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  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 It was this or the priesthood.
    edited November 2013 Posts: 28,231
    How many locations would you all like to see in Bond 24? I hope at least Ireland, as that would be a great first for the series. You could even tie in Mallory's IRA past or something like that. I'd also like to see Dan's Bond handle the snow, as the Heineken commercial made my mouth water.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I would love seeing Bond go somewhere he has yet to go to, like Australia.
  • SandySandy Somewhere in Europe
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    Am I the only one that simply doesn't believe this Ireland rumour? I think Babs was just being nice to the journalist who asked her, and Mendes went to Ireland because of Penny Dreadful, nothing more.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 It was this or the priesthood.
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    Sandy wrote:
    Am I the only one that simply doesn't believe this Ireland rumour? I think Babs was just being nice to the journalist who asked her, and Mendes went to Ireland because of Penny Dreadful, nothing more.

    But while there maybe Mendes got inspiration? He's all about doing new things and taking on new challenges, so maybe taking Bond to Ireland for the first time would be just that for him.
  • QOS cost more than $200million. Some reports suggest that QOS cost $261million!

    http://www.deadline.com/2008/10/new-bond-wannasee-double-casino-royale-questions-about-quantum-of-solace-cost/

    Insanity.

    The truth is that studios lie all the time about the budget of tentpole flicks, often playing down how expensive these films really are.

    But QOS is clearly a very expensive film; there is a huge amount of location work (imagine having to take an entire crew with you and keep them fed over six different locations) and lots of big scale action work.

    SF was much more modest by comparison. However, SF used it's money more wisely and actually delivered a better movie for it. Big most definitely does not mean better. I'd quite happily see Bond's budget slashed considerably and we instead we can instead hopefully get a grittier tougher picture set in the Cold War.
  • How many locations would you all like to see in Bond 24?
    You mean real one or CGs ?

    My real worry is the use of more and more CG to cut the budget...

    For a looong time, the Bond movies were the movies in which the producers put all the money on screen. I'm sure Cubby could have fired Curd Jurgens (random choice of actor) if he had asked for 10% more salary. In the meantime I think he could have decided "easily" to put shiny pieces of metal all over the place inside the Liparus set to make it look better on the screen even if it costed dozens of thousands of dollars.

    Now, I'm afraid someone from Sony come and say : "Listen, Sam, do you really need to go to that exotic place ? Just shoot with a green screen at the back of the set, and we can ask Sony Picture Imageworks or another one of our companies to re-create the background. You know, One Sony. And then we have more money left to pay the stars who will bring in the audience, and their agents."
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I really hope they don't go with more CG. That Patrice fall bothers me so much, especially after the beautiful looking slow-motion fall we saw in the trailers.
  • Creasy47 wrote:
    I really hope they don't go with more CG. That Patrice fall bothers me so much, especially after the beautiful looking slow-motion fall we saw in the trailers.
    I'm glad I'm not the only one who felt this way. After seeing that magnificent shot so many times in the trailers and TV spots, I was so disappointed to see the take that ended up in the film.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Same. It really disappointed me, not sure why they went with CGI if they already had a real shot. Makes no sense.
  • Maybe Ola Rapace didn't want to do it one more time :)
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    As long as the story in the film is good. I dont care about locations
  • edited November 2013 Posts: 2,492
    Ireland doesn't really do it for me as a location not that I think that Broccoli was being serious about this place anyway but you never know... I'd rather Mr James goes somewhere more exotic. The Caribbean or an eastern European country (excluding Prague as many movies have been shot there) or Scandinavia could be good.
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    Bounine wrote:
    Ireland doesn't really do it for me as a location not that I think that Broccoli was being serious about this place anyway but you never know... I'd rather Mr James goes somewhere more exotic. The Caribbean or an eastern European country (excluding Prague as many movies have been shot there) or Scandinavia could be good.

    I'd love to see Scandinavia, and a Scandinavian villain, but I think it might be too expensive to shoot.
  • edited November 2013 Posts: 2,492
    Ludovico wrote:
    Bounine wrote:
    Ireland doesn't really do it for me as a location not that I think that Broccoli was being serious about this place anyway but you never know... I'd rather Mr James goes somewhere more exotic. The Caribbean or an eastern European country (excluding Prague as many movies have been shot there) or Scandinavia could be good.

