Sam Mendes to direct Bond 24?

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  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
    edited March 2013 Posts: 4,399
    Perhaps Barbara and Michael can already opt for Christopher Nolan, offering him Bond 24, and then wait for a fall 2016 premiere? In the meanwhile he can work for 'Interstellar'. What do you think?

    No... do you know how much work goes into preproduction of a film?.. its a hard enough job working on one, but 2 at relatively the same?? - not to mention shooting them both close to around the same time as well??... thats an impossible feat.

    give up on Nolan.. it's not happening.

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    HASEROT wrote:
    Perhaps Barbara and Michael can already opt for Christopher Nolan, offering him Bond 24, and then wait for a fall 2016 premiere? In the meanwhile he can work for 'Interstellar'. What do you think?

    No... do you know how much work goes into preproduction of a film?.. its a hard enough job working on one, but 2 at relatively the same?? - not to mention shooting them both close to around the same time as well??... thats an impossible feat.

    give up on Nolan.. it's not happening.

    I meant not two movies at the same time. If that means a longer wait, for example spring 2017 premiere? I don't mind....
  • edited March 2013 Posts: 2,081
    Tuulia wrote:
    The screenplay of 'Skyfall' was tailored around actor Javier Bardem. With him in mind they wrote the screenplay. It worked, Javier wanted to join ---

    Are you sure? I don't remember seeing that mentioned anywhere except here by you. They wrote the character for him, yes (and then later with him), but the whole thing tailored around him? Surely not. That sounds crazy and risky - how can you write it all around an actor who'd only have a supporting role anyway, and that you don't yet have signed on? If he says no you'd need to write a whole new script, and waste lots of time and money.

    Yes, it is mentioned in this fantastic Bond encyclopedia. The crew confirmed it in the chapter about 'Skyfall'

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    Ok, thanks, but I'm still a bit suspicious of that source. Not having read it I can't comment on the contents, but how come none of that came out in the interviews - I've seen and read tons and have never come across a single mention by anyone involved (actors, producers, writers, etc.) - plus it still makes no sense whatsoever to me to do a script like that. ;)

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    WHAAAAT? A spring 2017 premiere? For Bond24? You wouldn't mind? I would mind a hell of a lot!

  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
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    HASEROT wrote:
    Perhaps Barbara and Michael can already opt for Christopher Nolan, offering him Bond 24, and then wait for a fall 2016 premiere? In the meanwhile he can work for 'Interstellar'. What do you think?

    No... do you know how much work goes into preproduction of a film?.. its a hard enough job working on one, but 2 at relatively the same?? - not to mention shooting them both close to around the same time as well??... thats an impossible feat.

    give up on Nolan.. it's not happening.

    I meant not two movies at the same time. If that means a longer wait, for example spring 2017 premiere? I don't mind....

    you would be perfectly fine waiting another 5 years for the next Bond film??

    i dare say, you are in a very very small minority there.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    What a shame, but yes, perhaps they can move on now and get to starting the film up even more.
  • edited March 2013 Posts: 1,021
    This is terrible news!...I was hoping for Sam Mendes to return. Hopefully he will come back and maybe direct Bond 25. Since I received SF on BluRay I have watched it a number of times (including all the commenteries)(plus on BluRay it was the first time I saw it finally in English). The film is an instant classic. It has now become my all time favourite Bond film. Overtaking OHMSS. The film is wonderfully directed and really moves at a cracking pace.A stunning villain and great action and drama. It is much better paced than CR for example. The next director has a really tough job ahead!...I was thinking the other day about Andrew Niccol as a possible director. he has a very distinct visual style that may work well within the Bond universe and also has made some very fascinating and thought provoking films. Plus his last film IN TIME featured cinematography by Roger Deakins (he could bring him back!) and also a casino scene!...
    I just hope they don't dont make the mistake of hiring just anyone to direct. We don't need another Lee Tamahori behind the camera!

    It also proves that Mendes is not just in it for the money (as I am sure the offer was pretty generous and a lot more than what he might get for his theatre work)

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    I am glad, the Mendes option, that might have delayed the process is done with now and they can start actively to search for someone else, who has the guts to do it. Its a bit scary to do the follow up to a billion dollar film, I would think.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    edited March 2013 Posts: 17,687
    Germanlady wrote:
    Its a bit scary to do the follow up to a billion dollar film, I would think.
    Not a bit of it. It was the Thunderball of this century, no movie could ever match it dollarwise, so the pressure is effectively off. Now to just concentrate on making a good Bond movie, and it will automatically make at least 1/2 to 2/3 of what SF did. IMO at any rate.
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    chrisisall wrote:
    Germanlady wrote:
    Its a bit scary to do the follow up to a billion dollar film, I would think.
    Not a bit of it. It was the Thunderball of this century, no movie could ever match it dollarwise, so the pressure is effectively off. Now to just concentrate on making a good Bond movie, and it will automatically make at least 1/2 to 2/3 of what SF did. IMO at any rate.

