US Election - November 6

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  • Haha, I agree. We're too hard on each other I think, but it's good that we're passionate about our views. If we didn't care, who would? I want you to know that I respect your beliefs as much as I want to disagree with them.

    All I can say is I'm happy that Skyfall is coming out after the election in the US. I will need every bit of escapism as I can get!
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    edited November 2012 Posts: 16,328
    JamesStock wrote:
    Haha, I agree. We're too hard on each other I think, but it's good that we're passionate about our views. If we didn't care, who would? I want you to know that I respect your beliefs as much as I want to disagree with them.

    All I can say is I'm happy that Skyfall is coming out after the election in the US. I will need every bit of escapism as I can get!

    Agreed! Me and my dad are going to see it this weekend. It's going to be a fantastic weekend. :)
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    00Beast wrote:
    @Agent007391: Blaming Bush? Seriously? Obama "inherited" this problem? I don't believe it one bit. If he did "inherit" such a problem, why is he not doing anything about it? We're not seeing results, and it's his job as the President to actually do something about it, which clearly, he has no capability to do because he is an incompetent suck-up who got lucky by pulling the race card!

    Once again, you expect that a problem that grew for eight years can be fixed in less than four. We also don't know every policy that he's put through to congress that congress might have vetoed, now do we? Your magical fix could have been one of them.
    00Beast wrote:
    George Bush did this country a service by enacting an offensive attack against the terrorists who attacked us first. Bush showed us that even when this nation has been hit hard, we fight back!

    I was unaware that 9/11 was an attack by Saddam Hussein... I always thought Osama Bin-Laden did that, and who killed him?
    00Beast wrote:
    Obama is a pansy who thinks we should just agree peaceably with everyone and not step on any toes.

    War and death are the only ways to solve a problem? Peace is not an option? Clearly your answer to our little feud here would be to hunt me down and put a bullet in my head, right?
    00Beast wrote:
    Seriously, how many under-the-table deals is he getting rich off of to avoid facing the issue when we should actually be taking care of the problem!

    Right, because every Republican has been 100% honest with us. They weren't getting rich by their time in office, and they weren't dealing under the table with anybody. Every President does this, not just Obama, and Obama probably hasn't even committed the worst of them.
    00Beast wrote:
    Bush knew what it takes to run this country, and run it well. Because of him, the Taliban is considerably weakened compared to a decade ago, and its two big leaders, Sadam Houssein and Osama bin Laden, are DEAD because of his efforts!

    Once again, it was Obama who capped Bin Laden, and Saddam Hussein wasn't even a member of the Taliban. He may have supported them (either in public or in private, but that doesn't matter), but he was not their leader.

    I'm going to use some Family Guy quotes here:

    Brian: No, Peter, this is the site of the 9/11 terrorist attacks!
    Peter: Oh, so Saddam Hussein did this?
    Brian: No.
    Peter: The Iraqi army?
    Brian: No.
    Peter: Some guys from Iraq?
    Brian: No.
    Peter: That one lady who visited Iraq that one time?
    Brian: No, Peter, Iraq had nothing to do with this. It was a bunch of Saudi Arabians, Lebanese, and Egyptians financed by a Saudi Arabian guy living in Afghanistan and sheltered by Pakistanis.
    Peter: So...you're saying we need to invade Iran?

    However, Peter could be replaced with any Republican while Brian could be replaced by anyone who actually knows the truth.
    00Beast wrote:
    Its a shame the presidency was not extended to extra terms just for George W. Bush, because we need him back! Thankfully we have Romney to turn this nation around, and get it back to some moral roots which Obama has helped to TRAMPLE!

    Moral roots? Moral roots? The only "moral" roots that Bush gave us was "When somebody pisses you off, take it out on the guy beside him." Romney'll turn this nation around, alright, right back to shooting first and asking questions never.
  • Murdock wrote:
    JamesStock wrote:
    Haha, I agree. We're too hard on each other I think, but it's good that we're passionate about our views. If we didn't care, who would? I want you to know that I respect your beliefs as much as I want to disagree with them.

    All I can say is I'm happy that Skyfall is coming out after the election in the US. I will need every bit of escapism as I can get!

    Agreed! Me and my dad are going to see it this weekend. It's going to be a fantastic weekend. :)

    Hear hear! No matter who wins tonight, at least we'll all have Skyfall to be happy about!
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    Murdock wrote:
    JamesStock wrote:
    Haha, I agree. We're too hard on each other I think, but it's good that we're passionate about our views. If we didn't care, who would? I want you to know that I respect your beliefs as much as I want to disagree with them.

    All I can say is I'm happy that Skyfall is coming out after the election in the US. I will need every bit of escapism as I can get!

