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  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited September 2015 Posts: 23,883
    This latest news about Craig staying on until he wants to leave doesn't confirm or deny anything. I don't think anyone was suggesting he was going to be forced out. If anything, everyone has been saying the decision would always be his to make, and he has been non-commital to date.

    If anything, Smith being announced as the title track singer (after months of denial) should have taught us that anything coming out of EON or anywhere else prior to the film's release and an official announcement is BS.

    Does anyone really still believe Waltz's protestations that he is not Blofeld?

    So, again, this proves nothing, except that we won't know until they confirm or deny it one way or another down the road.
  • Bernie99 wrote: »

    The website states that they use the US release date to give information on the soundtrack and it does not mean that is the date that the soundtrack is released. Its highly likely that the soundtrack will be released much earlier than this date.

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    I think Craig's return will come down to how well SP does. If it comes near or equals SF in good reviews and BO, it is likely he'll do one more, but if it doesn't get at least close, SP will likely be his last Bond. It would not just be Craig's decision, but also EONs and the next studio, although I think Craig's pride would result in his jumping first before he got pushed. The franchise stakes have gotten too huge and as much as BB and Wilson may love Craig, Bond is in their bones, and ultimately it will be a business, not a loyalty to Craig decision.

    I'd think now that he is getting back end $ as co-producer, that and his huge salary on B25 would seem just too enormous for a kid from Liverpool to turn down. His close and obviously comfortable arrangement he has working with EON would also be a factor. He had plenty of time between SF and SP to do multiple small films but, regretfully, he chose not to do any, so Bond is not keeping him from doing other films. I agree with other posters that his recent Esquire interview meant nothing. Despite the rumors, I don't think we'll know a thing till SP opens.
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    That's exactly how I and most here will read the current B25 situation smitty and can't envisage SP to be anything other than a resounding success on all levels and so what if it doesn't surpass SF.

    From its overall look style and the vibes from the trailers and posters, I personally think it will easily be the better film than SF. This has all the makings of a less troubled fully assured and in the groove proper adventure Bond and the only flaw I can fret over is Sam Smith putting out a limp wristed wtf song.
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    More concept art from eBay:
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  • edited September 2015 Posts: 3,169
    antovolk wrote: »
    More concept art from eBay:
    $_57.JPG
    And from inside:
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    Not going to search for the Bond girl thread, but here is something for Leah fans, actually Mrs. Bond and Mrs. Craig together ;)

    There are two vids of them arriving and of the PC.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3231379/Rachel-Weisz-shows-trim-waist-figure-hugging-leaf-print-skirt-premiere-new-film-Lobster-Toronto-Film-Festival.html#ixzz3lVXUWzTZ _________________
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    edited September 2015 Posts: 10,588
    Germanlady wrote: »
    Not going to search for the Bond girl thread, but here is something for Leah fans, actually Mrs. Bond and Mrs. Craig together ;)

    There are two vids of them arriving and of the PC.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3231379/Rachel-Weisz-shows-trim-waist-figure-hugging-leaf-print-skirt-premiere-new-film-Lobster-Toronto-Film-Festival.html#ixzz3lVXUWzTZ _________________
    Damn. I should have gone this year.
    antovolk wrote: »
    More concept art from eBay:
    $_57.JPG
    What do you think this building is?

  • leas_moleleas_mole love is the promise of suffering
    Posts: 574
    Yep - The Lobster was at TIFF this year. Will also be at Calgary Film Festival, Vancouver International Film Festival, New York Film Festival, BFI London Film Festival..

    According to the Sony Experia website The Lobster Première will be on 13th October in London - we will probably see Rachel, Léa and Ben on the red carpet.

    I am not sure if Sony Experia are sponsoring the event but if they are....well, it's a big coincidence!
  • leas_moleleas_mole love is the promise of suffering
    edited September 2015 Posts: 574
    jake24 wrote: »
    Germanlady wrote: »
    Not going to search for the Bond girl thread, but here is something for Leah fans, actually Mrs. Bond and Mrs. Craig together ;)

    There are two vids of them arriving and of the PC.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3231379/Rachel-Weisz-shows-trim-waist-figure-hugging-leaf-print-skirt-premiere-new-film-Lobster-Toronto-Film-Festival.html#ixzz3lVXUWzTZ _________________
    Damn. I should have gone this year.
    antovolk wrote: »
    More concept art from eBay:
    $_57.JPG
    What do you think this building is?
    It's the CNS building
  • edited September 2015 Posts: 591
    ggl007 wrote: »

    Really liked this. Like a nice little Moneypenny spin-off :)
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    DC will be back!
  • Anyone else about to watch Casino Royale on ITV?
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    Nice one, but sadly i gotta go bed as work calls at 5.45am!! I-)
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    Anyone else about to watch Casino Royale on ITV?