    I think what 'The Dark Knight Rises' did after 'The Dark Knight', is possible for Bond 24 too. James Bond is now a lonely, stellar, money-crushing franchise again, like in the good old sixties..
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    @ Gustav, you're a very interesting fellow. I contest your suggestions of a 2015/16 release on a normal day and now you're advocating a 2017 release??? Incredible...
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    doubleoego wrote:
    @ Gustav, you're a very interesting fellow. I contest your suggestions of a 2015/16 release on a normal day and now you're advocating a 2017 release??? Incredible...

    Well, listen mate ;-). First of all, 'Interstellar' seems on course to premiere in 2014. In the worst case scenario perhaps early 2015. Christopher Nolan is doing the script of this sci-fi movie as well. Secondly, Nolan hasn't been assigned officially yet. IMDB is not mentioning him and it could very well be that Nolan is only doing the screenplay and passes the director's chair to someone else.

    So if you really want a firm answer from me? I'd stick to a late 2016 release of Bond 24. 2017 is indeed way too late, BUT a late release also builds up anticipation. Look what it did for CR and SF. I was only 'advocating' (you're using heavy word mate) a 2017 release, because it's impossible to shoot two movies at the same time.

    Also, I think we Bond fans are becoming quite greedy and spoiled. Because really, can't we wait until 2016 and then being treated with one hell of a spy thriller in 2016? That's the reason I'm a Bond fan: Always put quality before quantity. For the sake of another 50 years of Bond.
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    I'm very disappointed but here's to him coming back to do Bond 25. Let's make this happen!
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    edited March 2013 Posts: 11,139
    @Gustav, you've been told by numerous others that, longer breaks between movies are no guarantee of good quality. There's nothing wrong with 2 year gaps, especially if you have the right people in place.
  • edited March 2013 Posts: 194
    2017 premier? Why not just advocate for Nolan doing Bond 25? They could easily fit in Bond 24 before 2017 and not have that enormous layoff. Personally, I'm a fan of Nolan but I want to see him do an original or two before being tied up with an other franchise. I love the first two Batman's he did but TDKR left a sour taste in my mouth and wouldn't mind him getting back to basics before starting on a Bond flick.

    Also just to throw another hat into the ring - though I'm not sure I would be immediately excited about it - How do you guys think Pierre Morel would work? I go back and forth on whether he would be a good fit or not.
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
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    ultrabox wrote:
    Also just to throw another hat into the ring - though I'm not sure I would be immediately excited about it - How do you guys think Pierre Morel would work? I go back and forth on whether he would be a good fit or not.

    the Pierre Morel of "Taken"... yes.

    the Pierre Morel of "From Paris With Love"... no.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited March 2013 Posts: 13,350
    Right now, I'm gutted. It's as if no matter who steps in the film won't be as good as it could have been. Hoping for the best, we should know something within the next few months.

    I wonder what Baz will have to say on the subject.
  • HASEROT wrote:
    ultrabox wrote:
    Also just to throw another hat into the ring - though I'm not sure I would be immediately excited about it - How do you guys think Pierre Morel would work? I go back and forth on whether he would be a good fit or not.

    the Pierre Morel of "Taken"... yes.

    the Pierre Morel of "From Paris With Love"... no.

    Pierre Morel of TAKEN....NON
    Pierre Morel of FROM PARIS WITH LOVE NON

    Pierre Morel NON MERCI!


  • Posts: 194
    HASEROT wrote:
    ultrabox wrote:
    Also just to throw another hat into the ring - though I'm not sure I would be immediately excited about it - How do you guys think Pierre Morel would work? I go back and forth on whether he would be a good fit or not.

    the Pierre Morel of "Taken"... yes.

    the Pierre Morel of "From Paris With Love"... no.

    From Taken of course. ;)

    I think he has the chops from an action perspective, but there would be a little lost on the cinematic perspective. Like I said, I go back and forth.
  • edited March 2013 Posts: 11,119
    doubleoego wrote:
    @Gustav, you've been told by numerous others that, longer breaks between movies are no guarantee of good quality. There's nothing wrong with 2 year gaps, especially if you have the right people in place.

