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  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited March 2020 Posts: 5,869
    Other studios have more properties they can rely on tbh. This the biggest property MGM and EON have, so to release the film in April and suffer such a big loss at the box office, while causing backlash with the film's contents, would be very ill advised, especially for Craig's last film.
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
    edited March 2020 Posts: 3,126
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Other studios have more properties they can rely on tbh. This the biggest property MGM and EON have, so to release the film in April and suffer such a big loss at the box office, while causing backlash with the film's contents, would be ill advised.

    Yep that's why I say they have to play it safe now they have no choice now they burned all their get out of jail free cards. Now they have to do this to make just a profit.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,026
    FoxRox wrote: »
    The whole situation is quite aggravating. Other movies are still coming out for other fans, and this is far from the first problem Bond 25 has encountered. If there hadn’t already been MULTIPLE delays and setbacks, this would be a little easier to swallow. November isn’t even nearly a guarantee either - just the newest date in a potentially still-growing list.

    Uhmhmm. The frustration is understandable at this stage. But again, I think it's important to wait and see how those films do in the coming months. I am sure that the optics of another delay was taken into account, so the fact that they pushed it back anyway says a lot.

    Speaking generally - not just in terms of NTTD - I think we'll be fine by November. I'm not a betting man, but I am hopeful the virus thing will be sorted within the next four months.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    Posts: 5,869
    007Blofeld wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Other studios have more properties they can rely on tbh. This the biggest property MGM and EON have, so to release the film in April and suffer such a big loss at the box office, while causing backlash with the film's contents, would be ill advised.

    Yep that's why I say they have to play it safe now they have no choice now they burned all their get out of jail free cards. Now they have to do this to make just a profit.
    I don't really understand what you mean though? The film's done. As other people have mentioned, the only thing that's gonna change by November is some new bits of marketing, maybe one final edit which won't change much and maybe some music changes but nothing drastic that'll effect characters or story.
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
    Posts: 3,497
    CraigMooreOHMSS wrote: »
    FoxRox wrote: »
    The whole situation is quite aggravating. Other movies are still coming out for other fans, and this is far from the first problem Bond 25 has encountered. If there hadn’t already been MULTIPLE delays and setbacks, this would be a little easier to swallow. November isn’t even nearly a guarantee either - just the newest date in a potentially still-growing list.

    Uhmhmm. The frustration is understandable at this stage. But again, I think it's important to wait and see how those films do in the coming months. I am sure that the optics of another delay was taken into account, so the fact that they pushed it back anyway says a lot.

    Speaking generally - not just in terms of NTTD - I think we'll be fine by November. I'm not a betting man, but I am hopeful the virus thing will be sorted within the next four months.

    A voice of reason. ^:)^
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,026
    007Blofeld wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Other studios have more properties they can rely on tbh. This the biggest property MGM and EON have, so to release the film in April and suffer such a big loss at the box office, while causing backlash with the film's contents, would be ill advised.

    Yep that's why I say they have to play it safe now they have no choice now they burned all their get out of jail free cards. Now they have to do this to make just a profit.

    110% incorrect.
  • Ottofuse8Ottofuse8
    Posts: 832
    Gonna say my confidence that they stick to the November date is relatively low. Don't think I can be blamed.
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
    Posts: 12,258
    CraigMooreOHMSS wrote: »
    FoxRox wrote: »
    The whole situation is quite aggravating. Other movies are still coming out for other fans, and this is far from the first problem Bond 25 has encountered. If there hadn’t already been MULTIPLE delays and setbacks, this would be a little easier to swallow. November isn’t even nearly a guarantee either - just the newest date in a potentially still-growing list.

    Uhmhmm. The frustration is understandable at this stage. But again, I think it's important to wait and see how those films do in the coming months. I am sure that the optics of another delay was taken into account, so the fact that they pushed it back anyway says a lot.

    Speaking generally - not just in terms of NTTD - I think we'll be fine by November. I'm not a betting man, but I am hopeful the virus thing will be sorted within the next four months.

    Obviously I hope the virus clears up as soon as possible too. But given the uncertainty and also the possibility that anything else can happen, I’m not counting on the film releasing in November. Been burned too many times haha. Call it “The Danny Boyle Curse?”
  • Ottofuse8Ottofuse8
    Posts: 832
    FoxRox wrote: »
    CraigMooreOHMSS wrote: »
    FoxRox wrote: »
    The whole situation is quite aggravating. Other movies are still coming out for other fans, and this is far from the first problem Bond 25 has encountered. If there hadn’t already been MULTIPLE delays and setbacks, this would be a little easier to swallow. November isn’t even nearly a guarantee either - just the newest date in a potentially still-growing list.