    Watching. Don't care what anyone says, DA's score alone elevates this way above SF. Newman needs to up his game in SP.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    Posts: 12,459
    I quite agree about those 2 scores and Newman, @RC7.
  • edited September 2015 Posts: 11,119
    RC7 wrote: »
    Anyone else about to watch Casino Royale on ITV?

    Watching. Don't care what anyone says, DA's score alone elevates this way above SF. Newman needs to up his game in SP.

    Firmly disagree. As one can read in the "Bond Music Score Contest", Arnold's best score still is "TND". A film like "CR" needed to have a score that could really compete with Barry's "OHMSS". It didn't happen...by far. Good score, but as forgettable as many other Arnold scores:
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    Moreover, been listening to the expanded "Skyfall" score lately, and I think it's a huge improvement over "CR" and "QOS". I really recommend it. Better mixed, tracks are extended. The entire full work that has been recorded, not for sale and mainly send out to the Academy members. Uncut. Some tracks that didn't make the films. Other tracks that did make the film, but not the soundtrack. I really recommend listening it, to prepare for "SPECTRE". It even has the gunbarrel ending in it, as well as a beautiful instrumental version of Paul Epworth's "Skyfall", the album version of Adele's "Skyfall" and the richer orchestrated movie version of Adele's "Skyfall". "Coffins" is a lovely track also:
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  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
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    By your own data, CR has nearly twice the amount of points as SF has, so I don't really see your point.
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    RC7 wrote: »
    Anyone else about to watch Casino Royale on ITV?

    Watching. Don't care what anyone says, DA's score alone elevates this way above SF. Newman needs to up his game in SP.

    I agree too. Newman and now Smith remain my biggest concerns, outside of a great plot obviously, for SP. I don't think either of them have demonstrated the talent to elevate the film which many talented film composers and song writers have done for films, but they sure have the ability to maybe not kill SP, but harm it.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited September 2015 Posts: 23,883
    smitty wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    Anyone else about to watch Casino Royale on ITV?

    Watching. Don't care what anyone says, DA's score alone elevates this way above SF. Newman needs to up his game in SP.

    I agree too. Newman and now Smith remain my biggest concerns, outside of a great plot obviously, for SP. I don't think either of them have demonstrated the talent to elevate the film which many talented film composers and song writers have done for films, but they sure have the ability to maybe not kill SP, but harm it.

    Sep 25th will be the real signal/indicator. If Smith's song is a POS, then we could have legitimate concerns for the score, as I'm sure Newman has had some input (given it was recorded in Jan).

    If it's melodic and Bondian sounding, then the score is probably going to blow all naysayers away. My bet, given how SP is being marketed and promoted: We are in for a real surprise, to the upside, for the score.

    Let's talk in November.
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    doubleoego wrote: »
    Nice find @Germanlady.

    But in our case, Daniel IS James Bond. End of discussion! Until he himself decides otherwise, we are not, and I even absolutely not add, interested in the idea to consider anyone else in the role.

    That says it all. Fans, the media and the average Joe can speculate and say what they want but tge producers take comfort in knowing Bond is a hot topic worth talking about by society and their decisions on hand eking their property and who Bond is is entirely their own.

    Moreover, this makes it quite clear for me that Barbara and Michael are going to offer Daniel Craig shit loads of money to stay in the role.....similar to Connery and Moore. Daniel Craig is here to stay :-).

    I think enough time has passed for me to say that my first source for the information that it will be "impossible" for DC to stay in the role was actually Sam Mendes.

    My second, more recent, source was an uncredited writer who did some polish work on a few scenes.

    Again, I'd say that this doesn't mean things can't/haven't changed. But hopefully we can agree that it would be foolish to completely discount Mendes's opinion.