    Agreed! Me and my dad are going to see it this weekend. It's going to be a fantastic weekend. :)

    Hear hear! No matter who wins tonight, at least we'll all have Skyfall to be happy about!

    Very true. I'm (hopefully) going to see it on Saturday.
  • KerimKerim Istanbul Not Constantinople
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    Murdock wrote:
    JamesStock wrote:
    Haha, I agree. We're too hard on each other I think, but it's good that we're passionate about our views. If we didn't care, who would? I want you to know that I respect your beliefs as much as I want to disagree with them.

    All I can say is I'm happy that Skyfall is coming out after the election in the US. I will need every bit of escapism as I can get!

    Agreed! Me and my dad are going to see it this weekend. It's going to be a fantastic weekend. :)

    Hear hear! No matter who wins tonight, at least we'll all have Skyfall to be happy about!

    Now that is something all the Americans on here can agree to.

  • RC7RC7
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    00Beast wrote:
    I have to agreeably disagree here. First off, I'll just say that I do not believe that gay people should have any rights to get married. I believe in a God who intended marriage to be between man and woman only, and I back candidates like Romney who see it that way as well. Secondly, I do sympathize for rape victims, I mean it is a terrible tragedy, but I believe that abortion is the equivalent of murder, since it is killing off God's creation in the womb.

    If every American citizen was like you the world would be absolutely f'd.

    Take your head out of that work of fiction and smell the coffee. I'm quite a liberal sort who tends to adhere to the idea that everyone has a valid opinion. I draw the line at this kind of horse sh*t though. Religion and Politics shouldn't be allowed in the same universe. One deals with actuality and as such those who partake in it can be held accountable. The other leads to a situation where your actions are not your own but determined by a man in the sky. You're just as bad as the people you despise in the middle east. Take off the shackles, travel the world, meet people who think differently and open your mind to 'reality'. Sitting behind the safety blanket of the US border will destroy you from the inside.
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
    edited November 2012 Posts: 4,399
    i just got back from the voting booth, and casted my vote for Obama..

    #1 - I am not voting for or supporting a candidate who will take away a women's right to abortion - even through rape or incest... I am also not voting for or supporting a candidate who will give tax breaks to the wealthy, and once again screw the middle class - had 8 years of that under Bush, don't want it to ever happen again.... and speaking of Bush..

    #2 - I voted for Obama, because I am willing to give him another 4 years... simply because it's unrealistic to expect "everything to be fixed" in 4 years, when it took his predecessor 8 years to destroy everything..

    #3 - Growing up in America through 9/11, it made me very vindictive towards to the Republican party, because I grew to see them (especially Bush/Cheney) as nothing more than fear mongers - who repeatedly threw the greatest tragedy this nation has ever seen in our face in self righteous attempts of "you remember this don't you??!! - if you don't want this to happen again, then you'll vote for us.."... it almost came off as borderline threats..... whatever trust I could've had in that party, was forever lost - and FoxNews certainly didn't help matters either - the 24/7 clown show that is..

    if this country makes the fatal mistake and elects Romney as it's new President...... then i've lost all hope for my country - may just move to England... i love the rain, there's a plus already lol.
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    I wish us all the best - may the better man win and we know, who that is - even though, with political votes its mostly about voting for the lesser evil really.
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
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    Germanlady wrote:
    I wish us all the best - may the better man win and we know, who that is - even though, with political votes its mostly about voting for the lesser evil really.

    very true.... what you're essentially voting for is "Lube?" or "No Lube?"

  • edited November 2012 Posts: 4,813
    ^LOL

    'So I'm f---ed either way.'

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  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
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    ^LOL

    'So I'm f---ed either way.'

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  • 00Beast wrote:
    Murdock wrote:
    Obama. Simply because, He's for education. I'm a college student and I have enough problems already and don't need Romney racking up my bills. I'm also voting for Obama because he's not focused on banning rights. It's America in 2012. Gay people have a right to get married. And rape victims have a right to abortion if they don't want their attacker's baby. How does giving the rich More money help me out? It doesn't. Romney is a bomb waiting to explode in America's face. Also Obama was responsible for ordering Bin Laden's death but everyone seems to forget that. Four more years of Obama please.

    I have to agreeably disagree here. First off, I'll just say that I do not believe that gay people should have any rights to get married. I believe in a God who intended marriage to be between man and woman only, and I back candidates like Romney who see it that way as well. Secondly, I do sympathize for rape victims, I mean it is a terrible tragedy, but I believe that abortion is the equivalent of murder, since it is killing off God's creation in the womb. It's no different than shooting the baby right after it comes out of the mother, which for some reason, seems unspeakable, yet we can inject poisons into a lady to kill the child and somehow that is "humane". Positively sickening, if I do say so. Thirdly, I do believe that those who do well economically by working for their living and saving well so that they might be considered "rich" should be given more because they can handle the responsibility and have earned it themselves.