    Uhmhmm. The frustration is understandable at this stage. But again, I think it's important to wait and see how those films do in the coming months. I am sure that the optics of another delay was taken into account, so the fact that they pushed it back anyway says a lot.

    Speaking generally - not just in terms of NTTD - I think we'll be fine by November. I'm not a betting man, but I am hopeful the virus thing will be sorted within the next four months.

    Obviously I hope the virus clears up as soon as possible too. But given the uncertainty and also the possibility that anything else can happen, I’m not counting on the film releasing in November. Been burned too many times haha. Call it “The Danny Boyle Curse?”

    Exactly.
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
    Posts: 12,258
    Ottofuse8 wrote: »
    Gonna say my confidence that they stick to the November date is relatively low. Don't think I can be blamed.

    I feel for you. After everything this film has been through how can we be expected to have faith in any set release date anymore?
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    Posts: 5,869
    We just have to stay positive and hope this virus can be dealt with.
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
    edited March 2020 Posts: 3,126
    Denbigh wrote: »
    007Blofeld wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Other studios have more properties they can rely on tbh. This the biggest property MGM and EON have, so to release the film in April and suffer such a big loss at the box office, while causing backlash with the film's contents, would be ill advised.

    Yep that's why I say they have to play it safe now they have no choice now they burned all their get out of jail free cards. Now they have to do this to make just a profit.
    I don't really understand what you mean though? The film's done. As other people have mentioned, the only thing that's gonna change by November is some new bits of marketing, maybe one final edit which won't change much and maybe some music changes but nothing drastic that'll effect characters or story.

    I mean they painted themselves in such a corner they can't risk anything even if it came out in April people could have claimed back when they did push it to April only because of box office and it turns out it wasn't we simply don't know what is going on behind the scenes. But it seems strange why they would wait so long I know it's a bad virus and the film is done but that doesn't mean they are totally satisfied and can't change who knows what they will change or won't we know nothing at this point. We will only know the final product and after the film is out.
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
    Posts: 3,497
    007Blofeld wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    007Blofeld wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Other studios have more properties they can rely on tbh. This the biggest property MGM and EON have, so to release the film in April and suffer such a big loss at the box office, while causing backlash with the film's contents, would be ill advised.

    Yep that's why I say they have to play it safe now they have no choice now they burned all their get out of jail free cards. Now they have to do this to make just a profit.
    I don't really understand what you mean though? The film's done. As other people have mentioned, the only thing that's gonna change by November is some new bits of marketing, maybe one final edit which won't change much and maybe some music changes but nothing drastic that'll effect characters or story.

    I mean they painted themselves in such a corner they can't risk anything even if it came out in April people could have claimed back when they did push it to April only because of box office and it turns out it wasn't we simply don't know what is going on behind the scenes. But it seems strange why they would wait so long I know it's a bad virus and the film is done but that doesn't mean they are totally satisfied who knows what they will change or won't we know nothing at this point. We will only know the final product and after the film is out.

    The worst part of it all is that the endless tampon is dr no speculation will now continue for more than 7 months.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    edited March 2020 Posts: 8,026
    FoxRox wrote: »
    CraigMooreOHMSS wrote: »
    FoxRox wrote: »
    The whole situation is quite aggravating. Other movies are still coming out for other fans, and this is far from the first problem Bond 25 has encountered. If there hadn’t already been MULTIPLE delays and setbacks, this would be a little easier to swallow. November isn’t even nearly a guarantee either - just the newest date in a potentially still-growing list.

    Uhmhmm. The frustration is understandable at this stage. But again, I think it's important to wait and see how those films do in the coming months. I am sure that the optics of another delay was taken into account, so the fact that they pushed it back anyway says a lot.

    Speaking generally - not just in terms of NTTD - I think we'll be fine by November. I'm not a betting man, but I am hopeful the virus thing will be sorted within the next four months.

    Obviously I hope the virus clears up as soon as possible too. But given the uncertainty and also the possibility that anything else can happen, I’m not counting on the film releasing in November. Been burned too many times haha. Call it “The Danny Boyle Curse?”

    Don't worry, I get it! As I said, it's very understandable. The wind was really taken out of my sails yesterday too. A friend of mine that I hadn't seen in a long time came to visit me, and we spent an hour talking about NTTD (we watched that most recent TV spot). I was feeling giddy with excitement; the new Bond was only a month away!

    Then, an hour later, well.....this happened.