    Personally, I'm fine either way. I'd be very happy to see DC stay, even though I think neither QOS or SKYFALL lived up to the promise of CR. He's still the best Bond since Connery, imo. But equally, I think there's some good candidates out there to take the mantle. There's a neatness to allowing these four films to be a self-contained unit and, frankly, I don't see how much further they can push this tone.

    But if you really think you'll be devastated by Craig leaving, I'd suggest you start getting used to the idea. Every new piece of info that slips out fits, more or less, with what Mendes said to me and the PR fluff from Barbara Broccoli doesn't for one second convince me otherwise.

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    bondjames wrote: »

    Let's talk in November.

    Question really is, were this thread to go into meltdown in the small hours of the 27th Oct with every thread cloaked in spoiler tags, are you guys waiting for the 6th Nov going to survive the wait!?
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited September 2015 Posts: 23,883
    andmcit wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Let's talk in November.
    Question really is, were this thread to go into meltdown in the small hours of the 27th Oct with every thread cloaked in spoiler tags, are you guys waiting for the 6th Nov going to survive the wait!?
    I'm a November Man, sadly as I'm currently residing stateside. I've resigned myself to the fact that I'll have to leave the boards for a few weeks, until it hits my shores.
  • By your own data, CR has nearly twice the amount of points as SF has, so I don't really see your point.

    Yeah, and IMO the reason I disagree. An unjust affair really ;-).

    Let me rephrase then: Both SF and CR deserved a score that could match the quality of OHMSS. There's one big difference though. David Arnold had a whopping 6 opportunities to improve upon his first score. He failed to do so. Even with CR. Thomas Newman on the contrary, has only done ONE Bond score. Give the poor man a chance and let's not be too harsh on him just yet. Barry's first score for FRWL wasn't as memorable as GF or TB.

  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    edited September 2015 Posts: 4,116
    dmwalker wrote: »
    doubleoego wrote: »
    Nice find @Germanlady.

    But in our case, Daniel IS James Bond. End of discussion! Until he himself decides otherwise, we are not, and I even absolutely not add, interested in the idea to consider anyone else in the role.

    That says it all. Fans, the media and the average Joe can speculate and say what they want but tge producers take comfort in knowing Bond is a hot topic worth talking about by society and their decisions on hand eking their property and who Bond is is entirely their own.

    Moreover, this makes it quite clear for me that Barbara and Michael are going to offer Daniel Craig shit loads of money to stay in the role.....similar to Connery and Moore. Daniel Craig is here to stay :-).

    I think enough time has passed for me to say that my first source for the information that it will be "impossible" for DC to stay in the role was actually Sam Mendes.

    My second, more recent, source was an uncredited writer who did some polish work on a few scenes.

    Again, I'd say that this doesn't mean things can't/haven't changed. But hopefully we can agree that it would be foolish to completely discount Mendes's opinion.

    Personally, I'm fine either way. I'd be very happy to see DC stay, even though I think neither QOS or SKYFALL lived up to the promise of CR. He's still the best Bond since Connery, imo. But equally, I think there's some good candidates out there to take the mantle. There's a neatness to allowing these four films to be a self-contained unit and, frankly, I don't see how much further they can push this tone.

    But if you really think you'll be devastated by Craig leaving, I'd suggest you start getting used to the idea. Every new piece of info that slips out fits, more or less, with what Mendes said to me and the PR fluff from Barbara Broccoli doesn't for one second convince me otherwise.

    Explain how impossible. Obviously based on your comments Bond isn't dying unless some juvenile codename crap.

    Is it contractual? Are the producers implementing height requirements?

    Are you really betraying someone who trusted you?



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    dmwalker wrote: »
    doubleoego wrote: »
    Nice find @Germanlady.

    But in our case, Daniel IS James Bond. End of discussion! Until he himself decides otherwise, we are not, and I even absolutely not add, interested in the idea to consider anyone else in the role.

    That says it all. Fans, the media and the average Joe can speculate and say what they want but tge producers take comfort in knowing Bond is a hot topic worth talking about by society and their decisions on hand eking their property and who Bond is is entirely their own.

    Moreover, this makes it quite clear for me that Barbara and Michael are going to offer Daniel Craig shit loads of money to stay in the role.....similar to Connery and Moore. Daniel Craig is here to stay :-).

    I think enough time has passed for me to say that my first source for the information that it will be "impossible" for DC to stay in the role was actually Sam Mendes.