    I'd love to see Scandinavia, and a Scandinavian villain, but I think it might be too expensive to shoot.

    If it's too expensive for them to go to Stockholm or Helsinki for example, then perhaps the budget cuts are bigger than I thought! They're not far from England.

    It would be good to see Bond in Copenhagen too as I've lived there. :)
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    edited November 2013 Posts: 9,117
    Bounine wrote:
    Ludovico wrote:
    Bounine wrote:
    Ireland doesn't really do it for me as a location not that I think that Broccoli was being serious about this place anyway but you never know... I'd rather Mr James goes somewhere more exotic. The Caribbean or an eastern European country (excluding Prague as many movies have been shot there) or Scandinavia could be good.

    I'd love to see Scandinavia, and a Scandinavian villain, but I think it might be too expensive to shoot.

    If it's too expensive for them to go to Stockholm or Helsinki for example, then perhaps the budget cuts are bigger than I thought! They're not far from England.

    It would be good to see Bond in Copenhagen too as I've lived there. :)

    I agree Scandinavia would be great, it would be nice to see some scenes in Stockholm, Oslo or Helsinki and then out into the countryside for some snowy action.

    But I also agree that it's unlikely to happen. Given the amount of CGI used in SF it seems that proper location filming is slowly dying in Bond films. Although I suppose shutting down Whitehall was impressive but Silva's island says it all. Could have easily sent the 2nd unit to get some establishing shots even if they did everything with the actors on a set but they couldn't even be bothered to do that. Much cheaper to have a CGI rendering with a convenient bank of fog to hide the join.

    The prices of food and accommodation in Scandinavia make it pretty impractical to take a large unit there.

    Plus don't forget that every film that wants to make big money has to have some scenes set in China these days so we'll probably be going back there before long.
  • edited November 2013 Posts: 12,618
    Bounine wrote:
    Ludovico wrote:
    Bounine wrote:
    Ireland doesn't really do it for me as a location not that I think that Broccoli was being serious about this place anyway but you never know... I'd rather Mr James goes somewhere more exotic. The Caribbean or an eastern European country (excluding Prague as many movies have been shot there) or Scandinavia could be good.

    I'd love to see Scandinavia, and a Scandinavian villain, but I think it might be too expensive to shoot.

    If it's too expensive for them to go to Stockholm or Helsinki for example, then perhaps the budget cuts are bigger than I thought! They're not far from England.

    It would be good to see Bond in Copenhagen too as I've lived there. :)

    What I meant by that is that the cost of living being very high, the cost of shooting there may be too. Don't get me wrong, I WANT to see Bond go there, I think the settings would be visually stunning, original and even inspiring plot-wise. But I wonder if it is not too expensive.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Yeah, after watching Fincher's TGWTDT I definitely want to see Bond (Craig)in that sort of setting for one of the locations or even have Germany as a location. Europe has plenty to offer. That being said, I'd like for Bond 24 to have a maximum of 3 locations not including London's obvious briefing scenes.
  • MrBondMrBond Station S
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    There's a lots of potential to shoot something here in Sweden. Depending on when they would shoot the film. If they (hypotheticly) would shoot in the winter then they could shoot some intense skiing/snowmobile chases in northern Sweden. If not that, they could shoot some interesting scenes in Stockholm or it's surrounding parts!
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    I do not mind the size of the budget as long as I see most of it on the big screen.

    With QoS I wondered seriously about it when CR & SF look far better and more luxurious.
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    doubleoego wrote:
    Yeah, after watching Fincher's TGWTDT I definitely want to see Bond (Craig)in that sort of setting for one of the locations or even have Germany as a location. Europe has plenty to offer. That being said, I'd like for Bond 24 to have a maximum of 3 locations not including London's obvious briefing scenes.

