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Plus it had the balls to try something completely different. I might not have enjoyed it at the time because I was pining for something more horror/creature-driven, but I've appreciated it more and more over the years. 'Covenant' is one I'll likely never rewatch.
"It was just so pedestrian" is a perfect description of it.
Prometheus looked great but was a mess from a storytelling, editing, and character development standpoint. Covenant was slightly less of a mess in these regards, but still a mess and at the end of the day little more than a B horror flick. It's shocking that either of these were the directorial work of Ridley Scott.
I hope they reassess completely and do away with all this prequel "leading-up-to-the-backend-of-Alien" nonsense. Just give us straight sequels in the Alien universe by fresh visionary directors that exemplify the best of horror or action or horror/action. Throw in Sigourney Weaver if you want to. I don't care so long as it feels like it belongs to the original tetralogy.
Especially when you consider that this is the same person who delivered 'Alien' all those decades ago. I know it's improbable for a director to retain that level of magic over a near-40 year period, but still.
Exactly! I mean, I know the original Alien had a fantastic screenplay and that's always important to start with, but beyond that Scott was a visual and atmospheric artist who could create sci-fi worlds that felt lived in, authentic, fully immersive, and make use of them in a cohesive film experience that rivets the audience to their seat. I don't know what it is—the changing landscape of filmmaking, technological advances like CGI or whatnot—whatever it is, Ridley's lost that touch.
Whereas mine were rolling throughout a majority of the film.
Mine were wandering to the ceiling to count the ceiling tiles while waiting for something to start happening. It did. Eventually. But the film was almost over by then.
Now this would get my ass to pay for another 'Alien' ticket. He's a pretty so-so director to me, but the return of Weaver and Biehn would make me very happy. Sounds like a lot of love would've went into that movie.
Hey, Ellen Ridley is the hero, :D
It can't hurt, unless they choose to throw another $100 million at Scott for another installment, but given how poorly 'Covenant' did at the box office in comparison to 'Prometheus,' that's seeming unlikely. At most, he'll likely get one more under his belt, but even that would be a bit unexpected.
He's changed his mind endlessly, but as it stands, I think he envisioned one to three sequels, including 'Alien: Awakening.'
Blomkamp would deliver as effects supervisor, but not as director.
After Covenant, I've got almost no hope for the rest of the series, if it stretches past one more film.
But then COVENANT was released. And it was called ALIEN. So naturally I was thrilled. Sadly I could not have predicted that Scott would entirely abandon Shaw, toss her aside like the paper wrapping of a candy bar, and enter the obscure micro-story of David, the dark android, going philosophical and philosophically bad. Presenting our beloved xenomorph as nothing more than David's little science experiment, Scott reduced one of the most powerful fictional and metaphorical antagonists in cinema history to an undercooked bit of casual genetic engineering conducted by a robot who wanted to be Peter O'Toole. While some of the horror scenes in COVENTANT are impressive enough, there's very little that we haven't yet seen before, like the dramatic evacuation of a beast from an open air lock in space. There's also something really uninteresting about David's story, for I am still more intrigued about what will happen to Ripley and Jones when they commit themselves to the voids of space in their escape shuttle, than I am to David's deception and his batch of infected organisms now stowed away amidst a crew in hypersleep.
COVENANT feels like an elder man's thesis on life and death and the existential fears one may suffer when coming ever closer to the ultimate experience of one's mortality. In truth though, all we really want is some stalker horror with a nearly invincible enemy in the lead role. Symbols and metaphors need not be injected with force, nor do we need scene after scene of heavy dialogue contemplating the mysteries of life. Scott is making a terrible mistake by using a series that continued his epic hit from '79 as a canvas on which to explore something quite different that must have been stuck in his head for several years now. What he's doing is the equivalent of taking the James Bond series in a direction nobody wants, say with Bond visiting a PTS therapist every day, having become a farmer, fighting a battle with some homeless people who threaten to steal his grapes, and praying to god before going to bed, asking forgiveness for the lives he's taken.
There are still things to like about COVENANT. It's a dark and at times gory film, but the context and tone are needlessly complicated and out-of-touch with the Nostromo / LV-426 adventures we so dearly love. Comics, video games and fan films almost always try to capture the spirit of ALIENS anyway; it is by far still the most popular of the films in this series. Scott is probably too proud to take us back to Cameron's hit, but seeing how much more I enjoy playing the mediocre ALIENS: COLONIAL MARINES game than I do watching ALIEN: COVENANT, I wonder if Scott can ever, at all, entertain me with another of his Alien films. The first one was a unique masterpiece, and it led to things that broadened the scope yet remained respectful of that first film. And that's my problem with both PROMETHEUS and COVENANT: they feel as if Scott wants to take a dump on ALIEN and overwrite it with a philosophical essay nobody wants.
Scott needs to man up and give the series to Neill Blomkamp
Someone on here said Scott was always mad that Camerons movie was always praised more than his hence why he took the entire franchise back.
Alien is one of my favourite films of all time, I like Aliens and slightly prefer Alien 3 to it, 4 is tolerable.
I'm not a fan of Prometheus but acknowledge that it tried to do something different. From the breakdown in the honest trailer I can honestly say that I was horrified at what I saw not only did I see sequences that looked like they were retreading both Alien & Aliens but also I saw what looked like retro fitting and demystifying of the original film I hold so dear.
Ridley just seems hell bent on ruining the leagcy of the series and with this proposed 3rd film I have to wonder if he's not a verge of loosing his marbles. A friend of mine likened Covenant to DaVinci urinating on the Mona Lisa.
So glad he was only on producing duties for BR 2049 because if he was directing it I can only imagine what a mess we'd being seeing this month.
I think we're led to believe that David somehow "built" them from ooze or whatever. Like making pots out of clay and lightening them to life or something. It's just bad.