    My second, more recent, source was an uncredited writer who did some polish work on a few scenes.

    Again, I'd say that this doesn't mean things can't/haven't changed. But hopefully we can agree that it would be foolish to completely discount Mendes's opinion.

    Personally, I'm fine either way. I'd be very happy to see DC stay, even though I think neither QOS or SKYFALL lived up to the promise of CR. He's still the best Bond since Connery, imo. But equally, I think there's some good candidates out there to take the mantle. There's a neatness to allowing these four films to be a self-contained unit and, frankly, I don't see how much further they can push this tone.

    But if you really think you'll be devastated by Craig leaving, I'd suggest you start getting used to the idea. Every new piece of info that slips out fits, more or less, with what Mendes said to me and the PR fluff from Barbara Broccoli doesn't for one second convince me otherwise.

    Interesting... I assume you can't reveal further details if you know them - the why couldn't he stay, I mean.

    In any case, since there is no proof at all either way about will he stay or will he go, it could be either, I suppose. Or, at least, like you suggest, people like Gustav better prepare themselves indeed that he might leave. Nothing has been said by anyone that makes it clear he will stay, the PR stuff doesn't really mean that much, you're absolutely right about that.

    I'd be fine either way as well - I don't take this stuff that seriously. He's my fave Bond, so I'd like him to stay, but if not there must be good reasons for that, too, so...

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    By your own data, CR has nearly twice the amount of points as SF has, so I don't really see your point.

    Yeah, and IMO the reason I disagree. An unjust affair really ;-).

    Let me rephrase then: Both SF and CR deserved a score that could match the quality of OHMSS. There's one big difference though. David Arnold had a whopping 6 opportunities to improve upon his first score. He failed to do so. Even with CR. Thomas Newman on the contrary, has only done ONE Bond score. Give the poor man a chance and let's not be too harsh on him just yet. Barry's first score for FRWL wasn't as memorable as GF or TB.

    Well, by your logic, John Williams first score for the first Star Wars should have been weak, and his first Indiana Jones film score should have been weak too, cause they were first films in their series of films. These scores are viewed as being rather great with melodies that are hugely popular to this day. 1st film in a series, 10th film, it's irrelevant if the composing talent is there. Newman has composed dozens of film scores. No excuse for SF not having memorable music.

  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    Posts: 4,116
    mcdonbb wrote: »
    dmwalker wrote: »
    doubleoego wrote: »
    Nice find @Germanlady.

    But in our case, Daniel IS James Bond. End of discussion! Until he himself decides otherwise, we are not, and I even absolutely not add, interested in the idea to consider anyone else in the role.

    That says it all. Fans, the media and the average Joe can speculate and say what they want but tge producers take comfort in knowing Bond is a hot topic worth talking about by society and their decisions on hand eking their property and who Bond is is entirely their own.

    Moreover, this makes it quite clear for me that Barbara and Michael are going to offer Daniel Craig shit loads of money to stay in the role.....similar to Connery and Moore. Daniel Craig is here to stay :-).

    I think enough time has passed for me to say that my first source for the information that it will be "impossible" for DC to stay in the role was actually Sam Mendes.

    My second, more recent, source was an uncredited writer who did some polish work on a few scenes.

    Again, I'd say that this doesn't mean things can't/haven't changed. But hopefully we can agree that it would be foolish to completely discount Mendes's opinion.

    Personally, I'm fine either way. I'd be very happy to see DC stay, even though I think neither QOS or SKYFALL lived up to the promise of CR. He's still the best Bond since Connery, imo. But equally, I think there's some good candidates out there to take the mantle. There's a neatness to allowing these four films to be a self-contained unit and, frankly, I don't see how much further they can push this tone.

    But if you really think you'll be devastated by Craig leaving, I'd suggest you start getting used to the idea. Every new piece of info that slips out fits, more or less, with what Mendes said to me and the PR fluff from Barbara Broccoli doesn't for one second convince me otherwise.

    Explain how impossible. Obviously based on your comments Bond isn't dying unless some juvenile codename crap.

    Is it contractual? Are the producers implementing height requirements?

    Are you really betraying someone whom trusted you?



    Well they wouldn't say right before a release anyway.


  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,333
    It's time for a more memorable Score for SPECTRE. If it doesn't deliver then we need a New man for the job. Or woman. ;)
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