    I never said that a longer gap will automatically result in better/good quality. But I did say that I DO prefer quality over quantity and that I do think you can facilitate a better, healthy, more creative inspiring production environment if you take some time, if you are willing to take a longer break. That's what I said.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    The point is, what you're claiming to prefer can still be achieved with a 2 year break.
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    The_Reaper wrote:
    I'm very disappointed but here's to him coming back to do Bond 25. Let's make this happen!

    I think that's an interesting option indeed. Mendes for Bond 25 and now searching hard for another Oscar-heavy, world famous director for Bond 24 please :-).
  • edited March 2013 Posts: 11,119
    doubleoego wrote:
    The point is, what you're claiming to prefer can still be achieved with a 2 year break.

    Off course, but the chances are usually slimmer. Look to TND that followed GE. The terrible rushed casting choices of TWINE that followed TND. The scriptwriter's strike that had a huge impact on the production of QOS.

    Off course you can try hard, but why risking building up certain time buffers in case things go wrong? That's not understandable for me? Moreover, I believe you are patient enough to be waiting for a 2015...or most ideally a 2016 release of Bond 24.
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    doubleoego wrote:
    The point is, what you're claiming to prefer can still be achieved with a 2 year break.

    Agreed. I actually can't think of many examples where longer layovers work. I feel like the longer the layover the more time it allows people to get older, rusty, and distanced from the project. I do think that movies can be clustered too close together and be rushed, but 2-3 years is acceptable. However, I wouldn't mind a 4-5 year layover if they filmed multiple installments at the same time, ala LOTR (I know this is unlikely).
  • I am pretty sure that Daniel Craig is going to have some say on who gets on board for the next one. As he appears to be much more involved in the whole development process than previous actors.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    doubleoego wrote:
    The point is, what you're claiming to prefer can still be achieved with a 2 year break.

    Off course, but the chances are usually slimmer. Look to TND that followed GE. The terrible rushed casting choices of TWINE that followed TND. The scriptwriter's strike that had a huge impact on the production of QOS.

    Off course you can try hard, but why risking building up certain time buffers in case things go wrong? That's not understandable for me? Moreover, I believe you are patient enough to be waiting for a 2015...or most ideally a 2016 release of Bond 24.

    You missed the crucial part of my earlier post which was, having the right people in place. Feirestein imo isn't a terribly good writer and Spottiswoode is a subpar director. We all know about Wade and Purvis and Apted and his wife were just wrong and then to add to all of that, EoN for some reason felt the need to cash in on flavour of the month castings. I don't need to go into the abomination that is DAD. I like to think EoN have used the 90s era as a guide in, not what to do and since then have made smarter decisions. Like I said, it all comes down to having the right people in place, planning properly and learning from past mistakes. EoN appear to be doing that, they got rid of Purvis and Wade, they signed Logan on for the next 2 movies, Logan's already submitted a draft and we already have a core cast in Craig, Feinnes, Harris and Wishaw and with the mega success of SF, EoN want to be able to at least live up to the standard and quality of SF and it's not impossible to achieve this with 2 year gaps.


  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    The_Reaper wrote:
    I'm very disappointed but here's to him coming back to do Bond 25. Let's make this happen!

    I think that's an interesting option indeed. Mendes for Bond 25 and now searching hard for another Oscar-heavy, world famous director for Bond 24 please :-).

    Nolan isn't really an Oscar heavy director yet though, is he?
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
    edited March 2013 Posts: 4,399
    Nolan isn't really an Oscar heavy director yet though, is he?

    despite winning one, neither is Mendes..
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    HASEROT wrote:
    The_Reaper wrote:
    I'm very disappointed but here's to him coming back to do Bond 25. Let's make this happen!

    I think that's an interesting option indeed. Mendes for Bond 25 and now searching hard for another Oscar-heavy, world famous director for Bond 24 please :-).

    Nolan isn't really an Oscar heavy director yet though, is he?

    despite winning one, neither is Mendes..

    Fair point.
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    I know i represent the most minuscle Minority here,but to me that is very Good News indeed. Now if only that Logan Guy would declare his resignment from the Script Buisness altogether,i could expect the next Bond Movie far more relaxed!
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
    edited March 2013 Posts: 4,399
    @CraigMooreOHMSS

    Nolan has not yet been nominated for an Academy Award.... so no, i would not classify him as an Oscar-Heavy director.

    IMO, his directing i find very flat from an artistic standpoint... i enjoy his movies, and i like him as a director - but i think he's just a tad overrated when it comes to style.
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