era will serve as the book-ends of the James Bond character. Nearly all Bond films before AND after will theoretically fall somewhere between CR/QOS and NTTD.
  • edited June 2020 Posts: 5,200
    So, another soap opera Bond. Brothergate in one film,
    daddybond
    in another. Right now I'm just going for the aesthetics, the soundtrack, and because it's Daniel's last, with hopefully some cool shots and action pieces. Maybe for the writing. But not for the story itself. I'm tired of character arches like this. Mind you, there'll be plenty to look forward in the film, I'm sure. Too bad that one has to compartmentalise the piece in your head like this. At least since the last one. I'm not condemning the film as I've yet to see it, but the heavily Mi6-team involvement,
    the child
    , the emphasis on other 00s, ... don't bode well for expectations, ...which can be a good thing, now that I think of it. Oh well, we'll see. I'm ready to be surprised.
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
    Posts: 1,669
    Not happy with this news at all. I don’t care how much they want to reinvent the character, Bond should never be a father. Very disappointing. At this point I’ll solely be seeing the film because Craig has been a kick a** Bond. The story keeps sounding more and more ridiculous. First cloning, now Bond having a child. Not my cup of tea at all.
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    I'd gather forget the cloning plot, @DonnyDB5
  • edited June 2020 Posts: 5,200
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    Not happy with this news at all. I don’t care how much they want to reinvent the character, Bond should never be a father. Very disappointing. At this point I’ll solely be seeing the film because Craig has been a kick a** Bond. The story keeps sounding more and more ridiculous. First cloning, now Bond having a child. Not my cup of tea at all.

    Two words: "James" "Suzuki"

    ;)

    But now they had to change the gender, right? Let the woke debate restart. Or not.
  • MurdockMurdock Mr. 2000
    Posts: 16,035
    Die Another Day's plot is suddenly sounding not so bad in light of these new developments. ;)
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
    edited June 2020 Posts: 2,591
    Latest call sheet just posted. Doesn't reveal anything we didn't know already

    https://www.ebay.com/usr/stkni55?_trksid=p2047675.l2559
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    Really must see the film to judge.

    I'm hoping these rumors are false. I've been hoping that for nearly every rumor tied to this film. Luckily the ECLIPSE and GENOME OF A WOMAN rumors did turn out to be false. Maybe this will as well?

    If true, unless the film itself is amazing, it may be my least favorite overall, plot wise.

    I'm trying to think of the Bond films with, IMO, arguably weaker plots that I love
    ..................DAF, TMWTGG, MR, AVTAK, hmm................let's see...........


    Awhile back I saw a Bond podcast speculating that each Bond actor's last film is usually his weakest. Lazenby was the exception to the rule. It's all opinion, of course. I quite like AVTAK and NSNA for instance. However I can understand why many fans feel those films are Moore and Connery's worst. Same with DAD for Pierce.
    Although the trailer for NTTD looked promising, I'm concerned Craig might continue with this time honored tradition.
    Oh well. We'll see for ourselves someday.

    Wouldn't that be funny if NTTD makes DAD look like FRWL, OHMSS or CR, yet actually gives Craig an opening gunbarrel so solid it comes across as the only thing done right in the film?


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    Murdock wrote: »
    Die Another Day's plot is suddenly sounding not so bad in light of these new developments. ;)

    @Murdock -- we have a better Bond (in some opinions), better writers once PWB, CF and Scott Burns took over on NTTD, and certainly a better director in CF (I liked Once Were Warriors, but, in my opinion, it doesn't hold a candle to True Detective, Beasts of No Nation, Jane Eyre, Sin Nombre...).....
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 4,010
    I really don't think anything could be as ridiculous as DAD or woeful as SPECTRE.

    Some will embrace this idea and some won't but the writing will be infinitely better than those 2.
  • Junglist_1985Junglist_1985 Los Angeles
    Posts: 252
    Just a thought — what if the child was created using Bond and Madeline’s DNA via a surrogate mother or some other way - perhaps this is the dangerous new technology? That’s a pretty dark plot...
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    Shardlake wrote: »
    I really don't think anything could be as ridiculous as DAD

    Of course not. Near impossible, that.
    Shardlake wrote: »
    ...or woeful as SPECTRE.