    It's one of those things that just can't be anticipated.
    JamesCraig wrote: »
    007Blofeld wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    007Blofeld wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Other studios have more properties they can rely on tbh. This the biggest property MGM and EON have, so to release the film in April and suffer such a big loss at the box office, while causing backlash with the film's contents, would be ill advised.

    Yep that's why I say they have to play it safe now they have no choice now they burned all their get out of jail free cards. Now they have to do this to make just a profit.
    I don't really understand what you mean though? The film's done. As other people have mentioned, the only thing that's gonna change by November is some new bits of marketing, maybe one final edit which won't change much and maybe some music changes but nothing drastic that'll effect characters or story.

    I mean they painted themselves in such a corner they can't risk anything even if it came out in April people could have claimed back when they did push it to April only because of box office and it turns out it wasn't we simply don't know what is going on behind the scenes. But it seems strange why they would wait so long I know it's a bad virus and the film is done but that doesn't mean they are totally satisfied who knows what they will change or won't we know nothing at this point. We will only know the final product and after the film is out.

    The worst part of it all is that the endless tampon is dr no speculation will now continue for more than 7 months.

    Yay.

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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 14,930
    What's this tampon thing? I missed that.
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
    Posts: 12,258
    Denbigh wrote: »
    We just have to stay positive and hope this virus can be dealt with.

    What can I say - I’m a cynic and am basing my feelings off the unfortunate pattern this film has seen. I also hope the virus is dealt with and as soon as possible. I would honestly have felt slightly better if they just announced the film was delayed indefinitely at this point, so that we’re not bound to yet another potential release date change.
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
    Posts: 3,497
    CraigMooreOHMSS wrote: »
    FoxRox wrote: »
    CraigMooreOHMSS wrote: »
    FoxRox wrote: »
    The whole situation is quite aggravating. Other movies are still coming out for other fans, and this is far from the first problem Bond 25 has encountered. If there hadn’t already been MULTIPLE delays and setbacks, this would be a little easier to swallow. November isn’t even nearly a guarantee either - just the newest date in a potentially still-growing list.

    Uhmhmm. The frustration is understandable at this stage. But again, I think it's important to wait and see how those films do in the coming months. I am sure that the optics of another delay was taken into account, so the fact that they pushed it back anyway says a lot.

    Speaking generally - not just in terms of NTTD - I think we'll be fine by November. I'm not a betting man, but I am hopeful the virus thing will be sorted within the next four months.

    Obviously I hope the virus clears up as soon as possible too. But given the uncertainty and also the possibility that anything else can happen, I’m not counting on the film releasing in November. Been burned too many times haha. Call it “The Danny Boyle Curse?”

    Don't worry, I get it! As I said, it's very understandable. The wind was really taken out of my sails yesterday too. A friend of mine that I hadn't seen in a long time came to visit me, and we spent an hour talking about NTTD (we watched that most recent TV spot). I was feeling giddy with excitement; the new Bond was only a month away!

    Then, an hour later, well.....this happened.

    It's one of those things that just can't be anticipated.
    JamesCraig wrote: »
    007Blofeld wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    007Blofeld wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Other studios have more properties they can rely on tbh. This the biggest property MGM and EON have, so to release the film in April and suffer such a big loss at the box office, while causing backlash with the film's contents, would be ill advised.

    Yep that's why I say they have to play it safe now they have no choice now they burned all their get out of jail free cards. Now they have to do this to make just a profit.
    I don't really understand what you mean though? The film's done. As other people have mentioned, the only thing that's gonna change by November is some new bits of marketing, maybe one final edit which won't change much and maybe some music changes but nothing drastic that'll effect characters or story.

    I mean they painted themselves in such a corner they can't risk anything even if it came out in April people could have claimed back when they did push it to April only because of box office and it turns out it wasn't we simply don't know what is going on behind the scenes. But it seems strange why they would wait so long I know it's a bad virus and the film is done but that doesn't mean they are totally satisfied who knows what they will change or won't we know nothing at this point. We will only know the final product and after the film is out.

    The worst part of it all is that the endless tampon is dr no speculation will now continue for more than 7 months.

    Yay.

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  • GatecrasherGatecrasher Classified
    Posts: 265
    I took last night to sleep on this crushing news. And as optimistic and “look for the silver lining” as I was trying to be yesterday, I have this sinking feeling about the whole thing. In my view, it could go in either one of two directions: no release in November, which maybe then the decision will be to release the film on streaming platforms (unprecedented, but hey, it is what it is). Or two, NTTD will come to theaters by next year once the pandemic and all the rightful hysteria around it dissipates.