    If anyone ever needs an argument for why we'd all be better off without the disease that is religion, present them this. I still can't quite believe a country in the 21st century is considering electing a man like Mitt Romney.
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    The problem, though, is that for every one of us who doesn't want religion, there are just as many who do, and while abolishing religion will please us, those who want it will start begging for it just as much as we're begging now for it's destruction. We'll be at the same damn stalemate.
  • HASEROT wrote:
    Germanlady wrote:
    I wish us all the best - may the better man win and we know, who that is - even though, with political votes its mostly about voting for the lesser evil really.

    very true.... what you're essentially voting for is "Lube?" or "No Lube?"

    Germans don't use lube, they use crushed glass.

    I can't believe people are being brainwashed into another war. How many more times are we manipulated to sort out Israel's foreign policy?

    Do people really think another country is going to launch a nuclear strike without being obliterated within 15 mins?

    It's never going to happen Mitt the Moron.

    How stupid are people? Oh yes we are talking about the average American...

    Just give the Palestinians their land back please - and that would be the end of 'middle-eastern' tensions.

  • GoldenballGoldenball United States
    edited November 2012 Posts: 74
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    Sandy wrote:
    What has Obama done that's made you happy?

    President Obama repealed "Don't Ask, Don't Tell."

    He ended the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    He saved the automobile industry and tens of thousands of jobs throughout the mid-west; He signed into law the "Equal Pay For Equal Work Act" insuring that women are paid the same as men for the same work;
    He killed Osama Bin Laden, mastermind of 9/11;
    He passed laws restricting what credit cards can do, put into effect the most stringent new rules on how Wall Street investors can do their jobs and got the insurance companies to allow college age students to stay on their parents plan while children with preexisting conditions can now get medical insurance.

    "The Affordable Care Act" hopes to insure 90% of all Americans.

    Obama believes a woman has the right over her body. Romney and Ryan don't. They believe life begins at conception and if they win, set into motion a plan that would make abortion murder.

    President Obama never apologized to any foreign leader, not even for eight years of Bush & Cheney. Just lies.

    President Obama never took the work requirement out of assistance. They just say he did, like Romney taking the credit for the auto bail-out.

    And I like the way Obama handles the mud that's flung at him. He has a cool, zen-like calmness about him, so even when the Right claim he's illegitimate, lazy, and a socialist,
    he appears confident and sincere. I trust him. Romney is whatever you want to make of him- he's like an Etch-A-Sketch, and this is from his own camp. I'll take that

    . . . as a warning.
  • edited November 2012 Posts: 12,837
    Some of these posts made me think of this.

    "Then a black man was elected president. He promised change but... it never came.."

    Eric Cartman/The Coon (South Park)
  • edited November 2012 Posts: 12,837
    Sandy wrote:
    I also don't understand how the USA doesn't have a public health care service for example. I aways lived in countries where health care is a right and I cannot imagine a civilized country where it isn't, I think this says a lot.

    I never got that either. And whenever I see Americans arguing against free health care I just get really, really confused. We have the NHS over here in the UK and it works fine, I think Obama care would probably work the same way? Sorry if I sound like an idiot here because I really don't understand American politics much.
    but I really resent Europeans who think we're all like that because we're not. We're not all dumb or fat or have a southern accents.

    We'll cut you a deal. Us in the UK won't stereotype you as fat idiots anymore, if you lot in America won't stereotype us as weak posh people with yellow teeth anymore. Deal? ;)
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    but I really resent Europeans who think we're all like that because we're not. We're not all dumb or fat or have a southern accents.

    We'll cut you a deal. Us in the UK won't stereotype you as fat idiots anymore, if you lot in America won't stereotype us as weak posh people with yellow teeth anymore. Deal? ;)

    Wait, you mean Brits don't look like that? ;)
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,687
    Sandy wrote:
    I also don't understand how the USA doesn't have a public health care service for example. I aways lived in countries where health care is a right and I cannot imagine a civilized country where it isn't, I think this says a lot.

    I never got that either. And whenever I see Americans arguing against free health care I just get really, really confused.
    Welcome to my world. In America, we all pay for roads (most of which we'll never drive on) and that's okay, but if we all paid for health care (most of which we'll probably one day need) that's suddenly Communist or something. Utter nonsense.
  • edited November 2012 Posts: 4,813
    but I really resent Europeans who think we're all like that because we're not. We're not all dumb or fat or have a southern accents.