    I don't know... too close, too soon... I really don't know.
  • MurdockMurdock Mr. 2000
    Posts: 16,035
    peter wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    Die Another Day's plot is suddenly sounding not so bad in light of these new developments. ;)

    @Murdock -- we have a better Bond (in some opinions), better writers once PWB, CF and Scott Burns took over on NTTD, and certainly a better director in CF (I liked Once Were Warriors, but, in my opinion, it doesn't hold a candle to True Detective, Beasts of No Nation, Jane Eyre, Sin Nombre...).....

    Ok.
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  • peter wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    Die Another Day's plot is suddenly sounding not so bad in light of these new developments. ;)

    @Murdock -- we have a better Bond (in some opinions), better writers once PWB, CF and Scott Burns took over on NTTD, and certainly a better director in CF (I liked Once Were Warriors, but, in my opinion, it doesn't hold a candle to True Detective, Beasts of No Nation, Jane Eyre, Sin Nombre...).....

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    I get PB is your favourite. I get it. I respect that. I've said time and again, I wish he meant more to me for his characterization of Bond.

    I watched his Goldeneye re-watch and said nothing but positives for the man. Most-- that's most, not all-- things I've said about PB has been complimentary.

    However, I don't buy most of his performances. In most of his films.

    It's just my personal taste @Murdock and @Beast_Daniel_Craig ... No intent to insult.

    P
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
    Posts: 1,756
    The rumors I've heard are interesting. Honestly, this is what I was dreading ever since Daniel was coming back and that Spectre was a continuation. As someone who didn't want Craig to come back, at least we're trying to resolve the wrongs of SP and I hope they make a great film.

    That being said, it seems they decided to knock the dial to 10 instead of scaling things back. This film is either going to be really good or really bad. I hope the former.

    Also, Maddie being a 00 agent suddenly makes a lot of sense (if true). The scene where Bond looks at her at MI6 makes complete sense now.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    edited June 2020 Posts: 4,149
    Remember the hook in the trailers:

    The 25th Film. Will change. Everything.

    Yep.

    I like it.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    edited June 2020 Posts: 4,022
    "I've always accepted death as the likely end to my profession."
    "You have a daughter now, James. You have no time to die anymore."
  • peter wrote: »
    I get PB is your favourite. I get it. I respect that. I've said time and again, I wish he meant more to me for his characterization of Bond.

    I watched his Goldeneye re-watch and said nothing but positives for the man. Most-- that's most, not all-- things I've said about PB has been complimentary.

    However, I don't buy most of his performances. In most of his films.

    It's just my personal taste @Murdock and @Beast_Daniel_Craig ... No intent to insult.

    P

    That's cool, I can understand that and we all have opinions. I don't buy Craig's performance as Jason Bourne either.
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    TripAces wrote: »
    Remember the hook in the trailers:

    The 25th Film. Will change. Everything.

    Yep.

    I like it.

    When Eon try to do something different (like radically different) it never works - going down the CGI/digital route in DAD, brothergate in SP, I was worried when Naomie Harris said that there are things in NTTD that will shock people - that can only go 2 ways -either what they've done that is shocking will be brilliant and a stroke of genius or it will be horrendous. If it's the latter they've really messed up the end of the run of a really good Bond.
  • edited June 2020 Posts: 322
    TripAces wrote: »
    Remember the hook in the trailers:

    The 25th Film. Will change. Everything.

    Yep.

    I like it.

    When Eon try to do something different (like radically different) it never works - going down the CGI/digital route in DAD, brothergate in SP, I was worried when Naomie Harris said that there are things in NTTD that will shock people - that can only go 2 ways -either what they've done that is shocking will be brilliant and a stroke of genius or it will be horrendous. If it's the latter they've really messed up the end of the run of a really good Bond.