    I agree, I think it is better to show more of less, so to speak, i.e. give a sense of place and explore a particular setting, instead of traveling all around. Have a DN or TB kind of movie in that sense, with one main setting. And in Europe, there are still a few places that are both cheap AND good looking. One or the other is easy to find, both at the same time, this is when it becomes challenging.
    MrBond wrote:
    There's a lots of potential to shoot something here in Sweden. Depending on when they would shoot the film. If they (hypotheticly) would shoot in the winter then they could shoot some intense skiing/snowmobile chases in northern Sweden. If not that, they could shoot some interesting scenes in Stockholm or it's surrounding parts!

    Stop making me dream. I'd LOVE to see Sweden in a Bond movie, it is a beautiful country and geographically, it could lead to some interesting plots (what with its proximity with Russia). AND they would have plenty of material for Bond girls. But I still fear it is too expensive.
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    SaintMark wrote:
    I do not mind the size of the budget as long as I see most of it on the big screen.

    With QoS I wondered seriously about it when CR & SF look far better and more luxurious.

    Because Mark Forster decided to bring the whole crew to all those far away locations, only to NOT show any of it, really. :-w

    You can see, he is dear to my heart :D
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    Germanlady wrote:
    SaintMark wrote:
    I do not mind the size of the budget as long as I see most of it on the big screen.

    With QoS I wondered seriously about it when CR & SF look far better and more luxurious.

    Because Mark Forster decided to bring the whole crew to all those far away locations, only to NOT show any of it, really. :-w

    You can see, he is dear to my heart :D

    Look at MR that did some pretty special locations and yet you see the money spend on the big screen.

  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Maybe it's because I live in the US and I've been to roughly seven or eight states and nowhere else my entire life, but I thought QoS was beautiful in terms of locales: from the opening chase to the rooftops and waters of Italy, it showed it all off quite nicely.
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    Creasy47 wrote:
    Maybe it's because I live in the US and I've been to roughly seven or eight states and nowhere else my entire life, but I thought QoS was beautiful in terms of locales: from the opening chase to the rooftops and waters of Italy, it showed it all off quite nicely.

    Looking at that budget, no it was very poor.

    Heck Top Gear showed the flipping Desert from South America better and they do not have the budget that QoS had.

    The money spend on Sienna and suroundings was a waste of money as they did not show all that much. As for carchases the Aston Martin was undoubtely expensive but the whole chase looked so cheap and that was hidden due to pisspoor editing. Which was the fate for most actionscenes.
    QoS makes other 007 flics look great in actionscenes and overal viewing pleasure.

    The one thing I say about money spend on QoS, Dench & Craig were worth their paycheck. Had QoS been the first 007 outing by Craig we would by now be talking about the next guy. ;)
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @SaintMark, it's just my opinion. I wasn't crazy about the desert locales, I'm just saying that I've always loved Italy and it looks very beautiful in the film: the boat ride and subsequent Mathis meeting and the Bond/Mitchell chase through the streets and rooftops.
  • Creasy47 wrote:
    Maybe it's because I live in the US and I've been to roughly seven or eight states and nowhere else my entire life, but I thought QoS was beautiful in terms of locales: from the opening chase to the rooftops and waters of Italy, it showed it all off quite nicely.

    It looked quite nice (outside of the action scenes, when you could actually see what was going on), but Bond films with lower budgets have managed to show off much more. Look at YOLT and how brilliantly realised Japan was.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I feel like everything might look better if they avoid CG and have a lesser budget, so what they do focus on, they have to make count. Speaking of that...tone down the CG in 'Bond 24,' please.
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    Creasy47 wrote:
    @SaintMark, it's just my opinion. I wasn't crazy about the desert locales, I'm just saying that I've always loved Italy and it looks very beautiful in the film: the boat ride and subsequent Mathis meeting and the Bond/Mitchell chase through the streets and rooftops.

    No problem @Creasy47 each his own, I felt that better directors had done more with less budget.

    I forgot that I really was impressed by the Opera decor, that was money well spend.

    And In my humble opinion they did the beauty of Italy no great service with QoB.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @SaintMark, don't get me wrong, QoS is nowhere near the best in terms of showcasing its scenery. Those honors are held for many other Bond films, trust me, I'm with you on that.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    I'd take all the budget rumors with a boulder of salt...

    After SF, there was enough profit to buy out McClory.
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