    We'll cut you a deal. Us in the UK won't stereotype you as fat idiots anymore, if you lot in America won't stereotype us as weak posh people with yellow teeth anymore. Deal? ;)

    Wait, you mean Brits don't look like that? ;)
    Oh he's just pulling your leg, of course they do! :P
  • DiscoVolanteDiscoVolante Stockholm, Sweden
    Posts: 1,347
    RC7 wrote:
    00Beast wrote:
    I have to agreeably disagree here. First off, I'll just say that I do not believe that gay people should have any rights to get married. I believe in a God who intended marriage to be between man and woman only, and I back candidates like Romney who see it that way as well. Secondly, I do sympathize for rape victims, I mean it is a terrible tragedy, but I believe that abortion is the equivalent of murder, since it is killing off God's creation in the womb.

    If every American citizen was like you the world would be absolutely f'd.

    Take your head out of that work of fiction and smell the coffee. I'm quite a liberal sort who tends to adhere to the idea that everyone has a valid opinion. I draw the line at this kind of horse sh*t though. Religion and Politics shouldn't be allowed in the same universe. One deals with actuality and as such those who partake in it can be held accountable. The other leads to a situation where your actions are not your own but determined by a man in the sky. You're just as bad as the people you despise in the middle east. Take off the shackles, travel the world, meet people who think differently and open your mind to 'reality'. Sitting behind the safety blanket of the US border will destroy you from the inside.
    Well said @RC7.
  • Well, thought I'd just share this for fun:

  • St_GeorgeSt_George Shuttling Drax's lovelies to the space doughnut - happy 40th, MR!
    Posts: 1,699
    According to this extremely well respected polling strategist's blog (it seems he's basically the guy everyone across the US political spectrum trusts), Obama has a 91 percent chance of victory - securing 313 Electoral College votes - with just a few hours to go...

    http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com

    Bye bye, Mitt - don't let the door hit your arse on the way out... :p
  • Just curious- and I respect anyone's privacy if they don't want to answer: is there anyone here who voted for McCain last time but voted for Obama today?
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,687
    Just curious- and I respect anyone's privacy if they don't want to answer: is there anyone here who voted for McCain last time but voted for Obama today?
    I had nothing against McCain, but as soon as Ms. Nutcase was attached to him for VP, he lost any chance for my vote he might have had.
  • Posts: 4,762
    RC7 wrote:
    00Beast wrote:
    I have to agreeably disagree here. First off, I'll just say that I do not believe that gay people should have any rights to get married. I believe in a God who intended marriage to be between man and woman only, and I back candidates like Romney who see it that way as well. Secondly, I do sympathize for rape victims, I mean it is a terrible tragedy, but I believe that abortion is the equivalent of murder, since it is killing off God's creation in the womb.

    If every American citizen was like you the world would be absolutely f'd.

    Take your head out of that work of fiction and smell the coffee. I'm quite a liberal sort who tends to adhere to the idea that everyone has a valid opinion. I draw the line at this kind of horse sh*t though. Religion and Politics shouldn't be allowed in the same universe. One deals with actuality and as such those who partake in it can be held accountable. The other leads to a situation where your actions are not your own but determined by a man in the sky. You're just as bad as the people you despise in the middle east. Take off the shackles, travel the world, meet people who think differently and open your mind to 'reality'. Sitting behind the safety blanket of the US border will destroy you from the inside.
    Well said @RC7.

    Work of fiction? Hmmm, I don't think so. Why don't you try reading it before that conclusion is made.
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    00Beast wrote:
    RC7 wrote:
    00Beast wrote:
    I have to agreeably disagree here. First off, I'll just say that I do not believe that gay people should have any rights to get married. I believe in a God who intended marriage to be between man and woman only, and I back candidates like Romney who see it that way as well. Secondly, I do sympathize for rape victims, I mean it is a terrible tragedy, but I believe that abortion is the equivalent of murder, since it is killing off God's creation in the womb.

    If every American citizen was like you the world would be absolutely f'd.

    Take your head out of that work of fiction and smell the coffee. I'm quite a liberal sort who tends to adhere to the idea that everyone has a valid opinion. I draw the line at this kind of horse sh*t though. Religion and Politics shouldn't be allowed in the same universe. One deals with actuality and as such those who partake in it can be held accountable. The other leads to a situation where your actions are not your own but determined by a man in the sky. You're just as bad as the people you despise in the middle east. Take off the shackles, travel the world, meet people who think differently and open your mind to 'reality'. Sitting behind the safety blanket of the US border will destroy you from the inside.
    Well said @RC7.

    Work of fiction? Hmmm, I don't think so. Why don't you try reading it before that conclusion is made.

    I have read it. Now, prove to me that it's not a work of fiction.
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