    Yeah, it has literally never worked. Like that time they hired that pretty boy Daniel Craig to play James Bond! In a rebooted origin story! What on earth were they thinking? :)


  • GadgetManGadgetMan Nigeria
    edited June 2020 Posts: 3,752
    Based on the new reveals, on paper NTTD is beginning to look worrisome....but at the end of the day, it's all about execution....and Boy! The Bond franchise is in need of all its wit than ever. Coz at the moment, a lot of fans won't buy these ideas....The execution has to be extra, extra, extra, extra, extra, extra, extra, Top-notch, to stand a chance of being accepted by fans & of course, Critics.
  • Garth007Garth007 Missouri, USA
    Posts: 50
    Honestly I really like the idea of this. This film seems to be doing alot of new things (too much can be debatable after film is out) but I open to this stuff along with what spoilers are out there especially the ending.
    I really love the idea of bond having a daughter and possibly dying at the end it really does add more to the ling of it will be the death of you. It would be cool if as she is telling the story to their daughter bonds shadow appears in front of them and she smiles ques bond theme.
  • phantomvicesphantomvices Mother Base
    Posts: 297
    Garth007 wrote: »
    Honestly I really like the idea of this. This film seems to be doing alot of new things (too much can be debatable after film is out) but I open to this stuff along with what spoilers are out there especially the ending.
    I really love the idea of bond having a daughter and possibly dying at the end it really does add more to the ling of it will be the death of you. It would be cool if as she is telling the story to their daughter bonds shadow appears in front of them and she smiles ques bond theme.

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    Re: the latest spoilers and report from Daily Mail, I'm not surprised they have channelled elements and ideas from the novel, YOLT. I'm all for it.
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    I thought about this rumor for a long while. Here are my two cents (spoiler-tagged just in case):
    Depending on the execution, this could be one of the best or worst things to bring to a Bond film. Potentially, it could be one of the most fascinating and dramatic elements in a Bond film ever. Involving a child/children in a major way in action films is kind of an iffy thing for me, but there with the right direction, this could be something really interesting and special. Bond having a child is still in Fleming territory, as we know from the end of the YOLT novel. Bond has spent his life having a LOT of sex, and for the first time he could face a serious consequence of that lifestyle. I can't help but find that intriguing.

    I hope they do this right and it isn't the only YOLT novel element to make it. I'm hoping they also tackle the amnesiac Bond + suspected death to everyone else, but the audience knows he lives. I'd also love to see Bond strangle Safin to death the way he offs Blofeld in the YOLT novel. It would be very dramatic, gritty, and feel so full circle with Bond's first kill in CR. It's so unfortunate we have to keep waiting so long for NTTD, but my interest and hype remains!
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Posts: 3,157
    peter wrote: »
    Walecs wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    antovolk wrote: »
    People do realise this spoiler has been the topic of discussion these past few pages here, and it is a clearly marked spoiler allowed thread! Though the thread title should change to Major Spoilers Allowed...

    Personally I’ve thrown in the spoiler towel well and good with the delay but yeah I’m uneasy with this being picked up as an actual news story following MI6HQ - Radio Times, CinemaBlend, now the Mail... Kinda dickish imo, then again so is the leaking of all these call sheets anyway,

    Agreed-- topic of discussion is one thing on a fan forum. But the selling of the call sheets and this article is abhorrent. The people involved are in direct violation of their NDA.

    I hope EoN sues their asses. I'm more than uneasy with this--

    It's creepy.

    It stinks of greed.

    And it truly is handicapping a film months before it comes out. This IS the big reveal. This IS the
    "when her secret gets out, it will be the death of you"
    .

    It's disgusting.

    Why would
    having a child be his death, though? Isn't that a positive thing?

    @Walecs --
    if your child was endangered, as obviously this child will be-- you will do everything to save that child, including sacrificing yourself.
    I know the feeling well as all parents do.
    I see, so that means their daughter has been kidnapped. Makes sense.
  • Posts: 154
    Why is Bond in Jamaica, are they already seperated?!
  • Posts: 2,361
    TripAces wrote: »
    Remember the hook in the trailers:

    The 25th Film. Will change. Everything.

    Yep.

    I like it.

    When Eon try to do something different (like radically different) it never works - going down the CGI/digital route in DAD, brothergate in SP, I was worried when Naomie Harris said that there are things in NTTD that will shock people - that can only go 2 ways -either what they've done that is shocking will be brilliant and a stroke of genius or it will be horrendous. If it's the latter they've really messed up the end of the run of a really good Bond.

    Yeah, it has literally never worked. Like that time they hired that pretty boy Daniel Craig to play James Bond! In a rebooted origin story! What on earth were they thinking? :)


    I was thinking more of writing and plotting - casting Craig was a stroke of genius, unfortunately some of the writing hasn't been that good (some has) which has but a damper of his excellent run as Bond.
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