    Damn. Damn, damn, damn...
  • ThunderballThunderball playing Chemin de Fer in a casino, downing Vespers
    Posts: 776
    I was really looking forward to doing a full Bondathon in order leading up to seeing NTTD. I'll still do that but that means I'm going to have to refrain from watching any Bond movies until November for the full effect. Oh well.
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
    Posts: 12,258
    I was just thinking, the cherry on top of all of this would be if after all this awful waiting, whenever the film does actually come out (I’m betting not this year), it ends up being terrible :))
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
    Posts: 1,755
    mtm wrote: »
    What's this tampon thing? I missed that.

    I too would like to know.
  • ertertertert
    edited March 2020 Posts: 490
    Gatecrasher wrote: »
    I took last night to sleep on this crushing news. And as optimistic and “look for the silver lining” as I was trying to be yesterday, I have this sinking feeling about the whole thing. In my view, it could go in either one of two directions: no release in November, which maybe then the decision will be to release the film on streaming platforms (unprecedented, but hey, it is what it is). Or two, NTTD will come to theaters by next year once the pandemic and all the rightful hysteria around it dissipates.

    Damn. Damn, damn, damn...

    Agreed. There is ZERO evidence the virus will be gone in November or that theaters in Asia/elsewhere will be open. The outbreak gets worse by the day. They should consider just releasing it on streaming at this point. This virus isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

    I would much rather watch it on streaming than have to wait until 2021 or further til the outbreak goes away. At that point I would think the future of the franchise was in serious jeopardy given that they probably won't even begin looking for DC's replacement until well after NTTD.
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
    Posts: 1,755
    NTTD released on streaming services???? Can’t see it happening.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,026
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    What's this tampon thing? I missed that.

    I too would like to know.

    Lynch spoke in The Hollywood Reporter about making Nomi feeling like a relatable woman, with questions about her appearance and making her a bit insecure. She then mentioned talking to Fukanaga about her character possibly being on her period in one scene.
  • ertertertert
    Posts: 490
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    NTTD released on streaming services???? Can’t see it happening.

    If the virus/economic outlook isn't better by November, which by every indication it will not be...what other options would they have? Delay until 2021-2022?
  • BurgessBurgess
    Posts: 309
    007Blofeld wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Other studios have more properties they can rely on tbh. This the biggest property MGM and EON have, so to release the film in April and suffer such a big loss at the box office, while causing backlash with the film's contents, would be ill advised.

    Yep that's why I say they have to play it safe now they have no choice now they burned all their get out of jail free cards. Now they have to do this to make just a profit.

    What get out of jail free cards are you talking about?

  • BurgessBurgess
    Posts: 309
    007Blofeld wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    007Blofeld wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Other studios have more properties they can rely on tbh. This the biggest property MGM and EON have, so to release the film in April and suffer such a big loss at the box office, while causing backlash with the film's contents, would be ill advised.

    Yep that's why I say they have to play it safe now they have no choice now they burned all their get out of jail free cards. Now they have to do this to make just a profit.
    I don't really understand what you mean though? The film's done. As other people have mentioned, the only thing that's gonna change by November is some new bits of marketing, maybe one final edit which won't change much and maybe some music changes but nothing drastic that'll effect characters or story.

    I mean they painted themselves in such a corner they can't risk anything even if it came out in April people could have claimed back when they did push it to April only because of box office and it turns out it wasn't we simply don't know what is going on behind the scenes. But it seems strange why they would wait so long I know it's a bad virus and the film is done but that doesn't mean they are totally satisfied and can't change who knows what they will change or won't we know nothing at this point. We will only know the final product and after the film is out.

    What?

  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 8,484
    DeerAtTheGates wrote: »
    New article from the Hollywood Reporter.
    Currently NTTD is the only film to move. Disney, Universal (for F9) and Paramount are sticking to their release dates for now. Craig has reportedly told EON and MGM he will keep his agenda free to promote the movie in November.

    https://hollywoodreporter.com/news/no-time-die-moves-but-hollywood-tentpoles-staying-put-1282395

    But, but, but , Craig only does things for money!
  • BurgessBurgess
    Posts: 309
    ertert wrote: »
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    NTTD released on streaming services???? Can’t see it happening.

    If the virus/economic outlook isn't better by November, which by every indication it will not be...what other options would they have? Delay until 2021-2022?

    Well, it ain’t good now so I rather the film have a fighting chance in November than a predictable loss in April.

  • ZekidkZekidk
    Posts: 3,167
    ertert wrote: »
    The outbreak gets worse by the day.
    No, it most certainly doesn't. Daily new cases in early February were around 3000. Daily new cases the last couple of weeks are around 2000. Meanwhile more and more are recovering. The last five days alone almost 10.000 have recovered.

    Stop feeding the hysteria!
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